[Split from] Super Cat

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Fri May 16, 2014 4:42 pm

sigma wrote:It's all just instinct. Animals come to the aid of not only people, but also other animals. We do not believe that the cuckoo has superintellect when she use this feature of other birds to be breastfed her cubs? While it is true there are many touching instances where dolphins save people from sharks, elephants rescued young children, monkeys save people, and mongooses, etc. Furthermore, it is known that there are several confirmed instances where human kids were raised by wild animals.

Maybe, but it's still impressive that particular dolphin chose a human, who happened to have the tools and hands capable of removing fishing line, instead of another animal. I find it very sad that the Japanese kill these very smart mammals for food.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolphin_drive_hunting

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Sat May 17, 2014 11:08 am

I certainly feel sorry for the dolphins, which are eaten by the Japanese...
But generally that American tourists are happy to eat the brains of live monkeys.
And American soldiers are not much different from rabid animals, when they forced civilians to drink a bucket of water with pepper their captives, and then the soldiers jumped on their stomach.
If you look at the films "Faces of Death" and "Triumph Over Violence" (Beware! Dangerous for the psyche!), then you will easy to treat this than the Japanese eating dolphins.
Despite the fact that these films show the cruelty of life, nonetheless I still can recommend it to see at least once.
If you allow me, I will not provide links to documentaries about the atrocities of American soldiers. Otherwise, you will need to undergo rehabilitation with the use of potent drugs.

Top Gun · Post by **Top Gun** » Sat May 17, 2014 1:24 pm

...where do you even get this ★■◆● from?

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Sat May 17, 2014 1:46 pm

Top Gun wrote:...where do you even get this **** from?

When you remove the blinders from your innocent eyes, you will see that the real story is different from the stories, which you feed in your media.

Top Gun · Post by **Top Gun** » Sat May 17, 2014 7:46 pm

If we have blinders on, then you have your head stuck down a well. The state-run Russian media is one of the most prolific propaganda machines on the planet. Or do you honestly believe that they're not eating right out of Putin's hand?

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Sun May 18, 2014 6:36 am

Top Gun wrote:If we have blinders on, then you have your head stuck down a well. The state-run Russian media is one of the most prolific propaganda machines on the planet. Or do you honestly believe that they're not eating right out of Putin's hand?

Apparently, I do not know what is. Give examples of Russian propaganda, of which you speak, please.

Spidey · Post by **Spidey** » Sun May 18, 2014 10:37 am

Russia is protecting other countries from America.

Oh, never mind I don’t have that much time, this would take forever.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Sun May 18, 2014 1:08 pm

sigma wrote:I certainly feel sorry for the dolphins, which are eaten by the Japanese...
But generally that American tourists are happy to eat the brains of live monkeys.
And American soldiers are not much different from rabid animals, when they forced civilians to drink a bucket of water with pepper their captives, and then the soldiers jumped on their stomach.
If you look at the films "Faces of Death" and "Triumph Over Violence" (Beware! Dangerous for the psyche!), then you will easy to treat this than the Japanese eating dolphins.
Despite the fact that these films show the cruelty of life, nonetheless I still can recommend it to see at least once.
If you allow me, I will not provide links to documentaries about the atrocities of American soldiers. Otherwise, you will need to undergo rehabilitation with the use of potent drugs.

Yes, I actually saw "Faces of Death" and "Faces of Death II" when they came out on VHS videotape. Pretty gruesome stuff, especially the images of accident victims that were in plane and car crashes, although some of the supposed killing scenes were actually staged. However, that the scene of people eating live monkey brains was real. By the way, eating live monkey brains is mostly an Asian and African thing anyway. I'd think most Americans would be repulsed at the very thought of it. Plus, the danger from any diseases the diner be exposed to would certainly outweigh the desire to essentially torture an animal by eating it's brains alive. Doesn't seem to deter the Chinese or Africans who do it though.

Yes, U.S. soldiers have done some nasty things all in the name of war, even more recently in that Abu Ghraib fiasco in Iraq, but so have the soldiers of every other country in the world in wartime. Russia, by the way, was not an exception to this practice during the retreat of the Germans in WWII. So, does one evil justify another evil?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/ ... ts?page=16

Jeff250 · Post by **Jeff250** » Sun May 18, 2014 1:32 pm

sigma wrote:Apparently, I do not know what is. Give examples of Russian propaganda, of which you speak, please.

