Goodbye Sweden...

Nightshade · Post by **Nightshade** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:12 am

One of the safest, most crime free and secular nations in the world (one that our lefty liberal friends loved) is no longer what it was.

It's being taken over by woman degrading "God fearing" theocratic rapists...

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callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 7:25 am

so, you can find a few panicked xenophobes there, too. Doesn't make it true. This video is REAL short on facts.

Top Gun · Post by **Top Gun** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:31 pm

Such xenophobia. Very racism. Wow.

vision · Post by **vision** » Mon Dec 28, 2015 9:09 pm

People still watch Pat Condell videos? You realize that making these videos is his job, right? This is literally the definition of "outrage entertainment." He's no different than Beck or Limbaugh or Jones. I mean, when he first started years ago he at least tried to make good points. Now everything he does is literally to generate ad revenue and sell books.

Nightshade · Post by **Nightshade** » Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:42 am

vision wrote:People still watch Pat Condell videos? You realize that making these videos is his job, right? This is literally the definition of "outrage entertainment." He's no different than Beck or Limbaugh or Jones. I mean, when he first started years ago he at least tried to make good points. Now everything he does is literally to generate ad revenue and sell books.

Very Alinsky of you.

Nightshade · Post by **Nightshade** » Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:43 am

callmeslick wrote:so, you can find a few panicked xenophobes there, too. Doesn't make it true.

Sorry slick. Even people you don't agree with can also speak the truth.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:44 pm

Nightshade wrote:
callmeslick wrote:so, you can find a few panicked xenophobes there, too. Doesn't make it true.
Sorry slick. Even people you don't agree with can also speak the truth.

sorry, not that source. Not buying it, for reasons you dismissed with the goofy-assed Alinski comment.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Tue Dec 29, 2015 5:58 pm

Damn, that guy sounds just like Hitler. Maybe he's a close relative or something because everything he espouses sounds like an echo script out of Mein Kampf, right down to that reference of "multicultural nightmare" substituted for Hitler's "Jewish peril".

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Tue Dec 29, 2015 6:20 pm

it's funny. My Swedish friends(and there are quite a few, thanks to the Internatonal Fly Tying community) laugh at these sorts of suggestions from right-wing Americans(by and large the source). Everything is ok there, not utopia, but sure as hell not the US, either.

Nightshade · Post by **Nightshade** » Tue Dec 29, 2015 6:47 pm

callmeslick wrote:it's funny. My Swedish friends(and there are quite a few, thanks to the Internatonal Fly Tying community) laugh at these sorts of suggestions from right-wing Americans(by and large the source). Everything is ok there, not utopia, but sure as hell not the US, either.

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7133/ ... ered-heads

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Tue Dec 29, 2015 8:10 pm

so, on the one hand, we have a few dozen folks I know who LIVE IN SWEDEN versus the blather from Gatestone.
What IS the Gatestone Institute?
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/ ... _institute
a neo-con 'think' tank run by John Bolton, disgraced moron who thought 'nation building' and 'pre-emptive defense' were valid policies for the US. He has no more on the ground knowledge of Sweden than you do, NS/TB.

Nightshade · Post by **Nightshade** » Tue Dec 29, 2015 8:28 pm

callmeslick wrote:so, on the one hand, we have a few dozen folks I know who LIVE IN SWEDEN versus the blather from Gatestone.
What IS the Gatestone Institute?
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/ ... _institute
a neo-con 'think' tank run by John Bolton, disgraced moron who thought 'nation building' and 'pre-emptive defense' were valid policies for the US. He has no more on the ground knowledge of Sweden than you do, NS/TB.

And there goes slick quoting a loony website that calls anyone that does not agree with "The Narrative" a militarist neocon.

That does not change the true face of islam:

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:03 pm

my point is that you no more understand Islam than you do Sweden, which is not at all. Is it not a reputable fact that Bolton headed the 'Institute'? Or, that they are from NYC, not even someplace NEAR Europe? Or, that the neocons never grasped the first understanding of either Islam or middle eastern tribal culture? Give us a break with the breathless, doom and gloom, xenophobic claptrap, ThunderBunny. We all see through it, and have for a long time.

