Vote rigging...how's it feel?

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Vote rigging...how's it feel?

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In this case, the vote seems to have been stolen at least in one instance:

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/ ... /79902080/
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feels like politics, NS. If you don't think the Dem establishment was pushing for Hillary, you would be naive.
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I'd just like to know why Iowa has that goofy-ass caucus (*snigger*) system in the first place instead of voting normally like the rest of Western civilization.
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there are good points about it, TG. First, it is interactive......part primary and part discussion groups. This does get a glimpse on how strongly voters are bound to one or another candidate, how willing they are to listen to platforms and ideas, and how dedicated they are to the process(I'd be willing to be some recruitment of election cycle volunteers comes out of the caucus process). Other than the media, frankly, whose perceptions count as the process goes forward, most folks don't put a lot of stock in the Iowa caucuses. For the dems, the total of delegates at stake equals 2% of the total needed to win the convention. What you see in TB/NS's example is just the party trying to massage perceptions. Had Bernie actually won, albeit narrowly, the narrative for Hillary was one of desperation and the likely shellacking she will receive in New Hampshire, tomorrow, would have been even more dire than it will be. The Clintons wield a large chunk of power in the Dem party, less than Obama but with the latter staying above the fray,so far, the Clintonistas are probably exerting massive pressure on the party leadership. Especially receptive, will be one Debbie Shultz, who has been angling for a top job under Hillary for a couple years now and is DNC chair. Not only this nonsense, but the whole matter of scheduling debates at first so as few people as possible saw or listened to Sanders, and threatening anyone seeking to go outside that schedule,then on to the feverish addition of debates before NH when Hillary realized she was losing by 20 percent(at least Bernies people made the price for those to be two extra debates before super Tuesday).....the whole thing was geared towards a bit of polite scuffle, followed by a coronation. That script SHOULD have been easy to cobble together, seeing as how it was the one in place back in 2008 that didn't go according to plans.
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