the guy woody would suggest as President

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:55 am

he is at 42% in a poll of LIKELY GOP PRIMARY VOTERS. In other words, the 30% of the hardest core of the party that only claims 20% of all US voters.
Saying you have less than half of 6% of the adult population isn't an impressive statistic.

snoopy · Post by **snoopy** » Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:40 pm

I guess time will only tell...

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:06 pm

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34873057

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:58 pm

And it begins. The terrorists have already won.

Top Gun · Post by **Top Gun** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:37 pm

Apparently someone asked him "How is that any different from making Jews register in a database?" and he didn't have an answer. What a royal ★■◆●.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:42 pm

He couldn't respond to bringing up something from the dark shadows of the Nazis. He's had to walk back his statement, ever so slightly by blaming a reporter.

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 12:45 am

did he really use the mishearing excuse?

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:43 pm

Well, it's either that, or outright lie to everyone since Trump seems to have a Teflon suit of armor that no one can penetrate with anything remotely approaching the truth.

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/ ... hanopoulos

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:48 pm

the guy just posted a set of bogus death stats for blacks and whites, citing a non-existant source, borrowed from a Neo-Nazi web page. He will kill off the GOP yet.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:12 pm

Yeah, and I bet if anyone in the media had the balls to push it into Trump's face, he'd just stand there and say that they were making those stats up, despite solid evidence to the contrary. Trump also swears he heard Muslims cheer in New Jersey when the Twin Towers fell, despite boatloads of evidence that it never happened, from multiple, reliable, sources. He's fear-mongering his way to the presidency and his xenophobic followers are eating it up like candy. God help us, it's not the terrorists we'll have to worry about if this guy actually gets elected. Damn, I wish Jeff had left images active. I've got a good one for this.

sigma · Post by **sigma** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:48 pm

I already feel sorry for the Americans. It's not funny anymore, and just sad to see how one of the world's major powers so rapidly and foolishly loses its credibility in the world. PBS is not a news channel supermarket chain, in the end.

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Spidey · Post by **Spidey** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:54 pm

The NewsHour is the best in the business...can't really say that about the entire network.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 6:37 pm

callmeslick wrote:the guy just posted a set of bogus death stats for blacks and whites, citing a non-existant source, borrowed from a Neo-Nazi web page. He will kill off the GOP yet.

Wow, look at all the bogus crap the Dems posted about people like Romney and they didn't kill themselves off.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 6:44 pm

tunnelcat wrote:Yeah, and I bet if anyone in the media had the balls to push it into Trump's face, he'd just stand there and say that they were making those stats up, despite solid evidence to the contrary. Trump also swears he heard Muslims cheer in New Jersey when the Twin Towers fell, despite boatloads of evidence that it never happened, from multiple, reliable, sources. He's fear-mongering his way to the presidency and his xenophobic followers are eating it up like candy. God help us, it's not the terrorists we'll have to worry about if this guy actually gets elected. Damn, I wish Jeff had left images active. I've got a good one for this.

Like when they edited the Trevon Marten tapes, CNN get caught editing a Trump tape. Must be nice to have the news doing the dirty work for the Dems:

Left-wing cable news network CNN has been caught red-handed selectively editing Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump’s comments about a “Muslim registry,” and doing so in order to make it sound as though he is agreeing to this registry. He is not.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 7:00 pm

Good grief woody. Trump's black death stats AND his insistence that he heard Muslims cheering after the Twin Tower fell are plain outright lies that anyone with an internet connection and half a brain can verify. Are you in love with the man that much you'd overlook crap like that, no matter what BS CNN puts out? He's clearly pandering to his fearful base.

Spidey · Post by **Spidey** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 7:12 pm

I saw Muslims dancing in the streets on 911, admittedly it was on TV.

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 7:52 pm

no you didn't.

Lothar · Post by **Lothar** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 8:04 pm

Nate Silver wrote: it’s not enough for Trump to merely avoid fading. Right now, he has 25 to 30 percent of the vote in polls among the roughly 25 percent of Americans who identify as Republican. (That’s something like 6 to 8 percent of the electorate overall, or about the same share of people who think the Apollo moon landings were faked.) As the rest of the field consolidates around him, Trump will need to gain additional support to win the nomination. That might not be easy, since some Trump actions that appeal to a faction of the Republican electorate may alienate the rest of it. Trump’s favorability ratings are middling among Republicans (and awful among the broader electorate).

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 10:08 pm

Spidey wrote:I saw Muslims dancing in the streets on 911, admittedly it was on TV.

You did, but it was in Palestine, not the U.S.

So if Trump was so irritated by Arabs dancing in New Jersey streets, why didn't he mention it during this interview right after 9/11?

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... -911-video

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 11:34 pm

Thing is, with the "muslims dancing in the streets", it's completely bogus.

All they did was cut in a random clip and label it that way.

Spidey · Post by **Spidey** » Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:45 am

Sure, and I guess “they” faked the interviews afterwards as well.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:53 am

tunnelcat wrote:Good grief woody. Trump's black death stats AND his insistence that he heard Muslims cheering after the Twin Tower fell are plain outright lies that anyone with an internet connection and half a brain can verify. Are you in love with the man that much you'd overlook crap like that, no matter what BS CNN puts out? He's clearly pandering to his fearful base.

