this is why Hillary ISN'T my dream candidate

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:59 pm

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ ... ar-BBia8LY

this is the sort of carelessly arrogant ★■◆● she can be capable of......no need to call her names, sexist or otherwise. This is serious stuff....not, to my mind, that she is hiding records. It seems like they slavishly turned over anything conceivable. It's the security of someone in her position using personal email accounts, and not giving it a thought. I think Senator Warren would be brighter than this. Now, she won't run, because she is too soon removed from being a 'Harvard elitist' and she knows it. But, this is the substantial stuff that gives me pause about Ms.Clinton, and OUGHT to be where folks take the fight to her. To date, what you all have read into me as support of her is just the political wonk view that she has assembled a tremendous machine, capable of likely crushing anything coming at her. But, as my idea of a President, she can't hold a candle to either her husband, nor Obama, in the brains department.

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:31 am

sounds like some of the arsehole stuff we catch our MP's doing.

I may sound jaded here, but she certainly isn't the first to do it, and definitely won't be the last to do it.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:04 am

So lets see, a ditz like Hillary for president or a brain surgeon like Carson. Guess I'll vote for the ditz

To bad the Dems have no depth on their team.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:07 am

Warren could wipe the floor with the GOP field. Every last one of them. It isn't a shallow field, to date, it is simply a one-person field in terms of real interest. Nothing indicates that Clinton is a 'ditz', either, and she has a far better grasp of world affairs and economics than Ben Carson could ever hope to, if that's where you're pinning your hopes.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:25 am

Well you gave us Obama who had zip zero nada experience running anything except his mouth, yet Carson would be a bad choice in your eyes. Like I said, your whole field is weak.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:31 am

Obama is a brilliant man and a long-range thinker. To date, Carson has shown NEITHER quality. He's a bright man, with no plan.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:18 pm

Obama is so brilliant only because people like you say so. And Obama had no plan back in 2008 other than the color of his skin.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:41 pm

hateful BS with no basis in reality. He was, in the one and one half hour talk I heard, and in another 20 minute conversation, in possession of a clear set of goals, a path to get there, and most important to me, a long-range vision for the nation. The latter went WAY past his two terms in office and envisioned a US poised to enter the 22nd century as a world leader. Too sad that so few think in such terms or formulate such plans, but I'll stand behind the ones I find that do.

Top Gun · Post by **Top Gun** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:58 pm

Hell, maybe she just got fed up with Outlook and didn't feel like trying to set up a second account.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:46 pm

callmeslick wrote:hateful BS with no basis in reality. He was, in the one and one half hour talk I heard, and in another 20 minute conversation, in possession of a clear set of goals, a path to get there, and most important to me, a long-range vision for the nation. The latter went WAY past his two terms in office and envisioned a US poised to enter the 22nd century as a world leader. Too sad that so few think in such terms or formulate such plans, but I'll stand behind the ones I find that do.

One has to ask if Obama was a Republican if you would be so glowing bright eyes about him

vision · Post by **vision** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:24 pm

woodchip wrote:One has to ask if Obama was a Republican if you would be so glowing bright eyes about him

These kinds of comments are so stupid. Would you be attracted to your wife if she was a man? Would your car go so fast if it were a bicycle? Would your dog bark so much if it were a cat?

Really though, Obama isn't too far from being a moderate Republican. He's only slightly left of center. That's how he got elected. That's how anyone gets elected. You have to move to the center to get the votes. And after you do get the job, you have to compromise. Obama has done plenty of that, as evidenced by some of the horrible laws he's helped pass.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 6:37 am

woodchip wrote:
callmeslick wrote:hateful BS with no basis in reality. He was, in the one and one half hour talk I heard, and in another 20 minute conversation, in possession of a clear set of goals, a path to get there, and most important to me, a long-range vision for the nation. The latter went WAY past his two terms in office and envisioned a US poised to enter the 22nd century as a world leader. Too sad that so few think in such terms or formulate such plans, but I'll stand behind the ones I find that do.
One has to ask if Obama was a Republican if you would be so glowing bright eyes about him

sure, because if he was a Republican, in good standing, it would mean that the party no longer embraced hatred, screwing the working people, environmental stupidity and extremist religious thought.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:04 am

I'm wondering how our environment is doing down by the boarder with all the trash left by the future democratic voters. I also wonder if people slaved to the welfare system wouldn't appreciate more jobs being created even tho the owners make ridiculous amounts of profits. I wonder how many people appreciate the lefts attacks on Christianity but embrace Islam. I wonder if people think now the Great Black Hope made race relations better or worse. Yeah being a Dem must really be satisfying.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:07 am

Also the email issue is snowballing. Using ones personal emails for discussing intel and having the account hacked so Putin could read everything will be a big plus for the smartest woman in the world when she runs for pres.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:14 am

woodchip wrote:I'm wondering how our environment is doing down by the boarder with all the trash left by the future democratic voters.

many of whom, when they learn English, will be able to tell the Border from the Boarder.

I also wonder if people slaved to the welfare system wouldn't appreciate more jobs being created even tho the owners make ridiculous amounts of profits

you'd have to go to Bangladesh, India and China to ask them.

I wonder how many people appreciate the lefts attacks on Christianity but embrace Islam.

likely most people just want others to practice their religion in peace and not foist it on others.

I wonder if people think now the Great Black Hope made race relations better or worse. Yeah being a Dem must really be satisfying.

in the sense one doesn't walk around angry all the time, yes, it is.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:15 am

woodchip wrote:Also the email issue is snowballing. Using ones personal emails for discussing intel and having the account hacked so Putin could read everything will be a big plus for the smartest woman in the world when she runs for pres.

and, it was the security aspect that I expressed alarm about in the OP. Who on Earth claims her to be the 'smartest woman on Earth'. I've never heard that one from her supporters.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:51 am

Type Hillary Smartest Woman in google and see how many pages pop up. You live in some kind of vacuum?

