ISIS thoughts

Foil · Post by **Foil** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:14 pm

Challenging an answer, or lack thereof, is one thing.

The "cross-dresser" / "bunch of homo's" shots are another.

Cut the childish stuff.

CUDA · Post by **CUDA** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:46 pm

never said a bunch of Homo's

CUDA · Post by **CUDA** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:50 pm

sigma wrote:
callmeslick wrote:you claimed that Georgia invaded Russia during that period of conflict. You also later claimed that US troops begged to be moved from the Eastern European theater. I asked, on both occaisions, for you to document and back up your claim with NON RUSSIAN media reports, and suggested perhaps Asian or African sourcing. You make a lot of charges and claims and NEVER back them up.
I do not give more links in the confirmation of my words, because there is at once hysterics, it's Russian propaganda.

in English that means he doesn't have any

the point was to find a source that WASN"T Russian. obviously none exist.

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:18 pm

CUDA wrote:
sigma wrote:
callmeslick wrote:you claimed that Georgia invaded Russia during that period of conflict. You also later claimed that US troops begged to be moved from the Eastern European theater. I asked, on both occaisions, for you to document and back up your claim with NON RUSSIAN media reports, and suggested perhaps Asian or African sourcing. You make a lot of charges and claims and NEVER back them up.
I do not give more links in the confirmation of my words, because there is at once hysterics, it's Russian propaganda.
in English that means he doesn't have any

the point was to find a source that WASN"T Russian. obviously none exist.

You will be surprised, but in Russian it means exactly what I said. Russian does not love to play in play-actor and facial grimaces. Even a fake smile in understanding the Russian - it is an insult. Not to mention the fact that if you play the psychological performance in dealing with Russian, you will risk losing their trust in a long time. Just for information.

CUDA · Post by **CUDA** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:37 pm

so according to you. I'm supposed to believe you just because your Russian and you said it.

UHM YA, doesn't work that way.

as a former US President said about Russians "Trust but Verify"

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:23 pm

sigma wrote:I do not give more links in the confirmation of my words, because there is at once hysterics, it's Russian propaganda.
Why Skyalmian can find analytical articles on political topics, and you do not?
Besides, I'm not going to open a branch of Wikipedia here.
In addition, we are not in court, so I provided you the proof.

in other words, you cannot either access or locate ANY corroboration to your simpleminded claims beyond the Russian press.
Nice, and we should take your word for it, why?

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:03 pm

You amaze me every time. Actually, we have not made lying to our friends. We have, if somebody caught in a deliberate lie - for the first time will be forgiven, for the second time will be given in the face, the third time will expel from the team. Or do you have there is a tradition in America to demand from your friends proof of each their of the words?

Thank God I do not live in America!

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:06 pm

I don't believe your words. I don't think, for the record, that you are attempting to lie. I feel you have such limited access to varied
sources that you don't KNOW the truth. I am steering you towards a method to seek the truth, but you either won't try or cannot access anything outside your home nation's media sources and viewpoints.

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:26 pm

callmeslick wrote:I don't believe your words. I don't think, for the record, that you are attempting to lie. I feel you have such limited access to varied
sources that you don't KNOW the truth. I am steering you towards a method to seek the truth, but you either won't try or cannot access anything outside your home nation's media sources and viewpoints.

Yea-ah? And I got on the contrary the impression that you only want to hear this kind of truth that you want to hear.

CUDA · Post by **CUDA** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:29 pm

and you wont KNOW the truth unless you look for it now will you.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:02 pm

CUDA wrote:never said a bunch of Homo's

That was flip's comment.

Wading through all this back and forth tells me we're never going to have peace with Russia. We can't see that our own century of Western Imperialism has pissed off the Russians, and the Russians can't see that the growth of Soviet Communism freaked out the Western World and we can't forget it. We're doomed.

