...which if you really think about it- IS. The Police Chief of El Paso laid it out:
...El Paso Police Chief Greg Allen, who had declined to speak during the news conference, called the Black Lives Matter movement “a radical hate group."
“Black Lives Matter, as far as I am concerned, is a radical hate group,” Allen said. “And for that purpose alone, I think the leadership of this country needs to look a little bit harder at that particular group. The consequences of what we saw in Dallas is due to their efforts.”
Allen is the first black police chief in El Paso's history, according to El Paso Times archives.
what a bunch of un-helpful claptrap. Until this clown, and the likes of Rudy Guiliani, stop spreading hate in the form of lies(BLM is hardly a terrorist group, hell, they don't advocate for violence, ever), we're not going to make progress. It was heartening, however to hear folks as unexpected as Newt Gingrich and Marco Rubio FINALLY admit that white people don't grasp much of what makes black reality in America. That is a HUGE step in dialogue.
"The Party told you to reject all evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
George Orwell---"1984"
Vander wrote:BLM is obviously a group with race as a component of their mission, but how are they "radical" or a "hate" group? Are they inciting violence?
Hmmm. Dunno...
Maybe...
The Protest…
Black-clad protesters gathered in front of Dartmouth Hall, forming a crowd roughly one hundred fifty strong. Ostensibly there to denounce the removal of shirts from a display in Collis, the Black Lives Matter collective began to sing songs and chant their eponymous catchphrase. Not content to merely demonstrate there for the night, the band descended from their high-water mark to march into Baker-Berry Library.
“F*** you, you filthy white f***s!” “F*** you and your comfort!” “F*** you, you racist s***!”
These shouted epithets were the first indication that many students had of the coming storm. The sign-wielding, obscenity-shouting protesters proceeded through the usually quiet backwaters of the library. They surged first through first-floor Berry, then up the stairs to the normally undisturbed floors of the building, before coming back down to the ground floor of Novack.
Throngs of protesters converged around fellow students who had not joined in their long march. They confronted students who bore “symbols of oppression”: “gangster hats” and Beats-brand headphones. The flood of demonstrators self-consciously overstepped every boundary, opening the doors of study spaces with students reviewing for exams. Those who tried to close their doors were harassed further. One student abandoned the study room and ran out of the library. The protesters followed her out of the library, shouting obscenities the whole way.
Students who refused to listen to or join their outbursts were shouted down. “Stand the f*** up!” “You filthy racist white piece of s***!”Men and women alike were pushed and shoved by the group. “If we can’t have it, shut it down!” they cried. Another woman was pinned to a wall by protesters who unleashed their insults, shouting “filthy white b****!” in her face.
In the immediate aftermath of the demonstration, social media was abuzz with comments condemning the protesters for their tactics. Many students who had experienced the protests took advantage of YikYak’s anonymity to air their grievances. Some students reached out to The Dartmouth Review to provide additional details.
An anonymous ‘19 explained that while working on a group project in a private study room, his UGA came in and expressed his virulent disappointment that the he was not joining in the protest. The UGA then demanded that he and the other members of his group project to leave the room and join in.
Another ‘19 recalled clapping after a protester said, “let’s give a round of applause for the beautiful people of color who were here for this protest.” The protester then turned on her saying, “for all of you that are sitting down and applauding right now, ‘we don’t care about you’.”
Of course, the protesters themselves have also spoken out in the aftermath of their march. One woman, identifying herself as one of the protesters in a lengthy post to Facebook, wrote, “we raised hell, we caused discomfort, and we made our voices heard all throughout this campus in the name of standing up for our brothers and sisters across the country who are staring terrorism and assault directly in the face.” She went on to accuse those she thought were insincere in their support for the movement of “faking allyship,” and called the activities an “occupation of Baker Berry.”