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:48 am

like I care.......note, the difference in tone here. I say she isn't my dream candidate, you wallow in anger and senseless 'attacks'. The difference between the thinking center of the political spectrum and the mindless right, in a nutshell.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:32 am

Lets see, you defend and espouse ignorance. I try to help and you come back with a non-nonsensical statement. Yup the Left in a nutshell.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:21 am

what defense or espousal of ignorance are you babbling about? I seldom defend you.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:43 pm

"Who on Earth claims her to be the 'smartest woman on Earth'. I've never heard that one from her supporters"

That ignorance.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:55 pm

seriously, that google search came up with a bunch of nobodies, and a non-surprising list of sarcastic right wing sites. Not really too impressive. No one of substance describes her as 'the brightest' or 'the smartest', ever. Even her supporters. They will claim she is smart, innovative, and above all, determined, but hardly a Rhodes Scholar. That would be her spouse. Who, by the way, coined the term 'smartest woman in the world' when speaking about her. I'll let a spouse go with that, as if I didn't regard Mrs Slick likewise, she'd go all Sicilian on me.

you can return to your alternate universe now, Woody.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:25 pm

Nobodies = people who don't agree with slick.

vision · Post by **vision** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:50 pm

woodchip wrote:"Who on Earth claims her to be the 'smartest woman on Earth'. I've never heard that one from her supporters"

I've also never any of her supporters say or even think that, though I only know a few people who voted for her in the 2008 primaries.

Just for kicks I used Google to search for "woodchip Smartest Woman" this came up: Poor woodchip, a broken record skipping for 10+ years.

Perpetually unhappy man.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:58 pm

woodchip wrote:Nobodies = people who don't agree with slick.

like I said, right-wing loons. No one except Bill ever seems to have said those words.

Spidey · Post by **Spidey** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:31 pm

Top Gun wrote:Hell, maybe she just got fed up with Outlook and didn't feel like trying to set up a second account.

It takes about 2 minutes to set up an e-mail client…yea, let’s elect her to be president.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:33 pm

callmeslick wrote:
woodchip wrote:Nobodies = people who don't agree with slick.
like I said, right-wing loons. No one except Bill ever seems to have said those words.

Nah, Left wing idiocy at best.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:44 pm

then, how come not one 'left wing' person calling her the 'smartest woman' in any context comes up in the first 3 pages of the google search you suggested? Funny thing about this thread is that while I stated at the outset why this incident explains MY misgivings as a potential supporter, you are doing everything you can to make her look like the rational, best choice, Woody.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:45 pm

callmeslick wrote:then, how come not one 'left wing' person calling her the 'smartest woman' in any context comes up in the first 3 pages of the google search you suggested? Funny thing about this thread is that while I stated at the outset why this incident explains MY misgivings as a potential supporter, you are doing everything you can to make her look like the rational, best choice, Woody.

Oh come on slick, Hillary Clinton has been called that for 20 years now. Just when her big chance comes along and she is shown not to be very bright you start to play ignorant.

vision · Post by **vision** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:46 pm

woodchip wrote:Hillary Clinton

I'm guessing you are wearing your ignorance with pride now?

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:53 pm

I'm guessing you still don't have a clue.

Top Gun · Post by **Top Gun** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 6:13 pm

vision wrote:Poor woodchip, a broken record skipping for 10+ years.

Holy crap, I was posting that long ago? Now I feel freaking old.

Spidey wrote:
Top Gun wrote:Hell, maybe she just got fed up with Outlook and didn't feel like trying to set up a second account.
It takes about 2 minutes to set up an e-mail client…yea, let’s elect her to be president.

That's, ah say, that's a joke son!

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 6:37 pm

woodchip wrote:Hillary Clinton

Even when he's been beat to pulp over this, he still uses it.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Mon Mar 09, 2015 6:43 am

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/03/08/ ... andal.html

still have my reservations about Ms.Clinton, as stated, but this sure chills the extreme arguments I've heard in the last few days.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:26 am

I suggest you read closely what Powell says and how it is no where near the same as Hillary Clinton.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:28 am

no need to respond to anyone referring to a woman as a Hag. Sorry. I only deal with mature adults.

Spidey · Post by **Spidey** » Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:06 am

Good thing Powell isn’t running for president…

Yea, let’s use the old “he did it too” excuse. "Yea I stole something, but so did he…"

Ummmm…that makes you both wrong.

Is it hypocrisy in the ranks…well we will never know, because Powell never ran for president.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:01 am

As I said at the outset, Spidey, I think it shows a certain mindset(which, it now turns out is widely shared by others in public office) that I'd like to see gone from government. A certain 'entitlement' attitude, if you will. Trying to turn this matter into anything much more will just backfire, sort of like Bengazi did, and get ZERO resonance from the general electorate.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Mon Mar 09, 2015 11:10 am

Yeah, everyone goes to the lengths Hillary Clinton did to set up her personal email acct.:

"Hillary Clinton was not publicly registered as the owner of the domain and server she used to operate a personal email account registered to her home, making it difficult to trace the account back to the former secretary of state, according to a CNN review of Internet business records.

Instead, Clinton's accounts were registered under the names of aides, according to the review. She also used a proxy company to shield her involvement, a common practice among domain owners."

So what were you saying about everyone again?

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Mon Mar 09, 2015 2:49 pm

love it when Woody bolsters her case.