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callmeslick wrote:sources? For which part? Do you really need statistics or 'sources' to detect the denigration of education in the popular culture since 1980? Have you not noted politicians belittling education/educators/intellectuals when it serves their purpose? Do you really disagree that there has been a campaign to denigrate science knowledge? Come on.....of course I wrote my opinion of the trend. That's what you do one discussion boards, but really, sources?
Well if one does not need sources then of course the world is getting colder because I heard some rap group say so. In short slick at least try to give some credence to what you post. While I am not hugely into pop culture I do tend to follow political reporting and for the life of me I'm trying to remember anyone belittling education (however I do remember some black girl accusing her professor/teacher of being racist for using the word "denigrate" so maybe the press who reported this was backhandedly showcasing what you are alluding to). Other than the accusation that a lot of college professors are liberal ideologues, I've not heard anyone knocking getting a education. So show us something to back up your claim. After all, you ask this of me all the time.
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In my opinion, should be made ​​an independent structure for a full investigation of economic and military crimes U.S. long overdue fair to condemn independent magistrates court. U.S. in the world. Other countries should have the right to audit the total U.S. banking sector as the holders of international finance. I believe that there are many reasons to recognize the U.S. bankrupt and urgently had to be controlled externally U.S. economy. Because do not understand where the U.S. spends money that we invest in their economies. And of course, the United States should pay damages from loss of income Russia and the EU as a result of the introduction of unjustified unilateral U.S. sanctions.
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sigma wrote:In my opinion, should be made ​​an independent structure for a full investigation of economic and military crimes U.S. long overdue fair to condemn independent magistrates court. U.S. in the world. Other countries should have the right to audit the total U.S. banking sector as the holders of international finance. I believe that there are many reasons to recognize the U.S. bankrupt and urgently had to be controlled externally U.S. economy. Because do not understand where the U.S. spends money that we invest in their economies. And of course, the United States should pay damages from loss of income Russia and the EU as a result of the introduction of unjustified unilateral U.S. sanctions.
While you are at it go investigate this: Pro Russia rebels shoot civilians out of sky
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ya and don't forget the Korean Airliner they shot out the Air several years ago.
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Will Robinson wrote:While you are at it go investigate this: Pro Russia rebels shoot civilians out of sky

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I can only guess what rudimentary excrement feeds your brain Western press. Actually wounded Ukrainian soldiers flee to Russia because Kiev simply adrift. Russia has been helping even the soldiers who killed yesterday Ukrainian children and the elderly. I'm shocked as you litter the brains. Although now I'm not surprised. Opinion of the U.S. administration and the Western media has almost disappeared for me. So do not be surprised if I ignore some of your posts.
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Will Robinson wrote:While you are at it go investigate this: Pro Russia rebels shoot civilians out of sky

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I can only guess what rudimentary excrement feeds your brain Western press. Actually wounded Ukrainian soldiers flee to Russia because Kiev simply adrift. Russia has been helping even the soldiers who killed yesterday Ukrainian children and the elderly. I'm shocked as you litter the brains. Although now I'm not surprised. Opinion of the U.S. administration and the Western media has almost disappeared for me. So do not be surprised if I ignore some of your posts.
that's pure comedy central that post is
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CUDA wrote:that's pure comedy central that post is
You do not even Neanderthal. If you try to become a man, and if I will see a spark of reason in your eyes, in that case, you can assume you have lived in your worthless life is not in vain.
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Sigma your little brainwashed lemming act is starting to wear a wee bit thin.
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CUDA wrote:..... Seems everything that has happened since 2008 is Bush's fault
No, not everything. But he left such a bad taste in my mouth after I voted for him, I still can't get it washed out. And yes, Obama has flunked on the job and shown he's not man enough for a knife fight with anarcho-capitalist militaristic Republicans (and quite a few kiss butt Dems) who would rather pursue a scorched earth policy than really work hard towards fixing what ails our country for everyone. Obama has essentially checked out of the job. I have no love for him anymore either.

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Will Robinson wrote:While you are at it go investigate this: Pro Russia rebels shoot civilians out of sky
They're denying it.

http://news.yahoo.com/maylasian-plane-c ... 26322.html

Plus, you're forgetting that there was another Malaysian Airliner terrorist crash in the Indian Ocean (it hasn't been found yet) just a few short weeks ago that the Russians couldn't have possibly had anything to do with. The pilot and copilot were Muslims. I don't know why we can't work with the Russians to fight against our real enemy, Islamic terrorists of all stripes. The Russians aren't our enemy, but we're sure making them into one.
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Top Gun wrote:Sigma your little brainwashed lemming act is starting to wear a wee bit thin.
I'll bet he does stand-up too :P

I gave up taking anything he posts seriously MONTHS ago, as I'm sure most here have too.

seriously if you were Russian would you believe anything a government run news agency reports when the government is lead by a "former" spy????
The organisation Reporters Without Borders compiles and publishes an annual ranking of countries based upon the organisation's assessment of their press freedom records. In 2013 Russia was ranked 148th out of 179 countries
Freedom House compiles a similar ranking and placed Russia at number 176 out of 197 countries for press freedom for 2013, putting it level with Sudan and Ethiopia.
The Committee to Protect Journalists states that Russia was the country with the 10th largest number of journalists killed since 1992, 26 of them since the beginning of 2000
I guess those 26 reporters weren't reporting what Ol' Vlad wanted them to :P (and yes I know those deaths probably had nothing to do with him)

Nice track record for accurate reporting in Russia. no wonder Sigma is so misguided

HEY SLICK, should we hook him up with Happy from CWOS :twisted2:
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sigma wrote:.... So do not be surprised if I ignore some of your posts.
No, I wont be.

