These probably would have been Obama voters...

[Top Gun]

No, I don't see it that way, but I have dealt with a great deal of religious types throughout my life. They are some of the most easily led and indoctrinated while at the very same time unyielding and opinionated. Not very diplomatic people, more the my way or the highway types. As far as Obama, I don't believe him to be the great transgressor a lot of people make him out to be. Take the Obama movie for instance. I watched it well after most people I know did, but we definitely came away with 2 different impressions. I heard a lot of stuff from people who actually watched the movie, that I did not see at all. Romney will probably win this next go around anyways, as you can almost be sure he will run this next election. I'd still rather a lame duck than a golden goose anyday

I don't think there's any way in hell that Romney will run next time around. Even if he personally desired to run, which I doubt given how this election turned out for him, the Republican Party will certainly be pushing for a much more charismatic and marketable candidate.

[flip]

I see that differently too. The margin was fairly close and a lot of people feel he is more familiar to them now than the first go around. Let Obama become lamer and lamer and more ineffective as time goes by and the guy is almost a shoe-in. I guess it will all depend on how many public appearances we see Romney participating in the next year or two.

[Ferno]

I still want an answer as to what the topic has to do with obama.

Because right wingers think that stupid, young people are the ones who voted for Obama, (emphasis on the stupid part), and that all right wingers are always smarter, older and wiser than that and tend to vote for much better candidates, like um.... "cough".... Nixon and Dubya.

While I agree in part with this, I was targeting my question at the right-wingers. So far, none have answered. That leads me to believe they were pulling that supposition out of their ass, as usual. ;P

[Spidey]

Nobody here but us centrists!

[Ferno]

Centrists? really?

THAT'S comedy gold right there.

The mere mention of Obama sends the the most active people into apeshit mode, talking about how bad he is. all. the. time.

This is the only board that I visit that does this. Anywhere else and it's rational, sane people holding a mature discussion. Here? whacko central.

Spidey, you're about one of the calmest people here. But I wouldn't really consider you a centrist.

[Spidey]

That’s fine, because I consider myself right wing, but I still fit the definition of centrist…

centrist…

2: a person who holds moderate views (1 is a noun)

So if someone here thinks I don’t fit the definition, prove it by naming some of my extreme political beliefs.

I’m willing to bet, I hold more compromise positions than just about everyone here.

You have to remember as I tried to explain before…the center extends outward from exact center in both directions, to a great degree, some might even say, if you don’t fall into the outer 15% on either side…you are in the middle.

The “center” isn’t some theoretical hairline exactly down the middle…it’s actually pretty wide.

[MD-1118]

Centrists? really?

THAT'S comedy gold right there.

The mere mention of Obama sends the the most active people into **** mode, talking about how bad he is. all. the. time.

This is the only board that I visit that does this. Anywhere else and it's rational, sane people holding a mature discussion. Here? whacko central.

Agreed. There is a lot (and I mean a lot) of extremism here. More than I see anywhere else, and I see a lot of extremism.

Spidey, you're about one of the calmest people here. But I wouldn't really consider you a centrist.

That’s fine, because I consider myself right wing, but I still fit the definition of centrist…

centrist…

2: a person who holds moderate views (1 is a noun)

So if someone here thinks I don’t fit the definition, prove it by naming some of my extreme political beliefs.

I’m willing to bet, I hold more compromise positions than just about everyone here.

You have to remember as I tried to explain before…the center extends outward from exact center in both directions, to a great degree, some might even say, if you don’t fall into the outer 15% on either side…you are in the middle.

The “center” isn’t some theoretical hairline exactly down the middle…it’s actually pretty wide.

Agreed again. I think I'm probably about on a par. Dunno what I consider myself, though. I don't like boxes much.

As for the article... well. Some things just make me ill.

[woodchip]

I still want an answer as to what the topic has to do with obama.

Because right wingers think that stupid, young people are the ones who voted for Obama, (emphasis on the stupid part), and that all right wingers are always smarter, older and wiser than that and tend to vote for much better candidates, like um.... "cough".... Nixon and Dubya.

While I agree in part with this, I was targeting my question at the right-wingers. So far, none have answered. That leads me to believe they were pulling that supposition out of their ass, as usual. ;P

You were answered but failed to comprehend.