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:09 pm

Of course, to divert attention from the direct and explicit military invasion of the United States to other countries, Americans are beginning to blame the Russian is that they do not provide references to verify the information their posts in the forums on the Internet

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:24 pm

tunnelcat wrote:
CUDA wrote:never said a bunch of Homo's
That was flip's comment.

Wading through all this back and forth tells me we're never going to have peace with Russia. We can't see that our own century of Western Imperialism has pissed off the Russians, and the Russians can't see that the growth of Soviet Communism freaked out the Western World and we can't forget it. We're doomed.

Women will save the world again, as I understand...

CUDA · Post by **CUDA** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 5:06 pm

sigma wrote:Of course, to divert attention from the direct and explicit military invasion of the United States to other countries, Americans are beginning to blame the Russian is that they do not provide references to verify the information their posts in the forums on the Internet

I'll show you mine if you show me yours

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 6:10 am

sigma wrote:
callmeslick wrote:I don't believe your words. I don't think, for the record, that you are attempting to lie. I feel you have such limited access to varied
sources that you don't KNOW the truth. I am steering you towards a method to seek the truth, but you either won't try or cannot access anything outside your home nation's media sources and viewpoints.
Yea-ah? And I got on the contrary the impression that you only want to hear this kind of truth that you want to hear.

well, you were wrong.Now, back up your claims with REAL proof.

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 6:47 am

callmeslick wrote:
sigma wrote:
callmeslick wrote:I don't believe your words. I don't think, for the record, that you are attempting to lie. I feel you have such limited access to varied
sources that you don't KNOW the truth. I am steering you towards a method to seek the truth, but you either won't try or cannot access anything outside your home nation's media sources and viewpoints.
Yea-ah? And I got on the contrary the impression that you only want to hear this kind of truth that you want to hear.
well, you were wrong.Now, back up your claims with REAL proof.

You want to say that American politicians are not required to provide proof of their claims, charges, and I have to provide proof of my words?

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 6:56 am

American politicians are challenged, publicly, on a daily basis. Partly(perhaps mainly) because their citizens have access to news and viewpoints around the world(even Russian sources), and can sort through and find the truth. You've been dancing around this too long. It's obvious that you don't wish to back your claims up with any proof, so your claims are WORTHLESS babbling, nothing more. I'm going fishing now, for a week. See what you can dig up, or quit making ludicrous claims.

Will Robinson · Post by **Will Robinson** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:07 am

callmeslick wrote:American politicians are challenged, publicly, on a daily basis. Partly(perhaps mainly) because their citizens have access to news and viewpoints around the world(even Russian sources), ....

It is unfortunate however that we here are trending toward the Russian model of propaganda to control the voters except instead of one party we have two. So the lies have to come in competing versions fit through the rhetorical template of one or the other party.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:43 am

most of what you complain about, Will, is the fault of the public, not the government. If a citizen is too lazy to seek the truth, in this day and age, that is THEIR fault, not the spin doctors. Geez, I have to go start packing the car. See y'all in a week.

Will Robinson · Post by **Will Robinson** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:43 am

callmeslick wrote:most of what you complain about, Will, is the fault of the public, not the government. If a citizen is too lazy to seek the truth, in this day and age, that is THEIR fault, not the spin doctors. Geez, I have to go start packing the car. See y'all in a week.

It is irrelevant to the point raised but thanks for the travel update.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:05 pm

sigma wrote:Of course, to divert attention from the direct and explicit military invasion of the United States to other countries, Americans are beginning to blame the Russian is that they do not provide references to verify the information their posts in the forums on the Internet

No U.S. soldiers are in Ukraine.....yet, sigma. But perhaps we'll end up putting in some "advisers".

Will Robinson · Post by **Will Robinson** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:46 am

The same way we used to be told there was a commie behind every other problem in the world sigma and his fellow countrymen are still being taught to see an evil american behind every event that his government has to 'protect' them from.

They still have a need for the American bogeyman. We have moved on to newer threats.

