sometimes I get this sense of deja vu....

[Will Robinson]

The first thing to do is stop making silly excuses for the current administrations contribution to the problem.
He won't change his ways, at least not in time to help, unless he is faced with the consequences of his policy.

[Krom]

The problem is that every possible action the current administration could do (short of retroactively ceasing to exist) would count in your opinion as a contribution to the problem. Slick & company aren't making silly excuses, they are just calling your BS.

[vision]

The problem is that every possible action the current administration could do (short of retroactively ceasing to exist) would count in your opinion as a contribution to the problem. Slick & company aren't making silly excuses, they are just calling your BS.

True dat.

[Will Robinson]

Krom, you don't think Obama and his 'foreign policy' in Israel, Syria, Libya, Iraq, etc. etc. has opened the region up to the situation we are talking about?

He has basically committed the same sins GW Bush did. He seeks to destroy the tyrant at the top, romantically thinking about a fresh start for 'the folks', and the nutbags rush in to fill the void he helped create!

[Spidey]

Obama’s approval numbers would be a lot better if you could remove foreign policy from the equation. And it’s not like I don’t like the fact that we haven’t gone in all guns a blazing in every conflict over the past few years…but man…you can’t just replace guns a blazing with nothing.

And don’t talk to me about those old tired “sanctions” because as I have pointed out before…I am against those for many various reasons.

So just some clever action once in a while….huh…too much to ask?

[callmeslick]

The first thing to do is stop making silly excuses for the current administrations contribution to the problem.
He won't change his ways, at least not in time to help, unless he is faced with the consequences of his policy.

more bitching and whining. What a surprise. Still got nothing to offer, huh?

[Will Robinson]

The first thing to do is stop making silly excuses for the current administrations contribution to the problem.
He won't change his ways, at least not in time to help, unless he is faced with the consequences of his policy.

more bitching and whining. What a surprise. Still got nothing to offer, huh?

I have offered the best solution. A new Commander in Chief. Anything that leaves Obama still in that role will be useless. He has undermined any remaining authority we had in the eyes of other leaders so the proper solution will have to come from a new leader.

Am I bitching and whining? Hell yes! Obama has screwed things up worse than anyone could have anticipated. He makes Sean Hannity seem prescient and wise!

[callmeslick]

more complaints and NOT ONE item of substance. The last vestiges of the US dictating it's will to the world were over a decade ago, just hidden behind a bluster of 'exceptionalism' and faux patriotism here. As I said earlier, some will equate Obama's realization of that reality with 'weakness', but it's really intelligence and realism.
Will, go ahead, and suggest some sort of clear path that you would support that doesn't invoke getting rid of the black guy you hate.

[Will Robinson]

I think a new leader who could restore some confidence in our allies and hesitation in our enemies would be quite a substantial offering.

Right now Syria has joined with ISIS in the fight.
Jordan is in the way and was, for a long time a very helpful country to us, will they make decisions based on their confidence in us to not jeopardize their tenuous position? 'What confidence would that be?' should be your reaction to that rhetorical question...

You are so weak, you need to misrepresent my criticism as bigotry...if it was a female president ★■◆●ing it all up your knee-jerk partisan rebuttal would be that I'm sexist. Conveniently letting you dodge the content of the complaint with hopes you have confused the issue with your false allegations.

The truth is I don't hate him, nor do I care a bit about his race.
I despise his refusal to learn from the situation, take advice from those who know better and instead rely solely on his domestic politics skill set.
If the only tool you have is a hammer soon every problem looks like a nail. That is our leader. Right now he's trying to come up with the right formula of rhetoric to put all this mayhem back in Pandoras box.

[vision]

ITT: Will has no suggestions on how to proceed in the Middle East except "get a new leader" for America.

Brilliant. Just brilliant.


Right now I would say the United States is doing everything it needs too. We are maintaining our economic interests while navigating an intense and widespread cultural conflict, all with the minimum engagement necessary. Maybe some of you haven't noticed we are "playing both sides" by offering assistance to fight the Sunnis in Iraq yet supporting Sunnis in Syria? Magical foreign policy really, like a puppet-master safely out of reach, thanks to our stings. People who knock Obama's foreign policy haven't been paying attention to how well played it is (not that there isn't room for improvement, because there is).

[woodchip]

should've inserted a question mark there, Woody. You see, I meant to ask a question, because you have proposed exactly NO plan of action, just the usual stream of whine and blame-Obama claptrap. What would you do?





I keep asking that of certain people, and haven't gotten much of an answer for a week or so now.........easy to ★■◆● and whine with no plan or clue.

What would I do? I'd make notice to all the middle eastern countries that the US will not interfere with any actions by any group of Muslim groups, whether they be terrorist or not. Whatever shakes out is none of our concern. I would then make it clear any terrorist attack against our country, whether it be on our soil or on foreign soil, we will view as a act of war. I would then make it clear that we will reduce their cities to rubble and not be in the least concerned about collateral damage or pictures of dead children. When done we will then send in troops to clean out whatever is left of the suspected leadership. Anyone that looks suspicious will be shot on sight. When we are done we will immediately leave and let the other Arab countries rebuild the one we destroyed. If there is oil there we will take control of it and sell it until our costs for the war is met. Any sign that the original govt is trying to reorganize we will drone kill them. Now, tell me that I am a ★■◆● for proposing this.

[Will Robinson]

...

Right now I would say the United States is doing everything it needs too. We are maintaining our economic interests while navigating an intense and widespread cultural conflict, all with the minimum engagement necessary.

Lol, did you hack into the white house thursday morning press briefing folder? The folder inside the folder named Non-answers on middle east policy for the media gaggle?

...Maybe some of you haven't noticed we are "playing both sides" by offering assistance to fight the Sunnis in Iraq yet supporting Sunnis in Syria? Magical foreign policy really, like a puppet-master safely out of reach, thanks to our stings. ....

"Safely out of reach" ?!?.... "Playing both sides"... You are shameless or stupid.

[vision]

"Safely out of reach" ?!?.... "Playing both sides"... You are shameless or stupid.

Prove me wrong.

[Will Robinson]

"Safely out of reach" ?!?.... "Playing both sides"... You are shameless or stupid.

Prove me wrong.

OK. I like the taste of low hanging fruit sometimes...

Obama, playing one side against the other...taking arms from the ousted Gaddafi regime and shipping them to rebels in Syria to, as you put it, "sting" Assads regime in an attempt to oust him. This policy caused the local militants to attack americans who you say were safe, "out of reach", protected by that brilliant tactician Obama.



I think you have solved the other mystery.... you are both, shameless AND stupid.

[Top Gun]

Ah good, more masturbating over Behghazi. Haven't you shot your load yet?

[vision]

Ah good, more masturbating over Behghazi. Haven't you shot your load yet?

It's all they have TG, don't you dare take that away from them!

So, how many thousands of foot soliders do we have on the front lines of Iraq and Syria? Oh wait, I forgot. None.

Seems like a good policy that's working out well for us.

[Will Robinson]

Add 'denier' to the list.

[Foil]

Cut the personal stuff, guys.