[Ferno]

That’s fine, because I consider myself right wing, but I still fit the definition of centrist…

centrist…

2: a person who holds moderate views (1 is a noun)

So if someone here thinks I don’t fit the definition, prove it by naming some of my extreme political beliefs.

I’m willing to bet, I hold more compromise positions than just about everyone here.

You have to remember as I tried to explain before…the center extends outward from exact center in both directions, to a great degree, some might even say, if you don’t fall into the outer 15% on either side…you are in the middle.

The “center” isn’t some theoretical hairline exactly down the middle…it’s actually pretty wide.

I know what a centrist is. I don't need a dictionary reference.

You were answered but failed to comprehend.

Yeah it's somehow my fault for not accepting an idiotic answer. It's always that way with you. If someone disagrees with you, they're either an idiot or they don't understand. Nice try.

[Spidey]

Fine…so if I’m not a centrist…what exactly disqualifies me?

[CUDA]

The fact that you don't agree with liberal's make you not a centrist. You just need to look at some of the members of this forum who are CLEARLY hard left and yet proclaim to be centrists

[Krom]

Everything looks hard left when you are falling off the right side of the universe like most of this forum.

[CUDA]

Everything looks hard left when you are falling off the right side of the universe like most of this forum.

Maybe since its "most of this forum" they are the centrists and everyone else is to the left

[Spidey]

I’d like to hear some examples of “extreme” because I think people here are confusing a dislike of Obama, with some kind of fanaticism.

Mr. center of the road himself has some “extreme” views in my opinion…such as confiscating…errr taxing the rich at an unrealistic level, not designed for fairness in my opinion, but to simply restrict the wealth someone has…that’s the kind of thing I call extreme. (but, he gets to be a centrist)

So lets here some of the “extreme” views people have here…heh, I doubt most of you even know the views of someone like Woody…the most likely suspect, I would guess.

My opinion of guys like Woody is…hard core, not extreme. But I would love to hear just how “extreme” people’s views really are. (political only…yea I know there plenty of extreme religious views here)

If you can’t think of some examples, you might want to rethink your position.

[MD-1118]

(political only…yea I know there plenty of extreme religious views here)

Fair enough. Political views here are argued rather vehemently, but that's religious extremism in action. The political views themselves are actually somewhat centrist, according to your own definition of the central 70%.

Even some of my own threads are pretty extreme in their own right, I think. You have to be passionate about your beliefs, otherwise why stick with them? And if you're not going to stick with something, why bother doing it in the first place. "Waste not, want not."

My opinion of guys like Woody is…hard core, not extreme

Spoken like a true centrist.

[Ferno]

Spidey: there are two things that seem to disqualify you from a true centrist. you hold similar viewpoints as CUDA and woodchip, and you referred to the states as 'socialist states of america' when it came to CPS.

[CUDA]

So you're disqualifying us based on your own standards. That would seem to be a self disqualification on your part

[Spidey]

Spidey: there are two things that seem to disqualify you from a true centrist. you hold similar viewpoints as CUDA and woodchip, and you referred to the states as 'socialist states of america' when it came to CPS.

I’m pretty sure that was Woodchip.

I spend the majority of my time on this board picking apart technical issues, and such…in fact, I rarely if ever disclose my actual political or religious views for that matter.

So pick any three on them and tell me what my actual position on them is…

Good Luck.

[Ferno]

Spidey: there are two things that seem to disqualify you from a true centrist. you hold similar viewpoints as CUDA and woodchip, and you referred to the states as 'socialist states of america' when it came to CPS.

I’m pretty sure that was Woodchip.

I spend the majority of my time on this board picking apart technical issues, and such…in fact, I rarely if ever disclose my actual political or religious views for that matter.

So pick any three on them and tell me what my actual position on them is…

Good Luck.

Search is such a wonderful tool.

[woodchip]

You were answered but failed to comprehend.

Yeah it's somehow my fault for not accepting an idiotic answer. It's always that way with you. If someone disagrees with you, they're either an idiot or they don't understand. Nice try.

No one called you a idiot...just you don't comprehend. Stop being so sensitive.

[Ferno]

"idiotic answer" <> "idiot".

I think you've lost the comprehension card, woody.

As for the other part, you should look through your own posts, where you're dismissive of others for disagreeing with you.