Of course that protection they recieve has come at the expense of their ability to recieve honest information and have freedoms that we take for granted.

The upside is Putin is bringing the Russian 'bad guy' back for us to fear. Hollywood is happy because the Russian villain has a more commanding screen presence than the islamofacist and the politically correct crowd doesn't seem to care if we stereotype Russians.

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 9:45 am

Maybe enough to lie to themselves? Communism... the Russian threat... the Islamic threat... a threat to national security... democracy... etc... etc... It's just artificially created grounds for the development of the American military-industrial complex and the growth of sales of weapons. Bloody business. But Americans do not care that this business is killing thousands of innocent people in other countries. So they just make money. All appeals to the conscience, humanity, honesty - it does not matter to Americans.

CUDA · Post by **CUDA** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 1:37 pm

WAIT FOR IT!!!!!!!

what's the most widely used weapon in the world today. UHM that would be the Kalashnikov AK-47 and who makes the AK-47, that would be Russia.
So please tell us again about the "development of the American military-industrial complex and the growth of sales of weapons"

there are over 100 million Kalashnikov's in circulation, but only 8 million AR-15's

Maybe enough to lie to themselves

Maybe you do

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:01 pm

Why is the organization which has the name of NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization), has spread around the world and continues to expand and threaten and dictate their terms to other countries?

flip · Post by **flip** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:42 pm

Eh, you know, I skimmed somewhere Sigma saying how Russians would just relish killing American soldiers and how they must all be a bunch of cowards to resign at the first sign of a threat. Maybe a little low but not uncalled for

CUDA · Post by **CUDA** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:57 pm

sigma wrote:Why is the organization which has the name of NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization), has spread around the world and continues to expand and threaten and dictate their terms to other countries?

maybe because the countries that belonged to the WARSAW PACT Got sick to death of the Russian intimidation and control and decided to join the other side.

hey no comment about the Kalashnikov??

Ya I know....... western propaganda

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 3:18 pm

CUDA wrote:
sigma wrote:Why is the organization which has the name of NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization), has spread around the world and continues to expand and threaten and dictate their terms to other countries?
maybe because the countries that belonged to the WARSAW PACT Got sick to death of the Russian intimidation and control and decided to join the other side.

hey no comment about the Kalashnikov??

Ya I know....... western propaganda

My little shaggy friend, the Warsaw Pact was abolished 23 years ago. While the United States and NATO every day now prove that they are real inadequate military threat to world peace.

CUDA · Post by **CUDA** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 3:26 pm

Czech Republic
Hungary
Poland
Bulgaria
Estonia
Latvia
Lithuania
Romania
Slovakia
Slovenia
Albania
Croatia

All former Warsaw pact members and Current NATO members that chose to make a military alliance AGAINST Russia after the break up of the Soviet Union. if Russia was such a great friend and a peace loving ally, why the need for a military alliance against them? and then to sustain it all these years later?

yes I know it's the threat of US nuclear attacks against them. I get it. they only stay connected because of FEAR. much like Soviet Russia used to do huh?

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 4:36 pm

flip wrote:Eh, you know, I skimmed somewhere Sigma saying how Russians would just relish killing American soldiers and how they must all be a bunch of cowards to resign at the first sign of a threat. Maybe a little low but not uncalled for

flip, believe me, Russia will not touch anyone if they themselves do not want this

CUDA · Post by **CUDA** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 5:14 pm

sigma wrote:
flip wrote:Eh, you know, I skimmed somewhere Sigma saying how Russians would just relish killing American soldiers and how they must all be a bunch of cowards to resign at the first sign of a threat. Maybe a little low but not uncalled for
flip, believe me, Russia will not touch anyone if they themselves do not want this

REALLY, you keep telling yourself that.

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:18 am

CUDA wrote:REALLY, you keep telling yourself that.

