Holier than thou.....

[Tunnelcat]

They don't like those dirty political tricks one little bit when it's done to them, do they? His hypocrisy is showing.

http://news.yahoo.com/sen-mitch-mcconne ... 07269.html

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[CUDA]

except for 2 things there TC.

1. EVERY politician does the same thing.
2. it appears it was recorded illegally and who ever did it committed a felony. the FBI will find out. lets see if the Democrats scream about it like they did Watergate. Hypocrisy????

[Will Robinson]

How is it it hypocrisy? Or did McConnell help Nixon bug/cover up the Watergate fiasco?
I think you are just too anxious to deflect the obvious negative light this shines on your party hacks. If it was wrong before it is still wrong now. Just because he's an R is he supposed to let it happen. Are you and all women forever beholding to all men for Eve's feeding the apple to Adam?

[Spidey]

See…this is why the left can never lose the political game…Take a victim of a crime and make them the guilty one.

Works on two fronts…makes the crime “go away” and is a convenient opening to attack the character of your opponent.

[CUDA]

she'll never see that Spidey.

[Sergeant Thorne]

What exactly IS wrong with that, in your opinion, TunnelCat? What they're talking about is what the electorate ought to know about every person asking for their vote! When you take something about someone's personality and try to make it say something about them that it doesn't, that's dirty, but everything I heard sounded fairly well-founded. It was a meeting about uncovering and compiling the reasons why a conservative voter shouldn't consider her a good candidate.

[CobGobbler]

McConnell is sure playing this up. I'd say it's 50/50 that his team put in the bugs themselves.

[Will Robinson]

McConnell is sure playing this up. I'd say it's 50/50 that his team put in the bugs themselves.

If it wasn't McConnell, and in fact was a democrat operative, do you have a problem with it being done?

[CUDA]

A Kentucky Democratic operative says two leaders with Progress Kentucky, a liberal group, are the ones who secretly recorded a strategy session that Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell held with his aides.

OK TC defend their actions

[Tunnelcat]

All politicians are dirty. I'm not blind. McConnell's mock indignation is absolutely laughable. His team was responsible for Watergate, which was illegal by the way. The liberals got in a score this time. He needs to get off of his haughty high horse and realize that the game is played dirty and if one side is going to play dirty, expect the other side's going to do the same. If fact, if politicians want to play nasty, they'd better assume that in this day and age, there is going to be someone, somewhere, with an agenda, that's going to record the everything they say. Romney really learned that lesson.

Spidey, McConnell's not a victim. He's an ass. He was recorded planning a personal character attack on a potential opponent. I don't feel sorry for him one teensy bit.

I'm not going to defend what they did CUDA. I'm just glad some libs finally got some bawls this time. Turn about fair play.
As for an illegal recording, perhaps not.

http://news.yahoo.com/supreme-court-dec ... 23559.html

[woodchip]

Spidey, McConnell's not a victim. He's an ass. He was recorded planning a personal character attack on a potential opponent. I don't feel sorry for him one teensy bit.

You mean like the Dems did to Herman Cain?

[CUDA]

And Dr Carson? But guess its ok because we can't have those upity blacks leaving the plantation now can we. Its ok to attack them as long as it gets them back in line and back on the plantation

[Will Robinson]

TC you are pathetically partisan!

Using your logic, if you were to apply it consistently, you would have to admit you are a member of the Democrat Racist Party of America!


Richard Russell (D-GA), one of 18 Democrat Senators, launched a filibuster to prevent passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
Said Russell: "We will resist to the bitter end any measure or any movement which would have a tendency to bring about social equality and intermingling and amalgamation of the races in our (Southern) states."

Robert Byrd Democrat Senator and Grand Kleagel of the Ku Klux Klan, wrote letters to national Klan leaders begging them to come to his states aid to help 'keep the niggers from voting'!
He supposedly had quit the Klan before writing those letters...
And then defended them in his Senate campaign a few years after that!

Harry Truman Democrat President was a Klan member as well!

Strom Thurmond was a Democrat when he opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act

Hugo Black, Democrat Associate Justice US Supreme Court....Klan member...

So, is your party the racist party or would you like to display your spin moves to explain?

You are willing to excuse and rationalize any behavior to spare your party from criticism. It is truly laughable.

[callmeslick]

Spidey, McConnell's not a victim. He's an ass. He was recorded planning a personal character attack on a potential opponent. I don't feel sorry for him one teensy bit.

You mean like the Dems did to Herman Cain?

hilarious. Cain clearly was the victim of the Republican establishment. The Dems had ZERO to do with it. Feel free to PROVE otherwise.

[CUDA]

hilarious. Cain clearly was the victim of the Republican establishment. The Dems had ZERO to do with it. Feel free to PROVE otherwise.

how about you prove your statement first.
.

[callmeslick]

I'd sort of be able to, CUDA, but it wasn't me making the assertion about the Dems, so I'll defer out of both politeness and the order received.......


by the way, should any be wondering, I didn't disappear for any reason related to this board.....the grandkids and daughter are in town, and I'm onto my 'bucket list' of items to do before starting the consulting gig on May 1. Frankly, jawboning here doesn't make a high level upon that list. Enjoyed seeing a thread locked without any posts of mine leading up to it.

[callmeslick]

for CUDA:
I'll take Herm's word for it all......http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/ ... story.html

[Spidey]

Cain took the normal amount of crap from both sides as he became the front runner in the primaries, but I think the “Uncle Tom” crap was way over the top.

