Botched updates AGAIN!

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:53 am

Watch out gamers and server admins, Microsoft blew it with 6 of their most recent updates. Glad I waited and saw that one of the updates was not checked and I researched the reason as to why. It still ain't fixed as of today, even though KB2859537, a Kernel patch, is still being offered via Windows Update until they find a fix. How nice of them.

The other 5 have been pulled.

http://www.infoworld.com/t/microsoft-wi ... ate-224988

Sirius · Post by **Sirius** » Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:20 pm

Wow. Testers out on vacati --

oh wait, it's summer. I hope that's not the reason

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:55 pm

I think the adult coders in the room were out on vacation and the interns tried to do the job.

ThugsRook · Post by **ThugsRook** » Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:29 pm

never update.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:11 pm

Never let Microsoft do it for you, automatically.

Spidey · Post by **Spidey** » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:55 pm

We are the testers.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Sat Aug 17, 2013 3:10 pm

I thought all these updates got rolled out to businesses first? That makes them the first line beta testers. Technically, we're the second line beta testers.

Sirius · Post by **Sirius** » Sat Aug 17, 2013 6:27 pm

Hmm... those are usually hotfixes for specific non-security bugs. The main thing businesses do get first is new releases of products, such as Windows/Office. And Windows Server, kinda, except there isn't much of a retail stream for that anyway.

P.S. Not updating at all has its own set of problems. They're... also probably worse problems. Unless you don't use the internet, in which case sure, if it works for you, you might as well leave it how it is.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:24 pm

Oh, I keep my system updated. I'm not suicidal here. I'll just wait until they fix that one update, and you know they'll have to eventually.

dissent · Post by **dissent** » Mon Aug 19, 2013 5:38 am

tunnelcat wrote:Never let Microsoft do it for you, automatically.

Bingo!!

Grendel · Post by **Grendel** » Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:02 pm

Part of my job is IT. Of the 30 or so computers I'm administrating not a single one had a problem, including the servers. Normal users only get one of these patches anyway, KB 2859537. Uninstall and "hide" it if you are worried.

Foil · Post by **Foil** » Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:41 pm

None of this month's updates caused problems on any of my Windows machines, either.

Grendel · Post by **Grendel** » Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:09 pm

Well, Microsoft needs your help to fix botched patch KB 2859537.

Also, Microsoft Update KB2859537 prevents PC from booting if Rootkit is present.

Krom · Post by **Krom** » Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:54 pm

KB2859537 is installed on all of my active Windows 7 systems (4 of them at the moment) and none of them are exhibiting any issues.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:16 pm

Damned if I do, damned if I don't. Let's just say that when I got married, I inherited his family curse which I call "The (My married last name) Voice of Doom". I then added it as a special corollary to Murphy's Law. It's got a better than odds hit rate too, nearly a 100%, so I stay clear of things that my husband voice-of-dooms. He just had to label this update as such, so I'll wait.

If my husband predicts that something will screw up and actually says it out loud, it will come to pass 100% of the time.

Sirius · Post by **Sirius** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:57 am

Hm. Yeah, apparently I have that update too... no issues... otherwise I guess I'd have some calls to make

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:09 am

I'd like to hear from someone here who's HAD issues with it.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:43 pm

I noticed that the affected update from last month at least disappeared this month. Glad I waited on all my Windows 7 systems. However......... the circus that is the MS update team keeps on screwing up. Our old XP system has Office 2003 and did have this very problem, until I hid the update AFTER installing it.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/wind ... e3ab7f3e24

Top Gun · Post by **Top Gun** » Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:04 pm

Oh, so that's why my system's stuck in an update cycle today? Maybe it's MS's way of yelling, "Get the hell off of XP already, you luddite!"

Foil · Post by **Foil** » Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:11 pm

I'm seeing the same issue on my development machine (Win7 with Outlook 2007 installed). They're looking into it:

MS KB article wrote:Known issues with this security update
• You may be repeatedly offered this update even though it is already installed. Microsoft is researching this problem and will post more information in this article when the information becomes available.

[link]

Jeff250 · Post by **Jeff250** » Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:45 pm

I ran into an Office 2013 one on my Windows 7 VM:

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/wind ... 208577ab5a

This one doesn't even seem to install.

BUBBALOU · Post by **BUBBALOU** » Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:48 pm

Top Gun wrote:Oh, so that's why my system's stuck in an update cycle today? Maybe it's MS's way of yelling, "Get the hell off of XP already, you luddite!"

