speaking of irony....

[callmeslick]

I offer this:
http://wonkette.com/541946/open-carry-h ... ayWfaBq.01

well, they're safe at the grocery store for a bit, until he makes bail.

[Sergeant Thorne]

All of a sudden Slick isn't grossly mistaken about firearms in America! ...

[Will Robinson]

"details are a bit sketchy"

Yea but that didn't seem to prevent her from filling them in for herself. She says he pointed a gun at someone. Did he? Or is she just trying to scetch that picture for her readers?

The guy may have broken the law or the roommate who wouldn't leave, who may have deserved being ejected, snatched some low hanging fruit because these morons like to carry guns in front of people. Easy enough to say you were threatened when the suspect makes himself look threatening on purpose.

[Tunnelcat]

Gag me! That overly wholesome cartoony image of "My Parents Open Carry" is enough to gag a horse. I don't know why showing a gun on your hip like a veiled threat is even wholesome anyway.

[Spidey]

“Join the Wonketariat”

LOL, you just have to love that old Soviet style propaganda art…lol.

What did we learn here…there are idiots in this world…more news at 11:00

/troll

[Ferno]

so this guy felt his rights were violated because he was told that he was making other people nervous, and then asked to leave a private establishment.

and somehow it's the managers' fault.

someone call this shithead a waahmbulance.


that blog makes me wanna puke my guts out.

[flip]

I'm against open carry too in this day and age. It's unnecessary and given our current societies temperament, bound to evoke a certain amount of fear and paranoia. Concealed carry is fine, I see no reason to walk around with an erection all day

[callmeslick]

ugly mental image, flip, with my morning coffee!

[flip]

Hehe, you get the point though. I am 100% in favor of concealed carry. I can only guess at the motivations of those who like to intimidate others.

[Sergeant Thorne]

I'd be surprised if intimidation of others were the goal. It's more like the most vocal statement of your belief in your 2nd amendment rights, IMO. The fact that people take it as a threat shows that they haven't thought it through, IMO, or just that they really don't like it because they specifically don't support the 2nd amendment. I've seen a few people open-carry, and it always kind of takes me back for a second, just because I'm not used to seeing someone with a gun on their hip, but then what do I have to be afraid of? Really, what? The person is even more likely than a concealed carrier to be legally licensed, and now I know they're armed. Isn't it rather prejudiced to think of them as suspect or a threat purely because they have a gun on their hip? It's not like people don't know about the 2nd amendment in this country...

I don't think this totally pertains to the topic, but it might interest you to know that the criminal elements in the neighborhood are afraid of my family because my dad has open-carried a number of times, and the word has also gotten around through our neighborhood watch. In addition a problem neighbor has tried to make an issue of it with the neighborhood watch captain. All of our good neighbors (including the neighborhood watch captain) don't have a problem with it.

[callmeslick]

I'd be surprised if intimidation of others were the goal. It's more like the most vocal statement of your belief in your 2nd amendment rights, IMO.

how truly moronic a statement of beliefs.... I have every faith that the founding fathers would have taken turns slapping anyone who did so, in a civil society.

I don't think this totally pertains to the topic, but it might interest you to know that the criminal elements in the neighborhood are afraid of my family because my dad has open-carried a number of times, and the word has also gotten around through our neighborhood watch.

I wouldn't be surprised to find that most everyone in the neighborhood is afraid of you all, criminal or otherwise.

In addition a problem neighbor has tried to make an issue of it with the neighborhood watch captain. All of our good neighbors (including the neighborhood watch captain) don't have a problem with it.

or, so they say....or, is it fear talking?

[callmeslick]

I'm always fascinated by the concept of 'neighborhood watch' organizations......seems like borderline vigilante systems at work. I've been fortunate to never have to live for one minute of my life in any neighborhood with one, nor do I plan to do so, ever. We have these folks called police officers who seem to manage pretty well, and yes, the neighbors have and will get on the phone to them. No need to appoint Deputy Dawg from down the block to take charge, and can't see why anyone does.

[Sergeant Thorne]

I guess you have been fortunate. Probably never had someone across the street making and selling Meth or robbing houses... The police can only know or do so much without living on the block.

Also don't be a dick. Our neighbors know us too well to be afraid of us.

[flip]

I like the idea of Neighborhood watches, as long as it's by committee. If the snow storm that swamped us here a few weeks ago taught us anything, it's that in times like that the police are completely incapable of helping and overwhelmed in situations like that. If not for neighbors, that would have been much worse.

I think there must be a balance in the carrying of weapons. In my opinion, open-carry is a little intimidating, especially when you realize that they are and you are not! Considering the debate, concealed carry is more than reasonable. You have the right to defend yourself, and you keep the element of surprise all without offending anyone. I can't count the number of videos I've watched as a policeman gets his butt whooped, trying to protect his weapon from being grabbed. It does not make sense on so many levels.

