"The Wheel of Time" by Robert Jordan

Stupid · Post by **Stupid** » Fri May 28, 2004 9:48 pm

For those of you few fans of the WoT, here is some news that I find surprising.... I guess they want to try to rake in some of the movie LotR has made....

http://www.tor.com/jordan/media.html

Also, for those of you that didn't know (like myself) the short story "New Spring" has been expanded into a novel in which the short story part is the end of the novel (there's 25 chapters before the original short story starts).

Dedman · Post by **Dedman** » Sat May 29, 2004 6:18 am

I love that series. The only problem I have with it is it is going on too long there is no end in site with the story.

Top Gun · Post by **Top Gun** » Sat May 29, 2004 9:11 am

I read the first two books in the series, and while they weren't bad, I can say they definitely weren't a favorite. Some parts just seemed to drag on too long, with no clear end in sight. And from what Dedman has said, the rest of the series seems to continue in the same way. I'll keep reading the books, though, just to find out what happens.

whuppinboy · Post by **whuppinboy** » Sat May 29, 2004 6:47 pm

blah, leave it alone i say. wait 50 years and then do the movie, such blatent capitialism sickens me.

Stupid · Post by **Stupid** » Sat May 29, 2004 7:00 pm

Search through that site, Dedman, and you'll find that there's a recent (January 6, 2004) online forum interview with Robert Jordan, and he INSISTS that there will only be 2 more normal books, and also 2 more prequel books similar to New Spring: The Novel. Also, for you WoT Elitists, on the site they have a "question a week that Jordan will answer" section, and one of the questions is whether or not Demandred has ever posed as Mazrim Taim, and he flat-out said NO!!! So that kills all theories about Demandred being Mazrim Taim

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MehYam · Post by **MehYam** » Sun May 30, 2004 2:22 pm

I wouldn't take that press release as gospel that movies/series will be made. I kinda hope they won't be... with anything less than the effort put into the LoTR movies, they would just fall short of the books.

Just started book six (Chaos), BTW. Book five (Fires) was the best yet. I dunno why, but I found that the series didn't get really good until the fourth.

Phoenix Red · Post by **Phoenix Red** » Sun May 30, 2004 5:33 pm

sorry Tolkien worshippers but not even LotR had the vsat, far-reaching complexity the Wheel of Time books sport, in the sense of the cause-and-effect ripple Jordan is so fond of. Combine that with the fact most WoT entries are nearly the size of the entire LotR trilogy, and you realize that not even a 4 hour movie could encompass a single volume.

Wolf on Air · Post by **Wolf on Air** » Sun May 30, 2004 6:07 pm

I really like WoT up until about book 7 or so. From there on, it's gone downwards IMO, if not in the least because it's so damn slow going after that. Seriously, Winter's Heart and Crossroads of Twilight could easily have been compressed into about half a book, if not in the least because about 3/4 of CoT consists of Perrin blindly searching for his [very annoying] wife, while being totally out-of-character to boot.

Also, Moraine and Lanfear, the only remotely interesting female characters (the other ones are more or less personality clones of each other) were BOTH written out at the same time, further dulling the last three books. Given the nonprogress of the Rebel Aes Sedai army in the last two books, I'm supposing the time factor in them is about an eigth of that of the early ones...

Eye of the World was great, and actually worked well on its own, but as for the last ones - I really, honestly don't care what color of nail polish Egwene is wearing this morning. Truly, I don't.

(for the record, I read book 1 to 8 in the course of three weeks, give or take a day... yes, I am insane

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Top Gun · Post by **Top Gun** » Sun May 30, 2004 10:38 pm

PR, I'm not going to turn this into another Tolkien support post (see many of my others in the ID4 thread

), but what I will say is, no matter how good Robert Jordan's books get, he cannot and will not surpass the true creator and greatest writer of the epic fantasy. Every fantasy writer since Tolkien has owed an enormous debt to him, and I saw many Tolkien-influenced features in the first two books of the series. I'm with Wolf on Air in that the books seem to drag on far too much at times; for example, in the first book, do we really have to know every detail about the characters' separate one-month treks halfway across the world? I felt like yelling, "Get on with it!" I'm usually a very patient reader, but there was something about this book that felt too drawn-out. That's something that no one could accuse Tolkien of.

There, I've vented; I won't clog this thread up with my fanboy posts any longer

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Darktalyn1 · Post by **Darktalyn1** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 10:02 am

I spend a lot of time working on the computer and like to listen to audio books while I work.

Is there any way I can get unabridged audio books of these novels? I would like to listen to them and if they are long, that's even better. I am in serious need of a few hundred hours of good Audio books.

Free MP3's would be preferable but I would probably shell out the cash for CD's if I had to...

Let me know!

Stupid · Post by **Stupid** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 8:28 pm

Maybe Amazon? Ebay? OR you could check that site and see if they've got anything about selling the audiobooks on CD. It would be real hard to find the MP3s, I guess. I don't know of any WoT-specific chatwhore groups that you could visit and ask if they have them a-la-Krom-style. But those books WOULD be long unabridged.... However... the way these books go into EVERY detail of a person/scene (one of the pros/cons of the series, depending on your view of literature), you may end up falling asleep as the guy reads the details.

JazzyJet · Post by **JazzyJet** » Wed Jun 02, 2004 5:03 pm

Wow right on. Amazingly awesome books. I'd be first in line to see the movie.

Neo · Post by **Neo** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 9:12 am

sucks