You still have 199 days till "XP End of Life Cycle" in April 2014

Top Gun · Post by **Top Gun** » Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:21 pm

Yeah, I know. With any luck, I'll have some full-time work by then, so I'll finally be able to build a dream machine and get it on 7. Not sure what I'll do with this hunk of junk then.

Grendel · Post by **Grendel** » Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:46 pm

Foil wrote:I'm seeing the same issue on my development machine (Win7 with Outlook 2007 installed). They're looking into it:

MS KB article wrote:Known issues with this security update
• You may be repeatedly offered this update even though it is already installed. Microsoft is researching this problem and will post more information in this article when the information becomes available.
[link]

Yea, ran into this on a few machines at work. Since the update history lists them as installed, I just marked them as "hidden" -- no more nagging

Did not have the problem on my machines, I prefer using OpenOffice

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:05 pm

BUBBALOU wrote:
Top Gun wrote:Oh, so that's why my system's stuck in an update cycle today? Maybe it's MS's way of yelling, "Get the hell off of XP already, you luddite!"
You still have 199 days till "XP End of Life Cycle" in April 2014

Yeah, our last old XP system is going to get retired very soon. Had it since 2004 and upgraded the graphics once. It's like an old friend now. I think MS is trying to break it on purpose before that time comes though.

CDN_Merlin · Post by **CDN_Merlin** » Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:42 pm

I have 3 Office updates that won't go away even after install. Oh well.

Foil · Post by **Foil** » Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:58 pm

That's the one we were talking about, Merlin.

In any case, it's been fixed:

KB article wrote:...resolved by a detection change released September 13, 2013. This change did not affect the updated files. This change only affects the way that we offer the updates to customers. Customers who have successfully installed the update do not have to take any action.

I just checked, and those repeating updates are no longer being re-offered on my Win7 box.

Jeff250 · Post by **Jeff250** » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:19 am

It looks like they also fixed KB2810009 failing on install.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Sun Sep 22, 2013 2:00 pm

Oooops! Looks like Apple's team is following Microsoft's lead, at least with their Apple TV unit. Tsk, tsk.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/22/47587 ... ble-device

snoopy · Post by **snoopy** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:37 am

The beauty of arch linux is that you know it's going to break something every time you update it, so there's no mystery about it...

Top Gun · Post by **Top Gun** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:47 am

You'd think that "makes significant percentage of test systems non-functional" would kind of be a red flag during testing.

Grendel · Post by **Grendel** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:12 pm

Fresh out, the MS Sep-13 patches. Too early to say if there are problems, but you definitely should install them !

Happy 10th anniversary of MS patch-Tuesday !

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:39 pm

No joy with one from the recent October set, specifically KB2862330. It fails to install.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/KB286233 ... 9542.shtml

I'm going to wait.....again. Don't these guys know how to drive the car and pick their noses at at the same time anymore?

Foil · Post by **Foil** » Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:25 pm

I just went through this month's updates on all my Windows boxes (one Vista, four Win7 machines, and a Server box), and had no issues.

Grendel · Post by **Grendel** » Thu Oct 10, 2013 1:06 am

Ditto -- about 8+ different machines w/o any problem.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:47 pm

Tried it on one machine. Gave me the worries when upon the reboot, it stuck at 32% complete for about 2 minutes, but then it finished. Whew! I guess I'll try my other 2 systems.

Foil · Post by **Foil** » Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:52 pm

tunnelcat wrote:...stuck at 32% complete for about 2 minutes...

I noticed that on one of my machines as well. While it was working on that update, the power to the USB devices on that machine went on/off a couple of times, as if that update was resetting the USB controllers. Now I'm curious to know which update that was.

Top Gun · Post by **Top Gun** » Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:24 pm

I was kind of amazed when I went to shut down my (ancient) XP box the other night and saw all of 18 updates need to be installed. Eighteen. For like a 12-year-old OS. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.

Grendel · Post by **Grendel** » Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:26 pm

Foil wrote:Now I'm curious to know which update that was.

The one in question. KB2862330. My ultrabook running W8 took a very long time to install it as well.

Foil · Post by **Foil** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:15 am

Grendel wrote:
Foil wrote:Now I'm curious to know which update that was.
The one in question. KB2862330.

Ah, of course. Thanks, Gren.