[Will Robinson]

Open carry doesn't serve much purpose and it is a disruption of the peace.
Everytime a person sees a civilian with a weapon they are faced with a potential threat, likely one that makes them feel very vulnerable and they have to quickly decide what they have to do to get safe.

Why do that to everyone when it doesn't help you 99.999999% of the time and likely causing you problems to varying degrees each time you are the "threat" others have to assess and react to.

[callmeslick]

I guess you have been fortunate. Probably never had someone across the street making and selling Meth or robbing houses...

wrong, guess again. In fact, I am now friends and have been for 30 years with a man who(as a 15 year old boy) I caught trying to break into my house. Never knew of a meth cooker nearby, but I lived in a town in Connecticut which is a virtual heroin processing center.

The police can only know or do so much without living on the block.

Also don't be a dick. Our neighbors know us too well to be afraid of us.

yet, the 'criminal element' does? I smell something, Thorne.....

[callmeslick]

I like the idea of Neighborhood watches, as long as it's by committee. If the snow storm that swamped us here a few weeks ago taught us anything, it's that in times like that the police are completely incapable of helping and overwhelmed in situations like that. If not for neighbors, that would have been much worse.

I'm all for being and having good neighbors....just not deputizing or, heaven forbid, arming them.

[flip]

They are already armed if they choose to and have the necessary license, so that's besides the point, but ultimately I have to agree. Though they are armed, they should only be eyes and ears and use force if directly under attack. I imagine some neighborhoods would be much harder to clean up that others. I feel the same way about elected representatives though. I've said before. The courts and officers of the courts are governing authorities, we must submit to them. Elected representatives are not, they must submit to us. That is how our system of government is slowly being eroded away. The most of them find ways to side-step and undermine law, so no different than any other person that doesn't respect the law. Just a bunch of lawbreakers.

[Sergeant Thorne]

I did say neighborhood watch, not local militia. Poor assumptions all, slick.

LOL @ 15-y/o boy trying to break in 30 years ago. Glad that worked out for good, though. I won't return the personal character insults by asking if he still robs houses.

[snoopy]

Gag me! That overly wholesome cartoony image of "My Parents Open Carry" is enough to gag a horse. I don't know why showing a gun on your hip like a veiled threat is even wholesome anyway.

That picture makes me feel so warm and fuzzy inside...

[Tunnelcat]

You mean like you are about ready to cough up a warm and fuzzy hairball?

[callmeslick]

I did say neighborhood watch, not local militia. Poor assumptions all, slick.

LOL @ 15-y/o boy trying to break in 30 years ago. Glad that worked out for good, though. I won't return the personal character insults by asking if he still robs houses.

I'll save you the speculation. About 3 years later(after he finished high school) I staked him a bit of cash, which he used to start a tree-cutting business. Now his son climbs, and he still runs the business. And, yes he repaid me, with interest.....which, I didn't ask for, but it financed a fun fishing trip for us!

[flip]

Slick's got the right idea. People walk around in fear it seems, makes them angry and they expect everyone to either judge them or treat them with the same disrespect. When you don't it completely throws and disarms them. LOL!, I find it an outright comical shame that Slick and scientology understand that, and Christians don't.

[Duper]

I'm against open carry too in this day and age. It's unnecessary and given our current societies temperament, bound to evoke a certain amount of fear and paranoia. Concealed carry is fine, I see no reason to walk around with an erection all day

It would seem that someone has forgotten what it was be 16.

[flip]

LOL! No, I didn't walk around I hid those under the desk!

[callmeslick]

another image for my morning coffee!!

[Tunnelcat]

Great, now I need to bleach my brain and run it through the wash. And think slick, you just complained about us old farts biatching about intestinal issues. Youth has it's problems and so does old age. What goes around, comes around....eventually.

[callmeslick]

very true, TC....we start out in diapers and sometimes end the cycle similarly attired. Would that I make it that long through this process!

[Sergeant Thorne]

I did say neighborhood watch, not local militia. Poor assumptions all, slick.

LOL @ 15-y/o boy trying to break in 30 years ago. Glad that worked out for good, though. I won't return the personal character insults by asking if he still robs houses.

I'll save you the speculation. About 3 years later(after he finished high school) I staked him a bit of cash, which he used to start a tree-cutting business. Now his son climbs, and he still runs the business. And, yes he repaid me, with interest.....which, I didn't ask for, but it financed a fun fishing trip for us!

Cool story! I was just demonstrating that you can make negative assumptions without any cause if you're so inclined, just as you did about me. I wouldn't ordinarily be inclined to speculate along those lines.

[callmeslick]

fair point, Thorne.......now, this isn't likely a news flash, but so many times on these fora, we make judgements solely based on the words of the other person, typed onto a little screen and modified only by smiley-faced emoticons. Not the sharpest of tools.

[snoopy]

You mean like you are about ready to cough up a warm and fuzzy hairball?

A warm and fuzzy hairball made of rainbows.