Nightshade · Post by **Nightshade** » Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:23 pm

callmeslick wrote:Give us a break with the breathless, doom and gloom, xenophobic claptrap

Until it comes here... http://www.latimes.com/local/california ... story.html

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 3:03 pm

so a relative handful of events over 15 years reflects any potential for a full-scale overhaul of our system to a Muslim dominated society? Or, even the likelihood that all that many people will EVER be at risk(remember, so far less than 4000 casualities out of a population of 300,000,000, over 15 years...hell, walking across intersections is more of a danger. As you were told, NS, you are urging us to live as a nation of hateful cowards. I'll pass.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:29 pm

Nightshade wrote:
callmeslick wrote:
woodchip wrote:
Top Gun wrote:It really must suck to live your life like a scared, whimpering little four-year-old girl TB. Maybe a set of truck nuts will make things better.
Obviously sticking your head in the sand works for you. Not all of us care to live like that.
It would be one thing if you had a rational alternative to raising panics to stuff that isn't likely to ever happen here, but the lack thereof renders someone like TB to the 'humor' category.
Not likely to happen here:

Boston marathon bombing...

San Bernardino mass shooting...

Garland Texas attack...

DC sniper...

1993 World trade center bombing...

Ft. Hood mass shooting...

Oklahoma beheadings...

September 11th attacks...

Meanwhile, you forget that thousands of people die each year from either firearm accidents, or motor vehicle accidents, far more than have died in ALL the terrorist attacks that have occurred on U.S. soil to date. You're more likely to die in a car accident caused by some drunk, or even a stupid home accident, than in some terrorist attack.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... s/1784595/

Meanwhile, the terrorist fear-mongers have managed to erode our precious freedoms, all in exchange for what passes as national security and draconian protection measures these days. All this brought to you by the same paranoid xenophobes who hate the government, yet don't mind it spying on everyone in the name of security.

Top Gun · Post by **Top Gun** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:39 pm

Somewhere zombie Benjamin Franklin is pissed.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 5:30 pm

Top Gun wrote:Somewhere zombie Benjamin Franklin is pissed.

and Jefferson is slapping his knee, saying, "I told y'all".

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:03 am

Reading tb's response reminds me of that one scene in Kingsmen, where the gentleman walks into the church, before the cells start going off.

Maybe that's where he gets his ideas from? That or the globe tabloid.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:13 am

So how many attacks by Japanese Americans occurred before all of them got locked up?

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:20 am

woodchip wrote:So how many attacks by Japanese Americans occurred before all of them got locked up?

you mean, in one of the moral stains upon our nation's soul? Are you actually DEFENDING internment camps?

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:30 am

meanwhile, in Texas:

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/1 ... remacists/

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:56 am

by the way, after an end-of-year fly tying BS session with them, I put the question anew to my Swedish pals. Here are some facts NS overlooks. Sweden took in, this year alone, 160,000 refugees. Read that number as often as you need to and then wonder why some assholes in the US balk at ANY, or even the paltry 10,000 that has been suggested. Second, while the influx did cause the Swedish government to put brakes on MORE influx it was to be able to maintain the system they STRONGLY, on a UNIFIED basis, support: all refugees are to be given housing, food and clothing assistance. There are holding camps now to get folks organized to enter that system, but LITTLE actual reporting of crimes due to the refugees at all. The fact that they have to show some restraint in the face of the influx of over one million people to Europe seems to pain Swedes greatly(why can we not give more, a couple said). In fact, the only issue Sweden has been raising is the capacity to take 160,000 people per year on a regular basis.Would that the US had such a national fabric of decency. We once did.

Spidey · Post by **Spidey** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:17 pm

callmeslick wrote:meanwhile, in Texas:

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/1 ... remacists/

Always a good day when we can point something at whitey.

So one germ is more dangerous than another, but anyone with a brain can figure out that is because of sheer numbers.

Lots of angry white guys in America…lots of angry brown people in Syria.

Sorry…but I have no preference for one over the other.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:49 pm

Spidey wrote:
callmeslick wrote:meanwhile, in Texas:

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/1 ... remacists/
Always a good day when we can point something at whitey.

so, that is how you view the rise of white supremecists? How mighty white of you! This is OUR nation, and the threat to us is not from abroad but from within, with folks pointing fingers abroad to distract from the internal agenda being promoted, even within one major political party, as their candidates fall over one another spreading hate for anything past white conservatives.

Spidey · Post by **Spidey** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 2:07 pm

Lol, no the other three sentences are my view on white terrorists.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 2:56 pm

Spidey wrote:
callmeslick wrote:meanwhile, in Texas:

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/1 ... remacists/
Always a good day when we can point something at whitey.

So one germ is more dangerous than another, but anyone with a brain can figure out that is because of sheer numbers.

