using the definition preferred by some on here....

[callmeslick]

....wherein(see Detroit thread), poverty is a result of political leadership and 'liberal' politics and policies, let's contrast with how things are working out in all those states that went Red during the 80s and 90s after the Reagan Revolution:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/0 ... mg00000063

yeah, let's have some more of that.

[woodchip]

You are looking at it all wrong:


"Income is growing much faster in Republican-leaning "red states" than in Democratic-tilting "blue states" or the pivotal swing states that will decide the 2012 presidential election, a USA TODAY analysis finds."

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nat ... 57846600/1

[callmeslick]

not looking at anything wrong, in fact you add fuel to my argument. Under Republicans for 30 years or so, all of those states rank at the bottom in income. In other words, they had nowhere to go but up, and were hit especially hard by the recession. The blue states were hit less hard, and had higher average incomes going in, so PERCENT recovery shows NOTHING, Woody. Worth noting though, that the Obama recovery has helped all states, not just those whose politics agree with him. The current status quo, as one of those maps showed, is that Red states lag FAR behind blue states in terms of average income(and quality of education, number of high school grads, percentage with health insurance, etc, etc). I don't think you're going to sell that GOP kool-aid to anyone in terms of benefitting the average citizen economically.

[woodchip]

Preach your gospel to the blacks who have gained nothing under Obama. I'll go so far as to say a good percentage of blacks will not be voting a Democrat into the white house in 2016.

[callmeslick]

oh, sure, they'll be voting GOP, for sure.......that bunch has always had their backs.
Hell, if the GOP lost this guy, they're sunk, long-term, even in the South:
http://www.clarionledger.com/story/dail ... /11763673/

not just that he quit, as a core young activist......he is JOINING THE DEMOCRATS!!

[Spidey]

I love how these issues never have any real analysis, just political spin, nah…don’t discuss why the southern states are really way behind the rest of America in context to the post civil war, and things like how long they were governed by racist Democrats…

So let’s just oversimplify things like some here like to do…

What we have learned….

1. Republicans suck at running states…

2. Democrats suck at running cities….

[woodchip]

You think if someone like Ben Carson ran, the blacks would vote for Hillary? And if you want I can dig up instances of black democratic candidates getting shafted by their party during election cycles.

[callmeslick]

I love how these issues never have any real analysis, just political spin, nah…don’t discuss why the southern states are really way behind the rest of America in context to the post civil war, and things like how long they were governed by racist Democrats…

fair enough....and when those racist Dems became racist Republicans in the late 1970s?

So let’s just oversimplify things like some here like to do…

you do get the gist of exactly why I posted this. Stuff is FAR more complex than to say, 'look what liberal politics did', or 'look how badly Red states' residents trail the Blue states'. This thread was a DIRECT response to the Detroit thread.

[callmeslick]

You think if someone like Ben Carson ran, the blacks would vote for Hillary?

yes

And if you want I can dig up instances of black democratic candidates getting shafted by their party during election cycles.

proving what, exactly?