Russia censors your Internet according to their politics, whereas Americans can view any site that we want.

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Sun May 18, 2014 2:30 pm

Jeff250 wrote: whereas Americans can view any site that we want.

Even if so, you do not use your freedom, and you prefer to take the point of view of the central western media. And usually extremely politicized, biased point of view

http://news.mail.ru/politics/18229922/

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Sun May 18, 2014 2:40 pm

You forget, Cat, that Russian soldiers shot Russian soldiers looters.
Even if sometimes there were individual cases cruelty... which is not surprising ...
I do not want to comment on what you say... Americans torture people for fun, while Russian soldiers destroyed the Nazis.
You are so fun and easy to talk about it, because you probably do not know that every Russian family has relatives, tortured and killed by the German Nazis.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Sun May 18, 2014 4:10 pm

sigma wrote:You forget, Cat, that Russian soldiers shot Russian soldiers looters.
Even if sometimes there were individual cases cruelty... which is not surprising ...
I do not want to comment on what you say... Americans torture people for fun, while Russian soldiers destroyed the Nazis.
You are so fun and easy to talk about it, because you probably do not know that every Russian family has relatives, tortured and killed by the German Nazis.

Don't get me wrong sigma, I don't begrudge the revenge mentality of the Russians against the Nazis. They were cruel and brutal invaders and deserved to be beaten and destroyed. Hell, we tortured Germans during WWII, especially after seeing and liberating the Jewish Death camps. But we're only human and revenge is part of our mentality. Russian soldiers are human too, and they had their own "fun" on the way back to Berlin, just as the German's had their "fun" on their way to Stalingrad. Rape and torture are the tools of terror and revenge, and both sides were guilty of doing it. Sure, there are Americans who torture for fun, every society has their psychopaths, but I'm sure there are quite a few Russian soldiers with the same predilection during war. You just haven't heard about it. It's one of those dirty secrets of war, crimes without honor. Our press tells us about the crimes our soldiers do because they can usually find out about it. But I seriously doubt your government admits that your own soldiers are capable of evil crimes, because your press is controlled by your government, and your government doesn't want you as citizens to know about it. Blissfully ignorant. Crime and evil knows no nationality. Maybe if you understand that we all have the same faults, you'll see we aren't so different from each other after all. (And I just know this is heading for a thread split.

)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_crimes

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Tue May 20, 2014 7:54 am

Sigma, this is not the E&C forum. Keep your anti-American rubbish there.

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Tue May 20, 2014 10:04 am

woodchip wrote:Sigma, this is not the E&C forum. Keep your anti-American rubbish there.

Well, of course!

Criticism of U.S. from citizens of other countries is always anti-American (Russian) propaganda. And of course, inconvenient facts from the history of the United States is always anti-American rubbish.

Isaac · Post by **Isaac** » Tue May 20, 2014 12:24 pm

Wtf... Sigma was happily talking about animals until someone brought up world affairs... Not his fault.

Also, I love sigma's views on America, because it's ironic that the most oppressed country on the planet sees the freest country, U.S, as oppressed. I wish we had more Russians on this forum telling me how oppressed I am, while I legally own hand guns, for fun and self-defense, and say whatever I want, like "Obama is gay. Come find me, faggot FBI".

Sigma! You're what keeps me coming back to this forum!

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Tue May 20, 2014 1:36 pm

Isaac wrote:Wtf... Sigma was happily talking about animals until someone brought up world affairs... Not his fault.

Also, I love sigma's views on America, because it's ironic that the most oppressed country on the planet sees the freest country, U.S, as oppressed. I wish we had more Russians on this forum telling me how oppressed I am, while I legally own hand guns, for fun and self-defense, and say whatever I want, like "Obama is gay. Come find me, ****** FBI".

Sigma! You're what keeps me coming back to this forum!

I do not really understand exactly what you mean when you call Russia the most oppressed country on the planet.

That is walking on the street with a firearm, shooting cats in the trash for fun and blacks for self-defense, and to shout "Obama is gay. Come find me, ****** FBI!", in your opinion, is the manifestation of freedom?

Isaac · Post by **Isaac** » Tue May 20, 2014 4:25 pm

sigma wrote:shooting cats in the trash for fun and blacks for self-defense, and to shout "Obama is gay. Come find me, ****** FBI!", in your opinion, is the manifestation of freedom?

