The Muslim Brotherhood and its supporters have began forcing the roughly 15,000 Christian Copts of Dalga village in Egypt to pay a jizya tax as indicated in Koran 9:29, author and translator Raymond Ibrahim reported on Sunday.
Jizya is the money, or tribute, “that conquered non-Muslims historically had to pay to their Islamic overlords ‘with willing submission and while feeling themselves subdued’ to safeguard their existence,” Mr. Ibrahim explained.
According to Fr. Yunis Shawqi, who spoke yesterday to Dostor reporters in Dalga, all Copts in the village, “without exception,” are being forced to pay the tax.
“[The] value of the tribute and method of payment differ from one place to another in the village, so that, some are being expected to pay 200 Egyptian pounds per day, others 500 Egyptian pounds per day,” Mr. Shawqi said, according to the translator.
In some cases, families not able to pay have been attacked. As many as 40 Christian families have now fled Dalga, Mr. Ibrahim reported.
The taxes are not unique to Egypt either.
Just over the weekend Syrian rebels went into a Christian man’s “shop and gave him three options: become Muslim; pay $70,000 as a tax levied on non-Muslims, known as jizya; or be killed along with his family,” Christian Science Monitor reported.
Hmmm, so you're sayin' we SHOULD go to war in the Middle East to stop the Muslims from killing all the Christians? Either we go to war over there, or we don't. MAKE UP YOUR MIND TB!
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tunnelcat wrote:Hmmm, so you're sayin' we SHOULD go to war in the Middle East to stop the Muslims from killing all the Christians? Either we go to war over there, or we don't. MAKE UP YOUR MIND TB!
I wonder what our response would be if christians were killing all the muslims ?
tunnelcat wrote:Hmmm, so you're sayin' we SHOULD go to war in the Middle East to stop the Muslims from killing all the Christians? Either we go to war over there, or we don't. MAKE UP YOUR MIND TB!
I wonder what our response would be if christians were killing all the muslims ?
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tunnelcat wrote:Hmmm, so you're sayin' we SHOULD go to war in the Middle East to stop the Muslims from killing all the Christians? Either we go to war over there, or we don't. MAKE UP YOUR MIND TB!
I wonder what our response would be if christians were killing all the muslims ?
The same. Religion is being used as nothing but an excuse to go to war over differing ideologies. What would YOUR response be? I'm pretty sure you're FOR going to war to stop Muslims from killing Christians. But would you be so willing if it were the other way around? Me, I'm a little ambivalent, unless it directly affects me. Now if some religion or nation started going around raping and killing all women because they thought it's a right of male privilege, I'd pick up a gun myself and personally join the fight, with extreme prejudice.
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Put it this way Heretic, if that nonsense were to become law here in the U.S., I'd start my own guerrilla war and I'd take no prisoners. That's why I don't live in a Muslim country.
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tunnelcat wrote:Hmmm, so you're sayin' we SHOULD go to war in the Middle East to stop the Muslims from killing all the Christians? Either we go to war over there, or we don't. MAKE UP YOUR MIND TB!
I wonder what our response would be if christians were killing all the muslims ?
The same. Religion is being used as nothing but an excuse to go to war over differing ideologies. What would YOUR response be? I'm pretty sure you're FOR going to war to stop Muslims from killing Christians. But would you be so willing if it were the other way around? Me, I'm a little ambivalent, unless it directly affects me. Now if some religion or nation started going around raping and killing all women because they thought it's a right of male privilege, I'd pick up a gun myself and personally join the fight, with extreme prejudice.
But you don't mind female genital mutilation as a male privilege? So when are you getting a gun and signing up?
woodchip wrote:But you don't mind female genital mutilation as a male privilege? So when are you getting a gun and signing up?
What??????? What does that have to do with anything. I'm against all forms of circumcision for any reason, both male and female. Besides, I do own a gun. I'm even thinking of getting a license to carry so I can have it with me when I have to travel alone.
TB, you don't have to convince me about the morality, or immorality, of Islam. You're talking to the choir here. I can't help it if some Muslim women are brainwashed idiots.
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