Lots of angry white guys in America…lots of angry brown people in Syria.

Sorry…but I have no preference for one over the other.

Yeah, but the angry white guys live here already and are freely thumbing their nose at the law with their firearms. I'm linking to the Earth First site because they gave a little more background into this local dispute. But since I live in Oregon, I've heard all about this particular group of nutbags and things still haven't been settled. So this bastard who doesn't own the surface rights to the land, only the mining rights, is probably tearing up the land and mining gold anyway, on BLM surface land that we ALL own.

http://earthfirstjournal.org/newswire/2 ... in-oregon/

http://news.yahoo.com/groups-warn-orego ... 21303.html

Spidey · Post by **Spidey** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 3:05 pm

Yea, Yea…and if he were a black mayor from a major northern city, he could have just as easily said he was more worried about black guys with guns than Syrians.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 3:08 pm

At least Syrian refugees don't own guns, until they move here and can easily buy them in order to mount future terrorist attacks.

Krom · Post by **Krom** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 4:15 pm

tunnelcat wrote:At least Syrian refugees don't own guns, until they move here and can easily buy them in order to mount future terrorist attacks.

Rofl, nice!

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:27 pm

woodchip wrote:So how many attacks by Japanese Americans occurred before all of them got locked up?

uh, zero?

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Fri Jan 01, 2016 7:53 am

http://www.esquire.com/style/grooming/a ... lim-beard/

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Fri Jan 01, 2016 12:59 pm

I think the beard makes him look more handsome and intelligent. He looked like Dracula without it.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:30 pm

The opening and closing lines of a Twilight Zone episode called "He's Alive" I watched last night. It's still appropriate today. People never learn.

Rod Serling wrote:Portrait of a bush-league Führer named Peter Vollmer, a sparse little man who feeds off his self-delusions and finds himself perpetually hungry for want of greatness in his diet. And like some goose-stepping predecessors he searches for something to explain his hunger, and to rationalize why a world passes him by without saluting. That something he looks for and finds is in a sewer. In his own twisted and distorted lexicon he calls it faith, strength, truth. But in just a moment Peter Vollmer will ply his trade on another kind of corner, a strange intersection in a shadowland called the Twilight Zone.

Rod Serling wrote:Where will he go next, this phantom from another time, this resurrected ghost of a previous nightmare - Chicago? Los Angeles? Miami, Florida? Vincennes, Indiana? Syracuse, New York? Anyplace, everyplace, where there's hate, where there's prejudice, where there's bigotry. He's alive. He's alive so long as these evils exist. Remember that when he comes to your town. Remember it when you hear his voice speaking out through others. Remember it when you hear a name called, a minority attacked, any blind, unreasoning assault on a people or any human being. He's alive because through these things we keep him alive.

Foil · Post by **Foil** » Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:09 pm

[mod] I was hoping to come back from vacation, not to read personal crap in threads here. Apparently that was too much to ask. I've cleaned up junk in here, do not make me clean up more. [/mod]

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:46 pm

hadn't visited this thread in a few days......not sure I even noticed anything cleaned up, but welcome back.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Mon Jan 04, 2016 6:04 pm

read this analysis today.....it's hilarious!

Last year, 44 Americans were shot by Muslim terrorists. By comparison, 52 Americans were shot by toddlers. Which raises the question: Why isn't the government doing more to protect us from toddlers? Think about it. They don't share our values. They barely speak English. They steal our welfare. They have no marketable skills. They're prone to angry outbursts. Worst of all? Most of them aren't even Christians. How long until we say enough is enough and deport these free-loading parasites once and for all???

Spidey · Post by **Spidey** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:00 pm

A stupid meaningless statistic for sure, how many toddlers fly airliners into buildings…oh, that’s right I forgot, if it’s not about guns…it doesn’t register on the radar.

So I’m also going to guess if you get your legs blown off by a pressure cooker bomb, that won’t count either.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:17 pm

Spidey wrote:A stupid meaningless statistic for sure, how many toddlers fly airliners into buildings…oh, that’s right I forgot, if it’s not about guns…it doesn’t register on the radar.

So I’m also going to guess if you get your legs blown off by a pressure cooker bomb, that won’t count either.

what is more frightening... The longshot chance that some Muslim terrorist gets past the gates and does something bad, or that a substantial number of your fellow citizens are driving around every day with no concept of control over legally purchased weapons that can kill? I know where my fears would fall.....

Spidey · Post by **Spidey** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:22 pm

Believe me...I know what scares you.