Let me put it this way. Freedom means the government trusts the citizen to do the right thing. I don't need a permit to buy a gun. I don't need a permit to carry a semi-automatic hand gun in my car, around my house, or at my shop. I don't need a permit to carry a long gun in public = Freedom. Freedom means the government trusts me not to go around using my guns to shoot poor cats and people with darker skin than me, in reference to your previous post. Freedom means my government trusts me to only draw my weapon when a life (or property, in some states) is in danger.

Definition of freedom.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Tue May 20, 2014 5:14 pm

Isaac wrote:Wtf... Sigma was happily talking about animals until someone brought up world affairs... Not his fault.

Also, I love sigma's views on America, because it's ironic that the most oppressed country on the planet sees the freest country, U.S, as oppressed. I wish we had more Russians on this forum telling me how oppressed I am, while I legally own hand guns, for fun and self-defense, and say whatever I want, like "Obama is gay. Come find me, ****** FBI".

Sigma! You're what keeps me coming back to this forum!

Actually, he's the one that did start veering off course with this set of comments that were a little off base to my topic. Too bad most Russians see all Americans as weird and evil. We're generally a pretty nice group of people.

sigma wrote:I certainly feel sorry for the dolphins, which are eaten by the Japanese...
But generally that American tourists are happy to eat the brains of live monkeys.
And American soldiers are not much different from rabid animals, when they forced civilians to drink a bucket of water with pepper their captives, and then the soldiers jumped on their stomach.
If you look at the films "Faces of Death" and "Triumph Over Violence" (Beware! Dangerous for the psyche!), then you will easy to treat this than the Japanese eating dolphins.
Despite the fact that these films show the cruelty of life, nonetheless I still can recommend it to see at least once.
If you allow me, I will not provide links to documentaries about the atrocities of American soldiers. Otherwise, you will need to undergo rehabilitation with the use of potent drugs.

Top Gun · Post by **Top Gun** » Tue May 20, 2014 6:17 pm

Isaac wrote:
sigma wrote:shooting cats in the trash for fun and blacks for self-defense, and to shout "Obama is gay. Come find me, ****** FBI!", in your opinion, is the manifestation of freedom?
Let me put it this way. Freedom means the government trusts the citizen to do the right thing. I don't need a permit to buy a gun. I don't need a permit to carry a semi-automatic hand gun in my car, around my house, or at my shop. I don't need a permit to carry a long gun in public = Freedom. Freedom means the government trusts me not to go around using my guns to shoot poor cats and people with darker skin than me, in reference to your previous post. Freedom means my government trusts me to only draw my weapon when a life (or property, in some states) is in danger.

Definition of freedom.

Now see, those of us who live in the United States instead of 'MURIKA tend to feel that freedom involves a lot more than being able to wave around a huge dick-compensator in public.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Tue May 20, 2014 6:29 pm

Mods please move this to E&C.

Isaac · Post by **Isaac** » Tue May 20, 2014 8:54 pm

Top Gun wrote:
Isaac wrote:
sigma wrote:shooting cats in the trash for fun and blacks for self-defense, and to shout "Obama is gay. Come find me, ****** FBI!", in your opinion, is the manifestation of freedom?
Let me put it this way. Freedom means the government trusts the citizen to do the right thing. I don't need a permit to buy a gun. I don't need a permit to carry a semi-automatic hand gun in my car, around my house, or at my shop. I don't need a permit to carry a long gun in public = Freedom. Freedom means the government trusts me not to go around using my guns to shoot poor cats and people with darker skin than me, in reference to your previous post. Freedom means my government trusts me to only draw my weapon when a life (or property, in some states) is in danger.

Definition of freedom.
Now see, those of us who live in the United States instead of 'MURIKA tend to feel that freedom involves a lot more than being able to wave around a huge dick-compensator in public.

my dick has rails and a fiber optic sight. It's not a compensator it's an accessory. Murica

Top Gun · Post by **Top Gun** » Tue May 20, 2014 10:09 pm

I won't ask how you find a decent condom for that thing.

Isaac · Post by **Isaac** » Tue May 20, 2014 10:44 pm

I just use a screw-on suppressor. I bump fire.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Wed May 21, 2014 7:17 am

A whole new meaning to banging

Isaac · Post by **Isaac** » Wed May 21, 2014 8:56 am

There's no de-cocking mechanize on mine.

