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When the love of country fades...

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...the country's death isn't far behind.
A federal employee of the National Park Service who offers guided tours of Independence Hall in Philadelphia -- the birthplace of the Constitution -- stunned a group of tourists this week by telling them the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence were the product of "class elites who were just out to protect their privileged status."

Mary A. Hogan, a federal employee making in excess of $95,000 per year in salary and benefits, provided a tour Monday afternoon at Independence Hall laced with factual inaccuracies and disparaging comments about the Founders and the Constitution.

Several attendees of her tour group on Monday told PJ Media that Hogan, who goes by the name Missy, had explained to them that "the Founders knew that when they left this room, what they had written wouldn't matter very much."
You really can't blame the woman as she is probably the product of the leftist farce of an education she was indoctrinated by.

Were the founders of the country angels? No, not by any means...but there are ideals that a country is founded on. If they are no longer of any value to its people, the country may well cease to exist.

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It’s about time someone told the truth about those useless dead white sperm donors.
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Perhaps she was remembering to way, way, waaaay back to our country's inception, that the Constitution never defined who was eligible to vote and that most states only gave white, male property owners (who were usually wealthy slave owners as well) the right to vote. Sounds kind of elitist to me back then. It wasn't until 1856 that the requirement to own property was even removed, although in 5 states, you had to pay taxes to vote. Plus, it wasn't until after the Civil War and 4 more Constitutional Amendments, the 15th, the 19th, the 24th and the 26th, that pretty much everyone else in our country got the unrestricted right to vote including getting rid of the poll tax. Until recently that is, with Republicans and their photo ID crackdown.
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I seriously doubt anyone could remember that far back. :P

Judging people from the past through the lens of the present is ALWAYS a mistake, just consider this…what will people 200 years in the future think of you. You might be at the vanguard of modern thinking today, but considered a barbarian in 200 years.

Their thinking was pretty much advanced for the time, and the credit must be given as such, and also for the foresight of creating a system that gives us what we have today.
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I see they are taking Jackson off of the twenty dollar bill.
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Good. He was a major historical prick, for those who read any unvarnished U.S. history at all. It's time to put a person on the twenty that did something good beside march quite a few Native Americans of this land to their suffering and doom during a forced death march. He's no better than the Japanese who marched our soldiers to their deaths on the Bataan Death March in WWII.

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But you forgive the Japanese enough to drive one of their cars.
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True 'nuf. But that nasty fact is well known in history. I even just finished a book on the Bataan Death March and I have no love for what many Japanese soldiers did. Not all of them were evil during that march, there were a few compassionate soldiers among the lot, but enough of them were sadistic to make it hell. If you're going to blame the Japanese however, you also need to blame FDR and the War Department, because it was they who abandoned all those soldiers and civilians to the mercies of the invading Japanese in the Philippines in the first place. We as a nation never tried to cover up the Japanese atrocities as anything but evil, but we also did bury the fact that WE were culpable in leaving our own people there to rot and die at the hands of the enemy. They were thrown to the wolves as just collateral damage.

As to my buying Japanese cars, well, they currently make a better built and more reliable product than what the American companies sell at this moment and I refuse to give my money to corporations that don't care about the quality of the product they sell their customers. I was thinking of Chevrolet, but since GM decided that Corvallis didn't need a dealership and closed it down, tough luck. No sale. I'm also too old to keep repairing or paying for repairing the current American offerings. Plus, my ownership of Japanese cars is relatively new anyway. I've only owned the 2 of them since 2011 and 2016 and both of them were actually built in Japan. Before that, they've been all American brands since the day I got married. Even my stepfather, who was a tried and true American iron car buyer all his life, finally gave up and bought both a Lexus and a Volvo when he switched years ago. If the American car companies want to get my business, build something with a comparable quality. I'd rather give my money to American companies, but only if they respect me enough to build a quality product and the ease to service it.

Back on thread, this country likes to paint their Founders as God-like perfect heroes without fault, which in a sense is true in that they created one of the greatest new nations on Earth, America. That took a lot of fortitude, smarts and hard work. But it wasn't so clean of a job creating a nation from what everyone thinks was nothing. They did a lot of bad things on the road to building this nation and perhaps our history needs to expose those long buried evils our Founding Fathers commited. So perhaps it's time to emblazon the twenty with someone who was a true hero to those who were trying to escape oppression, not a man who's been painted through all our history as almost a God-like figure, when in reality he was someone who did some pretty evil and nasty things to the natives who were here first. It's time to quit whitewashing our Founding Father's history and actions as that of perfect people and start teaching our people about their all-too-human warts. They were not perfect human beings and perhaps people need to know that in the lens of history. Even with their warts, I can still respect them as great human beings.
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