Comprehensive Bug List

MD-2389 · Post by **MD-2389** » Tue Oct 16, 2001 11:53 pm

Or simply not read the player file if its not a valid name.

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sw Max_T · Post by **sw Max_T** » Mon Oct 22, 2001 7:03 pm

Just read on PD news from DCrazy about 1.5
So how soon is soon?

And all of the bugs having "not fixed" or having no comments will not b fixed at all?

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lars · Post by **lars** » Tue Oct 23, 2001 2:39 am

If it is finished now, then it will be around 3-4 weeks before we see it. They have to make the international versions of the patch and last time that took about 3 weeks.

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Nightshade · Post by **Nightshade** » Wed Oct 24, 2001 10:55 pm

Quoting Tetrad recently on the mouse/firebutton bug relating to framerate:

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Problems I've noticed: Sometimes on the mouse, it would seem that the buttons are not being registered as being held down. I think it's when the framerate is higher than the sampling rate for the mouse, but I'm not sure. (I'm a joystick person first, so these mouse issues are new to me.) For example, if I had the fusion and was holding down the mouse to charge, more often than not it would just fire blob after blob without charging if my framerate was high. Similiarily it would work as normal when it wasn't (although the framerate counter isn't very accurate, so like I said, I can't be certain). I'm using a USB mouse if that makes any difference. It works fine in everything else.
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This is a persistant problem...and one that needs to be addressed...

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Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Thu Oct 25, 2001 1:56 pm

I tested the mouse problem the other day and it's definitely a problem. Even Jason Feyers said he experienced it. He also might have a work around for it other than capping your framerate. Unfortunately, I don't think this will be fixed in 1.5. You can always cap your framerate though.

The bugs marked as FIXED are fixed. Stuff marked as NOT FIXED means they're not fixed. That doesn't mean they won't be fixed in future versions of 1.5, but we're getting close to the end so the probability that any of the NOT FIXED bugs will get fixed is pretty low. As for other bugs, which aren't marked as either, I can't tell if they're fixed or not because either I don't have a way to test them (checksum bug), or I don't want to test them (all the singleplayer bugs). The checksum bug, if it isn't fixed already, it probably will be in the final version of 1.5. 1.5 is being created to deal with this, and other cross-platform compatibility problems. We have yet to test 1.5 cross-platform.

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Daguer · Post by **Daguer** » Thu Oct 25, 2001 11:28 pm

hey suncho, you can test the BP engine glow bug, just tape "byebyemonkey2 and go to a dark corner

DCrazy · Post by **DCrazy** » Fri Oct 26, 2001 10:25 am

Common sense prevails, Daguer!

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Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Tue Nov 06, 2001 11:02 am

Daguer, I'd do that if I had merc. =)

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Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Tue Nov 06, 2001 11:02 am

Daguer, I'd do that if I had merc. =)

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[MS]Testiculese · Post by **[MS]Testiculese** » Tue Nov 06, 2001 12:32 pm

6. Name: Tablefile Hack FIXED

Has it been tested by recompiling the hacked table file back into the hog?

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Pugwash · Post by **Pugwash** » Sat Nov 10, 2001 5:13 pm

just saw D3 running on a PC (Im on a MAC). plasma comes out of the pyro much faster on the PC than it does on my or any of my MAC friends machines. no it wasnt a BP it was a regular pyro. any ideas, can someone else verify this, Scrub0 maybe?

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Pugwash · Post by **Pugwash** » Sat Nov 10, 2001 5:18 pm

if you need any help testing the MAC side or platform compatability lemme know.

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Top Wop · Post by **Top Wop** » Thu Nov 15, 2001 1:41 pm

I have a problem with my All-In-Wonder PRO. No matter what I do ( and I forgot when this happened, it happened for a while now scince the release of 1.4) the levil seems incredibly dark! No, its not the contrast adjustment, it also seems to be missing some colors. Its quite dark in there. it appears to be missing some lighting. This had never happened to me before 1.4. And yes, im not stupid, I did try different drivers and nothing solves the problem. It also happens in OPEN GL. ALso with this missing lighting, It is also MUCH MORE SLOWER! Very strange, I hope 1.5 can fix it.