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Wed May 21, 2014 10:16 am

Isaac wrote:Freedom means my government trusts me to only draw my weapon when a life (or property, in some states) is in danger.

If the U.S. government has allowed citizens to freely acquire, store and use firearms, means was an urgent need for self-defense U.S. citizens from each other. I do not see such a threat or the need for Russia. Though of course, the population has a lot of traumatic, hunting, legal and illegal firearms.

tunnelcat wrote: Too bad most Russians see all Americans as weird and evil. We're generally a pretty nice group of people.

Actually, I sometimes read the comments of ordinary Americans to the news the Western press. And I can confidently say that in the opinion of Americans, I see common sense and independent view on political issues. While also clear that Western journalists trying to deliberately create hype and provocation. It's their job, it's their bread, it's understandable. Also apparently shows that the U.S. political elite is out of touch with reality.
I am against free to carry firearms in Russia. But I think that if the U.S. will continue to intervene in Russia, all of us make use of any weapon.
___________________________________

Add: By the way, Cat, I did once noticed some signs that you may have what is indirectly related to Russia. Maybe your parents were immigrants from Russia, or you for a while lived in Russia. I also suspect that you or a former Russian, or just a very wise woman.

Isaac · Post by **Isaac** » Wed May 21, 2014 2:28 pm

sigma wrote:
If the U.S. government has allowed citizens to freely acquire, store and use firearms, means was an urgent need for self-defense U.S. citizens from each other.

Urgent? No. It's just common sense; a police officer is really heavy and doesn't fit in my pocket. A five shot snubbie, however, does.

Also, when the government disarms its people, that government is tyrannical.

Also, why are we talking abut this here, sigma? Want to start a new thread. Technically we're all talking about the "super cat".

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Wed May 21, 2014 2:48 pm

May be enough to make fun? Here any topic slips into politics. Unintentional offtopic is a natural feature of most forums. For this purpose there moderators.

Isaac · Post by **Isaac** » Wed May 21, 2014 2:57 pm

sigma wrote:May be enough to make fun? Here any topic slips into politics. Unintentional offtopic is a natural feature of most forums. For this purpose there moderators.

Ok, fine fine.

My point is, your lack of freedom will keep you from carrying your gun of choice. Even Tunnelcat is better armed than you are.

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Thu May 22, 2014 10:20 am

Super Cat was weaker and worse armed than a rabid dog that attacked surreptitiously weak and defenseless child. Russia is also weaker than the U.S., but nevertheless it has the courage to defend the weak and defenseless people in other countries from U.S. aggression.

Isaac · Post by **Isaac** » Thu May 22, 2014 11:13 am

Again, you confuse the us government with its people. I, the American, have a right to bear arms, which is a right put in place so that i can join a militia to fight the US Government if it becomes tyrannical, as a last resort against tyranny. Again, that's what a free country has.

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Thu May 22, 2014 12:11 pm

Isaac wrote:Again, you confuse the us government with its people. I, the American, have a right to bear arms, which is a right put in place so that i can join a militia to fight the US Government if it becomes tyrannical, as a last resort against tyranny. Again, that's what a free country has.

U.S. has long been a tyrant. But not for its citizens and for citizens of other countries.
I do not care what size gun can hold ordinary Americans. But it is clear that the U.S. government is much less afraid of armed American than Russian government is afraid of unarmed Russian people.

Pumo · Post by **Pumo** » Thu May 22, 2014 1:30 pm

Isaac wrote:...you confuse the us government with its people...

sigma wrote:...has long been a tyrant. But not for its citizens and for citizens of other countries...

I think this applies to every single country in the world. Usually, governments everywhere sucks very badly, but people can be actually very nice.
A government doesn't always represents the ideology nor the manners of the real people out there (of course, there might be exceptions, but it's more or less a general rule).

Foil · Post by **Foil** » Thu May 22, 2014 4:45 pm

woodchip wrote:Mods please move this to E&C.

I would, but I am not a Café moderator.

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Thu May 22, 2014 8:44 pm

wasn't this about cats at one point?

Isaac · Post by **Isaac** » Fri May 23, 2014 10:16 am

Ferno wrote:wasn't this about cats at one point?

Cat

Japan hates animals

дmerika is kapitolist pig

lol @ Russia

Gun rights