If that's an accurate representation, I'd call that hate. Or at least racial anger. Just as you probably wouldn't paint all police officers based on the actions of the few, I would hope you would give the same consideration to BLM.
that's violent. Hardly radical. RADICAL refers to their ideology as much as their approach. Still, by and large(by a huge margin) BLM rallies have been peaceful, accepting of support from non-black people, and if anything urging an END to violence of all types(you seem to always get a few folks calling for World Peace in there when you see the marches on TV). Just because you can cherry pick events like the small protest at Dartmouth and then attempt to tar and feather an entire movement with VERY valid reasons for existence isn't helpful. As I noted earlier, it is good to finally hear white, southern politicians, some of them Republicans as well as Democrats, finally note the fact that white people don't understand the viewpoint. That is a major start to a dialog, admitting that you'll never know the inherent fears black people face in our society.
So, NS/TB......what makes the call for an end to killing black people by law enforcement radical in any way? Seems long overdue to me......
"The Party told you to reject all evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
George Orwell---"1984"
callmeslick wrote:that's violent. Hardly radical. RADICAL refers to their ideology as much as their approach. Still, by and large(by a huge margin) BLM rallies have been peaceful, accepting of support from non-black people, and if anything urging an END to violence of all types(you seem to always get a few folks calling for World Peace in there when you see the marches on TV). Just because you can cherry pick events like the small protest at Dartmouth and then attempt to tar and feather an entire movement with VERY valid reasons for existence isn't helpful.
So nobody in BLM actually represents BLM?
. "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun"- Mao Zedong
oh, scary. Unless, somehow that guy Cooper they're talking about in the bottom line on the screen is BLM, hardly rising to anything past an angry exchange. I've seen worse at Trump rallies and Sprint Car races, and don't get me started on Eagles games up in Philly. Come on, if that is getting you all wee-weed up, suck it up, buttercup......it's an angry world out there.
"The Party told you to reject all evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
George Orwell---"1984"
callmeslick wrote:oh, scary. Unless, somehow that guy Cooper they're talking about in the bottom line on the screen is BLM, hardly rising to anything past an angry exchange. I've seen worse at Trump rallies and Sprint Car races, and don't get me started on Eagles games up in Philly. Come on, if that is getting you all wee-weed up, suck it up, buttercup......it's an angry world out there.
On Wednesday, July 6th, Purdue University summoned Joshua Nash to meet with the Director of Student Assistance in regards to a “comment on Facebook.” Nash believes this meeting is due to a post where he said that “Black Lives Matter is trash because they do not really care about black lives. They simply care about making money and disrupting events for dead people.”
Nash is a biology major — who is gay and refers to himself as a “dangerous faggot” in his Twitter bio, a reference to conservative commentator Milo Yiannopoulos — and claims he has never faced disciplinary action with his school before.
“Attempting to silence students with subjective controversial opinions is completely and utterly absurd, and a direct attack on free speech,” Nash told me in an interview. He also says he found the disruption of a gay pride event in Toronto disrespectful to those who lost their lives in Orlando.
In addition to the reaction from Purdue, Nash found himself the target of multiple online threats from fellow students, some of whom he says called him a “dirt racist conservative scumbbag [sic],” and promised “if i ever see u on campus i am going to cut u till i see blood.” Nash reported these comments to Facebook, the university administration, and filed a police report.
. "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun"- Mao Zedong
by throwing up BS smokescreens around the true intent of BLM, and the issue from which that group sprung, you are essentially attempting to negate the reality that unarmed, or at the very least subdued suspects are being executed on our streets by the police and no one is doing much to address the matter. Oh, and some others like to obscure with 'data' which shows the rate of shootings for whites is nearly the same. That isn't the issue, it is that the death of black young men has resulted in a FAR higher rate of exoneration.
"The Party told you to reject all evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
George Orwell---"1984"
no, there were no 'moments of silence' for the cop killer. Moreover, no one is reported to have so much as suggested one. No, 11 cities are or were not on the verge of race riots. Lies, lies and more lies from a lie machine. This guy sums it up well. If you vote for Trump you are a traitor to everything this nation stands for.
"The Party told you to reject all evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
George Orwell---"1984"
Spidey wrote:I don’t believe BLM is a radical hate group, but they sure show some signs of moving in that direction.