Plus, I think my card supports reflections (or mayby not), because reflected surfaces does not work for me. Now this is for all versions of the game. Yet this is not as big of a deal as the one above. Too dark and quite slow with some missing colors and lighting. Want me 2 post screenshots to see what I mean?

Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Thu Nov 15, 2001 3:01 pm

Top Wop: Screenshots would be good. Thanks. =)

Pugwash: Graphsim hasn't finished their version for testing yet, but when they do, I'll keep you in mind & we'll definitely check out the plasma thing.

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Top Wop · Post by **Top Wop** » Fri Nov 16, 2001 3:33 pm

"Top Wop: Screenshots would be good. Thanks. =)"

Oh i will, as soon as I find my CD.

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Top Wop · Post by **Top Wop** » Fri Nov 16, 2001 3:34 pm

"Top Wop: Screenshots would be good. Thanks. =)"

Oh i will, as soon as I find my CD.

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Jeff250 · Post by **Jeff250** » Thu Nov 22, 2001 8:15 pm

I'm not sure if this has been posted yet, but force feedback goes off when viewing a demo. This bug should be fairly reproducable, unless it is a problem locally.

Jeff250 · Post by **Jeff250** » Fri Nov 23, 2001 3:15 am

I was rereading my post, and it may have been unclear. Force feedback is active i.e. vibrating and what not for me when viewing demos. I'm not sure if this is a problem locally or a bug in the game however.

Top Wop · Post by **Top Wop** » Sat Nov 24, 2001 5:17 pm

This is what I tried to send to d3bugs@outrage.com but I got a message back saying that the e-mail does not exist. Ill try another one. In fact, the whole d3 site is down, wtf is that!?

November 24, 2001

Dear Tech:

I have a problem with my All-In-Wonder PRO. No matter what I do ( and I forgot when this happened, it happened for a while now scince the release of 1.4) the levil seems incredibly dark! No, its not the contrast adjustment, it also seems to be missing some colors. Its quite dark in there. it appears to be missing some lighting. This had never happened to me before 1.4. And yes, im not stupid, I did try different drivers and nothing solves the problem. It does not work on ALL the drivers. It also happens in OPEN GL. ALso with this missing lighting, It is also very slow. Very strange, I hope 1.5 can fix it. Im a very technical person and I have tried everything but it does not work for me!

Plus, reflected surfaces does not work for me. Now this is for all versions of the game. Does'nt matter what drivers I use, the surfaces do not reflect. Below are some screenshots in a zip from Core where it is easily evident:

http://www.geocities.com/descentfilez/S ... _of_14.zip

I hope you can fix this in 1.5. Thanks!

Alex K.

DCrazy · Post by **DCrazy** » Sat Nov 24, 2001 6:06 pm

The ZIP file doesn't exist.

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Blin · Post by **Blin** » Sat Nov 24, 2001 6:16 pm

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Top Wop · Post by **Top Wop** » Mon Nov 26, 2001 3:27 pm

Oh yes it does! Right click and hit save or use a downloader. Hell, it even works on a MAC!

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Top Wop · Post by **Top Wop** » Mon Nov 26, 2001 3:28 pm

By the way, none of Outrage's e-mail addresses works. Can anyone give me a few to send who are working on 1.5!?

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DCrazy · Post by **DCrazy** » Mon Nov 26, 2001 3:30 pm

www.descent3.com
www.outrage.com
www.rubutribe.com

They're all down at the moment.

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Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Sun Dec 02, 2001 9:53 pm

Thanks Roncli, I added it. Top Wop I'll check out those screenshots.

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Top Wop · Post by **Top Wop** » Tue Dec 04, 2001 3:18 pm

Thanks Suncho. E-mail me if you need anything else, I'd really like to have this fixed.