[Tunnelcat]

Will, Woodchip and CUDA, you missed that part of my post where I said "ALL POLITICIANS ARE DIRTY". They LIKE to play dirty too. Since I'm more "liberal", I do happen to get a little schadenfreude when the Dems manage pull off a dirty trick. I don't approve of the game, but I still have a competitive streak in me.

McConnell and his party are just as much of a part of the nastiness as the Dems, so he needs to quit whining because HE got caught spouting nastiness. Poor baby. Too bad his opponent bowed out LONG BEFORE he could fire off his best laid plans. All that bad press for nothin'.

Spidey, I agree that the "Uncle Tom" stuff against Cain was pretty nasty and a hit below the belt. Didn't Condoleeza Rice also get a dose of that from Black liberals?

[woodchip]

Spidey, I agree that the "Uncle Tom" stuff against Cain was pretty nasty and a hit below the belt. Didn't Condoleeza Rice also get a dose of that from Black liberals?

I think you'll find all conservative blacks get that nasty racist crap from the liberal dems.

[Tunnelcat]

Spidey, I agree that the "Uncle Tom" stuff against Cain was pretty nasty and a hit below the belt. Didn't Condoleeza Rice also get a dose of that from Black liberals?

I think you'll find all conservative blacks get that nasty racist crap from the liberal dems.

About as hard as the Republicans have corralling their tea party wingnuts.

[woodchip]

I'd say the Dems had a much harder time with the OWS crowd or even scarier, they condoned OWS's actions.

[Will Robinson]

Will, Woodchip and CUDA, you missed that part of my post where I said "ALL POLITICIANS ARE DIRTY". ...

No, we didn't miss that.
You always use that same deflection that you just used there...the " I know all politicians do x,y and z" when we call you out for selectively applying your standards to attack anything that quacks republican. What is missing is you holding your party to those standards in the first place without being called out on it first....instead of claiming to have that position after the fact, failing to ever voluntarily express it.

The word disingenuous comes to mind.

[Tunnelcat]

I'd say the Dems had a much harder time with the OWS crowd or even scarier, they condoned OWS's actions.

Well, you know you can't herd hippies don't you?

The Republicans are condoning the tea party because if they alienate them, they risk losing what gains they won in 2010.

No, we didn't miss that.
You always use that same deflection that you just used there...the " I know all politicians do x,y and z" when we call you out for selectively applying your standards to attack anything that quacks republican. What is missing is you holding your party to those standards in the first place without being called out on it first....instead of claiming to have that position after the fact, failing to ever voluntarily express it.

Give it a break. I know the Dems are just as crooked as the Republicans. I'm not even a registered Democrat either. I just know that Democratic principles, if they ever follow them like they're supposed to, are closer to what I believe in than Republican ones. But I'm not locked into the Democratic Party. Someone comes along with a better idea to break the corporate/government status quo, I'll support them. So far, on the Republican and Libertarian side, too wingnut for me. It's just the same for extreme liberals, I avoid their causes like the plague. But since you're so far to the right I look like a commie, there's no convincing you.

[woodchip]

McConnell is sure playing this up. I'd say it's 50/50 that his team put in the bugs themselves.

Wrong Cob, cats out of the bag. Seems a liberal super pac was behind it:

"Troubles continue for a liberal super PAC in Kentucky that formed four months ago with a goal of unseating Republican Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell."

"First, in February, the group apologized for tweets made about McConnell's wife, former Labor Secretary Elaine Chao, who was born in Taiwan. They claimed McConnell's views on outsourcing were tied to her ethnicity."

"Most recently, two people affiliated with the super PAC are being blamed for a secret recording of a McConnell campaign strategy meeting, which federal authorities are investigating. "

[Tunnelcat]

So? All's fair in love and war.

[CobGobbler]

Well then those people were just dumb. I'm not quite sure what the people that did this expected, it was a closed doors meeting--they were bound to find the bugs and start an investigation!! This is definitely one of the dumber things I've heard in awhile, the Dems have (had) a great chance to knock out McConnell and they may have got a little too zealous. Idiots.

[MD-1118]

I'd say the Dems had a much harder time with the OWS crowd or even scarier, they condoned OWS's actions.

Well, you know you can't herd hippies don't you?

The Republicans are condoning the tea party because if they alienate them, they risk losing what gains they won in 2010.

No, we didn't miss that.
You always use that same deflection that you just used there...the " I know all politicians do x,y and z" when we call you out for selectively applying your standards to attack anything that quacks republican. What is missing is you holding your party to those standards in the first place without being called out on it first....instead of claiming to have that position after the fact, failing to ever voluntarily express it.

Give it a break. I know the Dems are just as crooked as the Republicans. I'm not even a registered Democrat either. I just know that Democratic principles, if they ever follow them like they're supposed to, are closer to what I believe in than Republican ones. But I'm not locked into the Democratic Party. Someone comes along with a better idea to break the corporate/government status quo, I'll support them. So far, on the Republican and Libertarian side, too wingnut for me. It's just the same for extreme liberals, I avoid their causes like the plague. But since you're so far to the right I look like a commie, there's no convincing you.

Libertarians are too wingnut for you? :c

[Tunnelcat]

Edit:

Tea partiers are too wingnut for me, especially the ones that masquerade as Libertarians or Republicans!

[MD-1118]

Definitely!

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