I think you do hear frustration, understandable to a great extent. I'd be surprised, based on what I've seen from the local activists, to see much 'radical' as in violent from them. Hate, well, that remains to be seen........
"The Party told you to reject all evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
George Orwell---"1984"
if things don't change, yes, in some towns. That is what overthrowing an oppressive government looks like. You see, everything you've stated NS goes on the assumption that there isn't a VERY VALID root cause for anger in the African American communities within a lot of American towns and cities. Sorry, but there is. Now, how do we establish the dialogue to end the situation? I gave the Wichita example. We need more of that.
"The Party told you to reject all evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
George Orwell---"1984"
callmeslick wrote:if things don't change, yes, in some towns. That is what overthrowing an oppressive government looks like. You see, everything you've stated NS goes on the assumption that there isn't a VERY VALID root cause for anger in the African American communities within a lot of American towns and cities. Sorry, but there is. Now, how do we establish the dialogue to end the situation? I gave the Wichita example. We need more of that.
First off this is not what overthrowing a govt. looks like. A couple of deranged people does not a revolution make. The problem can be traced back to the St Louis shooting of the "Gentile Giant" who was not gentle. This is where BLM started and became the pet of Obama and the DOJ. The continuing sympathy by Lynch keeps promoting BLM which encourages sick minded people to commit acts that are nothing more than mass murder. Keep contributing to the situation slick by stating things that are not true. I just have to wonder what the end game is of promoting cop hate.
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It would be cool if you could just once say something like "killing these unarmed black people is bad." (though, I suppose the guy in Minn wasn't unarmed)
I believe I posted that the Minn shooting the officer should be charged with murder. Don't know enough about the other shootings to comment (I'll try reading up). I do now the shooting of the cops is murder and I have to wonder if all the hate being stirred up by BLM et al has contributed to the mayhem
Liberal speak: "Convenience for you means control for him, free and the price is astronomical, you're the product for sale". Neil Oliver
Leftist are Evil, and Liberals keep voting for them. Dennis Prager
A mouse might be in a cookie jar.... but he is not a cookie" ... Casper Ten Boom
If your life revolves around the ability to have an abortion, what does that say about your life? Anonymous
The shooting in Minnesota is actually the one with the most understandable circumstances to me. Guy says "I have a gun" and makes a move. Not saying there weren't other factors involved or that it was correct to shoot they guy, but if I'm telling a cop I have a gun, I'm not moving until he tells me to.
I do now the shooting of the cops is murder and I have to wonder if all the hate being stirred up by BLM et al has contributed to the mayhem
Of course murdering cops is murder. The problem is that cops murdering citizens isn't always murder.
BLM for all intents and purposes is a hashtag. There maybe some core promotion, but it's basically just individuals claiming identification with it. It's not an organization with a leadership hierarchy that can impose or enforce rules of conduct.
BLM contributes to "the mayhem" by justifying the outrage these cop murderers likely feel. But the thing is, it's justifiably outrageous! Should people not be outraged by cops murdering people because there are those who would wrongly act on the outrage?
Funny, but we got a nice long lecture from a certain person about what it means to be responsible for inciting hate and violence…oh but of course those in question were white.
in an ideal world, we could all just reason it out, but all that is being suggested that there is cause for outrage, and that outrage should have LONG AGO been shared by everyone in the society. That is wasn't leads to further outrage and frustration. This isn't about anyone inciting violence. BLM clearly isn't at any level. That some cite them in their violence doesn't mean they are.
"The Party told you to reject all evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
George Orwell---"1984"
It worked in Wichita, Kansas, but in Oakland it’s a different story. A story has gone viral about Black Lives Matter protesters who joined law enforcement for a community cookout. The barbecue was seen as a way to start dialogue between activists and to help ease the racial tension that has gripped the nation amid high-profile police shootings and the targeted shootings of officers in Dallas and Baton Rouge.
“Barbecue’s aren’t going to stop the brutality that black folks are facing. A barbecue is definitely not going to stop this blockade. And as a radical-black farmer from East Oakland— I eat pigs, I don’t eat with them."