Top Wop · Post by **Top Wop** » Tue Dec 04, 2001 3:18 pm

Thanks Suncho. E-mail me if you need anything else, I'd really like to have this fixed.

pATChes11 · Post by **pATChes11** » Wed Dec 05, 2001 1:00 am

New wish on my wishlist, now that I think about it: Polynomial-mapped joystick input option. I hate it when I move my stick the slightest bit and my ship moves 10+ degrees... a polynomial mapping equation would help this a lot. Please, please, someone spend the 10 minutes it would require to implement this!!

Just make it run on a float scale from -1 to 1, and use the equation (x*x)*(x/abs(x)). Cake.

And, like I said, make it an option, so that those that don't like it don't have to use it. PPLLEEEAAASSSSEE!!!!!!!

ooh, I've seen this one before... On bug 65, Bash said "or perhaps jut some strange link between the mouse, fps and sound API." It's actually that D3 for some reason doesn't poll the mouse (and keys emulated by joystick software as well, interestingly enough) correctly, and at high framerates, it thinks it was turned off, and the next frame, it's on again, playing another sound that lasts a few hundred frames. That's your sound overload. If you try to zoom with the MD while this is occuring, you will not be able to, proving my point.

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Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Thu Dec 06, 2001 7:44 pm

patches, that's why people use CTFJ V320. Go to http://www.stickworks.com and download it.

Are bugs #65, #105, and #125 all because of the same thing then?
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pATChes11 · Post by **pATChes11** » Thu Dec 06, 2001 10:58 pm

Bugs 65 and 125 are because of that, yes, but 105 is not. That's a bug in the netcode or something, because your energy is client controlled, and the shields are not. I hate it when I waste half my energy (high FPS does that to the converter too, just like evrything else) on that converter and I get nothing out of it. I think it works in P2P, however.

And thanks for the Stickworks link

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pATChes11 · Post by **pATChes11** » Thu Dec 06, 2001 11:00 pm

"CTFJV320.ZIP contains version 3.20 of the CTFJ Joystick Utility for W95 and W98." What was that? Oh, I'm sorry... I do believe that I am using Win2000... :flamepissed:

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Mr. Perfect · Post by **Mr. Perfect** » Fri Dec 07, 2001 2:59 am

Oh. I didn't realize you were sending single palyer bugs to my thread, I better get it back up.

Hmm, some of my list is in here though...

Er, anyhow. #17 should be fixed in 1.5 because all players will have the black pyro, right? Or does it involve modded entries for other mercenary objects too?

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Testiculese · Post by **Testiculese** » Fri Dec 07, 2001 4:20 pm

I still havn't any reply as to whether you can compile a hacked gam file back into the 1.5 HOG or not.

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Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Fri Dec 07, 2001 9:18 pm

Testi, I believe you can, but it won't let you join the game.

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Wolf on Air · Post by **Wolf on Air** » Sat Dec 08, 2001 9:33 am

Just out of curiousity, I'll have a shot at testing just how secure that protection is, once the patch is out.

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pATChes11 · Post by **pATChes11** » Sat Dec 08, 2001 4:10 pm

I thought you would have said something about CTFJ by now...

It turns out that it works under Win2000 after all! I tried it, played with the gain settings a little bit, and kicked some ass with my new Mass

Well, okay, I'm not that good, but I'm a LOT better than I was before. My overall efficiency in most decent client/server games has jumped like 20% or more...

Thanks Suncho

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Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Sat Dec 08, 2001 4:28 pm

Bugs 65 and 125 are because of that, yes, but 105 is not.

Oops, I meant 122, not 105

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Testiculese · Post by **Testiculese** » Sat Dec 08, 2001 9:38 pm

ok, ok, good, just wanted to make sure someone checked into that before it was released..imagine if that was overlooked.

Lastly, 1.5 won't even bother analysing a gam if you run a SP game? I like my GL Tri-Vauss!

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Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Sun Dec 09, 2001 1:20 am

Right testi, and if you're the server you can still run a modded game or level or whatever. Pacbox worked like a charm. And since they fixed the BP tablefile bug, Jason made the BP into a matching Pacman like the GL and it worked!

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