I admire your talent to turn the discussion into a bird ruckus

Sergeant Thorne · Post by **Sergeant Thorne** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 6:00 am

sigma wrote:flip, believe me, Russia will not touch anyone if they themselves do not want this

Meaning you would not involve yourself in a conflict that "they" were not already pushing for? That sounds great, but how is it that you have the pulse of your government, sigma? Do you really believe that the leaders of Russia are so much like you? In America that's a mistake that a lot of people make, and it is something people in positions of power take advantage of to deceive the general public about their true intentions (works the same way in business P.R.).

CUDA · Post by **CUDA** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 6:24 am

sigma wrote:
CUDA wrote:REALLY, you keep telling yourself that.
I admire your talent to turn the discussion into a bird ruckus

and I love your ability to spout unsupported accusations and blatant lies. Then run away and cower in a corner when challenged over them.

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:30 pm

Sergeant Thorne wrote:
sigma wrote:flip, believe me, Russia will not touch anyone if they themselves do not want this
Meaning you would not involve yourself in a conflict that "they" were not already pushing for? That sounds great, but how is it that you have the pulse of your government, sigma? Do you really believe that the leaders of Russia are so much like you? In America that's a mistake that a lot of people make, and it is something people in positions of power take advantage of to deceive the general public about their true intentions (works the same way in business P.R.).

I have no reason to love the United States. Let the United States will give at least one reason for my sympathy for him. But they do not want.
And by the way, I express my opinion is not based on the opinion of the Russian government, but on the basis of my opinions about the actions of the United States.

Will Robinson · Post by **Will Robinson** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:48 pm

sigma wrote:
Sergeant Thorne wrote:
sigma wrote:flip, believe me, Russia will not touch anyone if they themselves do not want this
Meaning you would not involve yourself in a conflict that "they" were not already pushing for? That sounds great, but how is it that you have the pulse of your government, sigma? Do you really believe that the leaders of Russia are so much like you? In America that's a mistake that a lot of people make, and it is something people in positions of power take advantage of to deceive the general public about their true intentions (works the same way in business P.R.).
I have no reason to love the United States. Let the United States will give at least one reason for my sympathy for him. But they do not want.
And by the way, I express my opinion is not based on the opinion of the Russian government, but on the basis of my opinions about the actions of the United States.

If the Russian government wanted you to have an opinion they would have given one to you....and they have.

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:25 pm

Will Robinson wrote:
sigma wrote:
Sergeant Thorne wrote:
sigma wrote:flip, believe me, Russia will not touch anyone if they themselves do not want this
Meaning you would not involve yourself in a conflict that "they" were not already pushing for? That sounds great, but how is it that you have the pulse of your government, sigma? Do you really believe that the leaders of Russia are so much like you? In America that's a mistake that a lot of people make, and it is something people in positions of power take advantage of to deceive the general public about their true intentions (works the same way in business P.R.).
I have no reason to love the United States. Let the United States will give at least one reason for my sympathy for him. But they do not want.
And by the way, I express my opinion is not based on the opinion of the Russian government, but on the basis of my opinions about the actions of the United States.
If the Russian government wanted you to have an opinion they would have given one to you....and they have.

You can not say no reason to Russian people do not perceive the United States as an enemy?

Krom · Post by **Krom** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:34 pm

sigma wrote:You can not say no reason to Russian people do not perceive the United States as an enemy?

Sure we can, and the reason is because your government tells you to perceive the United States that way.

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:55 pm

Krom wrote:
sigma wrote:You can not say no reason to Russian people do not perceive the United States as an enemy?
Sure we can, and the reason is because your government tells you to perceive the United States that way.

Maybe before making conclusions, you must first make a step towards?

CUDA · Post by **CUDA** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:38 pm

I express my opinion is not based on the opinion of the Russian government, but on the basis of my opinions about the actions of the United States.

which is formulated by the information the Russian government gives you. hey have you found that independent verification that slick requested almost 3 weeks ago??????