Is "feminism" truly feminist?

[Nightshade]

It really isn't in many cases- especially when it comes to the plight of women in real danger of oppression or worse:

[callmeslick]

and, you've clearly never paid attention to feminists, or even lukewarm feminists. Hillary herself went to Saudi Arabia once and spoke on the subject for crying out loud.

[Vander]

Just going to throw this out there. Fighting for your own rights against what might be your own religion is one thing. Fighting for another's rights against what might be their religion is another thing. Call it Stockholm Syndrome if you want, but there is a belief structure involved.

Not saying this is the reason whatever you perceive to be happening is happening, just throwing it out there.

[Nightshade]

Call it Stockholm Syndrome if you want, but there is a belief structure involved.

Indeed...and it's a nasty backward paternalistic belief system. Can we all agree upon that?

[callmeslick]

correction to above. The speech was in Bejing, but touched on a lot of Islamic world issues:
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeche ... speech.htm

[Nightshade]

correction to above. The speech was in Bejing, but touched on a lot of Islamic world issues:
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeche ... speech.htm

I think Hillary lost all legitimate "feminist" cred when she didn't divorce her unfaithful and extreme womanizer piece of garbage excuse for a husband just to retain a path to ultimate power.

In fact she attacked her husband's victims.

She truly is a piece of work.

[callmeslick]

I think Hillary lost all legitimate "feminist" cred when she didn't divorce her unfaithful and extreme womanizer piece of garbage excuse for a husband just to retain a path to ultimate power.

says you. Of course, no one gave you the right to speak for those who DO call themselves feminists, did they?

In fact she attacked her husband's victims.

actually, that story has been floated and pretty much debunked in the actual press.

She truly is a piece of work.

do you own a mirror?

[Nightshade]

Hillary was very publicly HUMILIATED before the entire world when Bill was caught red handed lying to everyone and cheating on her with Monica Lewinsky.

Anyone with a shred of dignity would have divorced their lying/cheating spouse on the spot.

[callmeslick]

Hillary was very publicly HUMILIATED before the entire world when Bill was caught red handed lying to everyone and cheating on her with Monica Lewinsky.

Anyone with a shred of dignity would have divorced their lying/cheating spouse on the spot.

people do different things, react in different ways and make unique choices. The ability to do so doesn't connote anything beyond PERSONAL FREEDOM, and while you might wish to opine, it's frankly none of your freaking business, and in NO WAY reflects upon anything important.

[Spidey]

I love how you smash other people’s opinions, with your own mighty opinions.

It’s fun to watch….really.

[callmeslick]

most of the time, isn't that what occurs on a message board? I mean, exchange of opinions?

[vision]

ThunderBunny has never been married.

[callmeslick]

who'd have guessed......

[Spidey]

most of the time, isn't that what occurs on a message board? I mean, exchange of opinions?

That’s funny…you never “exchange” opinions…you line item veto them, and replace them with your own.

[callmeslick]

if I am that declarative, facts come along for the trip and you know it. Yes, I offer up a different opinion whenever I encounter one that strikes me as completely off base. Accept it or not, I frankly don't give a ★■◆●. Still, sort of funny that this is all you contribute in this thread. Topic hijack time?

[woodchip]

In fact she attacked her husband's victims.

actually, that story has been floated and pretty much debunked in the actual press. [/quote]

Sorry slick but it appears you are blowing it out your dark side orafice. Unless you can link where it was debunked then once again you a suffering from the vapors:

Later in the interview (Today Show/Matt Lauer), Hillary bluntly issued her threat:

“I think we’re going to find some other things. And I think that when all of this is put into context, and we really look at the people involved here, look at their motivations and look at their backgrounds, look at their past behavior, some folks are going to have a lot to answer for.”

Less than two weeks later, on February 8, former high level Clinton White House operative George Stephanopoulos said on the ABC News Sunday morning talk show This Week that the Clinton administration was threatening to go scorched earth on Clinton’s accusers and investigators by employing the ‘Ellen Rometsch strategy’ should they not back down.

The ‘Ellen Rometsch strategy’ involved blackmailing into silence Clinton accusers, investigators and political opponents by threatening to expose their backgrounds if they did not back off.

She truly is a piece of work.

do you own a mirror?

I suggest slick, before you go denigrating other people, you at least have the the facts to back up what you are saying. As it stands this, along with other statements you made in the past, shows you to be a congenital liar when it come to politics

[callmeslick]

says the guy supporting a 30 year proven liar, racist and business cheat.

[woodchip]

I didn't say it. Again, nice try at deflecting.

[callmeslick]

I didn't say it. Again, nice try at deflecting.

deflecting WHAT? That TB is sort of lame calling other folks names, or accusing others of EXACTLY what he shows himself to be? That was my point with the mirror comment, and I'll stand by it. Nothing to deflect whatsoever. Now, go back to rejecting facts in the name of some sort of ideological test of news sourcing.

[woodchip]

Same try again slick, you have proved nothing only tried proving your point by innuendo.