Would you like me to list the lies Hillary has spoken, yet you will vote for her if she doesn't get arrested first for lying to federal agents.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Tue Nov 24, 2015 7:02 am

Lothar wrote:
Nate Silver wrote: it’s not enough for Trump to merely avoid fading. Right now, he has 25 to 30 percent of the vote in polls among the roughly 25 percent of Americans who identify as Republican. (That’s something like 6 to 8 percent of the electorate overall, or about the same share of people who think the Apollo moon landings were faked.) As the rest of the field consolidates around him, Trump will need to gain additional support to win the nomination. That might not be easy, since some Trump actions that appeal to a faction of the Republican electorate may alienate the rest of it. Trump’s favorability ratings are middling among Republicans (and awful among the broader electorate).

This is just so bogus and out of touch with reality that I don't know where to begin. To consolidate, Real Clear Politics has Trump within 4 points of Hillary in the national run off.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Tue Nov 24, 2015 7:25 am

woodchip wrote:
callmeslick wrote:the guy just posted a set of bogus death stats for blacks and whites, citing a non-existant source, borrowed from a Neo-Nazi web page. He will kill off the GOP yet.
Wow, look at all the bogus crap the Dems posted about people like Romney and they didn't kill themselves off.

please, this just sounds childish, and stupid.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Tue Nov 24, 2015 8:11 am

callmeslick wrote:
woodchip wrote:
callmeslick wrote:the guy just posted a set of bogus death stats for blacks and whites, citing a non-existant source, borrowed from a Neo-Nazi web page. He will kill off the GOP yet.
Wow, look at all the bogus crap the Dems posted about people like Romney and they didn't kill themselves off.
please, this just sounds childish, and stupid.

Ah yes, because the Dems did it and somebody brings it up in comparison...it is childish and stupid. Nice try on deflecting.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Tue Nov 24, 2015 9:05 am

no, Woody, making far fetched, generalized comparisons to trivial stuff from 4 years ago by way of excusing retweeting neo-nazi posts with blatantly false data about deaths, as well as making up a story about 'thousands' of US citizens celebrating 9/11 when no such thing ever happened is childish.

Vander · Post by **Vander** » Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:47 am

callmeslick wrote:
woodchip wrote:Wow, look at all the bogus crap the Dems posted about people like Romney and they didn't kill themselves off.

please, this just sounds childish, and stupid.

In my experience, this is as close as it gets to wood conceding something like "bogus crap" emanating from his tribe. Small victories.

Foil · Post by **Foil** » Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:59 am

While I understand that the name-calling here is currently directed at perspectives, you guys are treading close to making it personal.

Foil, many times, wrote:[mod] Keep it professional, boys. [/mod]

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Tue Nov 24, 2015 12:15 pm

Spidey wrote:Sure, and I guess “they” faked the interviews afterwards as well.

well, when it mirrors the "jews dancing in the streets" nonsense, and when it's talking about the muslim community of Jersey City (which a quick fact check reveals that it didn't happen), i'd say it's fake.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Tue Nov 24, 2015 3:11 pm

woodchip wrote:
tunnelcat wrote:Good grief woody. Trump's black death stats AND his insistence that he heard Muslims cheering after the Twin Tower fell are plain outright lies that anyone with an internet connection and half a brain can verify. Are you in love with the man that much you'd overlook crap like that, no matter what BS CNN puts out? He's clearly pandering to his fearful base.
Would you like me to list the lies Hillary has spoken, yet you will vote for her if she doesn't get arrested first for lying to federal agents.

Uh woody, when have I ever said that Hillary was just a poor persecuted angel? I haven't forgotten all the crap that transpired while Bill was pres. and which she was involved in up to her neck and I haven't forgotten her little "lies" or cover-ups while she was Sec. of State. I wouldn't vote for her if I could help it, unless the only choices were either her or Trump. Trump is a far scarier prospect than old insider politician Hillary.

Vander · Post by **Vander** » Tue Nov 24, 2015 9:35 pm

Is Trump a Democrat plant?

Seriously. He's the perfect caricature of conservative baffoonery.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Tue Nov 24, 2015 9:43 pm

And they worship and kiss the ground he trods upon.

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:08 am

If it weren't so serious, i'd consider him the perfect troll.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 12:29 pm

http://www.salon.com/2015/11/25/stephen ... new_level/

Spidey · Post by **Spidey** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 4:26 pm

Ferno wrote:
Spidey wrote:Sure, and I guess “they” faked the interviews afterwards as well.
well, when it mirrors the "jews dancing in the streets" nonsense, and when it's talking about the muslim community of Jersey City (which a quick fact check reveals that it didn't happen), i'd say it's fake.

Except I wasn’t referring to jersey city.

Hint: tc got it right.

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 6:54 pm

Spidey wrote: Except I wasn’t referring to jersey city.

Hint: tc got it right.

You must be talking about the fox news one. My point still stands -- out of context clip.

Now, unless you have something stronger to offer, I think we can consider this bit dealt with.

Spidey · Post by **Spidey** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 7:35 pm

I never watch Fox News.

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 11:57 pm

Well, I looked into it. That's the only place that had it.

snoopy · Post by **snoopy** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 9:44 am

tunnelcat wrote:

http://www.salon.com/2015/11/25/stephen ... new_level/

Yes, that answer to points of view that you disagree with is mockery.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:54 am

snoopy wrote:Yes, that answer to points of view that you disagree with is mockery.

when those 'points of view' veer towards empty headed or juvenile, I tend to choose sarcasm. But, that's just me..............