It can't be easy to try and rationalize and make excuses for something like this.

Even those who specialize in it, like Putin, will not have an easy time with it.
He should try 'the Hillary'...just get real mad and scream 'What does it matter?!?...I've got a war to manage here...' it seems to work for those who have the media in their pocket.
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HEY SLICK, should we hook him up with Happy from CWOS :twisted2:
evil thought, my friend, but apples and oranges. One is brainwashed, the other is brain-dead. :twisted2:
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callmeslick wrote:One is brainwashed, the other is brain-dead. :twisted2:
TRUE
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I just want to throw in the most recent gem from Glorious Leader Putin for Comrade Sigma to peruse. Putin came out swinging against Ukraine on the downed Malaysian flight insanity, stating that if Ukraine was pursuing peace, then this wouldn't have happened. I swear, I just about choked on the hypocrisy.
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Yeah, it looks like a rebel commander, in a now deleted tweet, "claimed" they fired on what they thought was a Ukranian military transport, but both sides are blaming each other for the "accident". Now, I don't see the Ukranian miltiary doing that because the rebels don't have an air force, thus no planes to be shot down by the Ukrainians in the first place.

So that leaves the rebels, who are being supported by the Russians, the same said rebels who have taken Ukrainian military hardware in base raids not long ago. Some of that stolen military hardware probably included Russian mobile anti-aircraft missle launchers. So sigma, what say you? It is starting to look like those Russian supported rebels may have murdered a whole plane load innocent airline passengers.
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You generally try to understand what I'm telling you? I recently said that the U.S. needs to create enemies, that they were able to fight them.
I do not doubt your mental capabilities. Just your brain is constantly covered with a thick layer of powder. Okay, let's switch on the logic in this case. Who benefits inflate the conflict in the Ukraine? Who for more than 50 years engaged in sabotage in the world? You do understand the style of thinking of people who make movies like "James Bond"? And now ask yourself who benefited accident Malaysian Boeing in Ukrainian conflict zone.
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So it was Americans who shot the airliner down. Sigma, do you understand what the word "troll" means?
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callmeslick wrote:One is brainwashed, the other is brain-dead. :twisted2:
with Sigma's last post I'm beginning to wonder which is which?
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note, CUDA......I left the question there open myself.
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James Bond was a British creation.
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callmeslick wrote:sources? For which part? Do you really need statistics or 'sources' to detect the denigration of education in the popular culture since 1980? Have you not noted politicians belittling education/educators/intellectuals when it serves their purpose? Do you really disagree that there has been a campaign to denigrate science knowledge? Come on.....of course I wrote my opinion of the trend. That's what you do one discussion boards, but really, sources?
And yet you have no problem asking for stats when it suits your purpose:
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Will Robinson wrote:Slick there are more crossing the border now than last year and more that year than the year before...
stats, please.
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sigma wrote:You generally try to understand what I'm telling you? I recently said that the U.S. needs to create enemies, that they were able to fight them.
I do not doubt your mental capabilities. Just your brain is constantly covered with a thick layer of powder. Okay, let's switch on the logic in this case. Who benefits inflate the conflict in the Ukraine? Who for more than 50 years engaged in sabotage in the world? You do understand the style of thinking of people who make movies like "James Bond"? And now ask yourself who benefited accident Malaysian Boeing in Ukrainian conflict zone.
An urgent need to create an international commission to investigate crimes USA. Otherwise, the U.S. will continue to commit crimes.
So the producers of Die Hard are trying to build a back story to save their franchise by shooting down the jet so the Russians will make a more convincing bad guy in the next movie?!?

Yes!

But let me borrow a page from Putins book...'if you guys were better bad guys this wouldn't have happened.' You have lost your edge and because of that you have caused this unfortunate circumstance to unfold.

Someone once said
"The fate of some people is simply to prove as a cautionary tale for others".

I think sigma is the proof that letting a central government control the media, education and the means of production/sustenance is inherently disastrous for the people.
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woodchip wrote:
callmeslick wrote:sources? For which part? Do you really need statistics or 'sources' to detect the denigration of education in the popular culture since 1980? Have you not noted politicians belittling education/educators/intellectuals when it serves their purpose? Do you really disagree that there has been a campaign to denigrate science knowledge? Come on.....of course I wrote my opinion of the trend. That's what you do one discussion boards, but really, sources?
And yet you have no problem asking for stats when it suits your purpose:
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Will Robinson wrote:Slick there are more crossing the border now than last year and more that year than the year before...
stats, please.
sharp eyes. I asked for what metric you wished to see stats for, although I DID express surprise that you would question the basic point.
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