well, the traffic WAS bad

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Sat Aug 20, 2016 5:43 am

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/19/ ... affic.html

couple this with the reports that his security tossed out at least one person of color(South Asian) who was a supporter until getting tossed out, down in Charlotte, and one can start to grasp what a true train-wreck the Trump campaign has become. Ironically, I had three friends who DID get in at Charlotte, the other night. All are white, but one is Muslim and had been tossed out of two separate Trump rallies during the primaries.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Sat Aug 20, 2016 6:43 am

Still harping away.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Sat Aug 20, 2016 6:52 am

actually, still laughing my ass off at the clown.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Sat Aug 20, 2016 8:38 am

Wouldn't surprise me they were Dem plants. See, I can play this game too.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Sat Aug 20, 2016 8:44 am

I'm sure THIS was a Dem plant, too......looks like your boy might be a NEGATIVE billionaire, with ties to Chinese banks, Wall Street and 'unknown creditors'(think Russia). This report will be his last straw.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ ... li=BBnbcA1

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Sat Aug 20, 2016 8:59 am

woodchip wrote:Wouldn't surprise me they were Dem plants.

who were you referring to, in plural, by the way? Trump and Pence? You may be right, if so, but we won't know for years.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Sat Aug 20, 2016 1:14 pm

The writer has it about right. It really isn't about a Dem plant, it was about forming a new media entity at the end of the process. The last thing the Donald wants is to actually win and do the job of POTUS:http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/20/opini ... r=msft_msn

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Sat Aug 20, 2016 3:11 pm

Trump's security goons kicked out an non-white teenaged, dyed in the wool, enthusiastic Trump supporter from one of Trump's recent rallies. The very same rally where Trump talks about him being inclusive to non-whites. Now Gary Johnson's got this kid's vote.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Sat Aug 20, 2016 3:57 pm

Except TC, you are only listening to one side of the story:

CHARLOTTE (CNN) — A man who identified himself as half-Indian was escorted out of a Donald Trump rally on Thursday out of concern that he was a protester, but the man insisted he was a Trump supporter and said he feels that he was racially profiled.

Jake Anantha, an 18-year-old from Charlotte, was approached by a member of Trump’s security team and then ushered out by police. He was told that he resembled another man who had previously disrupted Trump rallies.

So the security guys made a mistake. I wonder how many people got removed from a Hillary event because security was suspicious of them? Oh...thats right, the news doesn't report such things about Hillary Clintons events.

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:20 pm

heh. my trump to english translator must be broken because all I heard was 'lie lie lie lie lie lie'. Or maybe it's working as designed.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Sun Aug 21, 2016 6:26 am

Wonder why Trumps security is understandably nervous?:

The ‘protestors’ morphed into rent-a-mobs, and then they became ‘rent-a-thugs’ looking for a beat-down. It was nothing more than Obama/Hillary’s lawlessness and disrespect for decency playing out on the streets of Minneapolis. The only idea the left seems to understand is physical violence used to intimidate political opposition. These brute thugs who attacked Donald Trump’s vehicle demonstrate exactly why we need to elect Donald Trump as our next President of the United States, so we can see respect for the rule of law return again in this country.”

Funny how we don't hear about mobs attacking Hillary. But hey, keep it up as it will only help Trump get elected.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Sun Aug 21, 2016 6:32 am

Trump is NOT going to be elected. Period. It's brain-dead obvious. Having prominent neo-nazi/white supremecist advocates running his campaign isn't going to suddenly make that any less obvious.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Sun Aug 21, 2016 6:39 am

HaHaHa...you are feeling the pain.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Sun Aug 21, 2016 6:43 am

only from laughing about how easy Trump made this for the Dems to regain control of EVERYTHING. Donors are, by reports this morning, joining me in focusing on the Senate/House campaigns(still have not given a cent to Hillary, if it makes you happier....likely not).

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Sun Aug 21, 2016 6:50 am

Slicks deflecting away from Dem thugs...priceless.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:11 am

where did I defend thugs? Putting made-up words in my mouth for the second time this week, I see. You are a bald-faced liar, Woody.

No, but I will suggest that so long as THESE people are happy with the Baboon's campaign, you aren't going to see blacks running to you:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ ... li=BBnb7Kz

what's more, they are in CHARGE of the campaign, now.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:22 am

meanwhile, Bill's checking out decorations and artwork and Hillary.....
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ ... li=BBnbcA1

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:14 pm

woodchip wrote:Except TC, you are only listening to one side of the story:

CHARLOTTE (CNN) — A man who identified himself as half-Indian was escorted out of a Donald Trump rally on Thursday out of concern that he was a protester, but the man insisted he was a Trump supporter and said he feels that he was racially profiled.

Jake Anantha, an 18-year-old from Charlotte, was approached by a member of Trump’s security team and then ushered out by police. He was told that he resembled another man who had previously disrupted Trump rallies.
So the security guys made a mistake. I wonder how many people got removed from a Hillary event because security was suspicious of them? Oh...thats right, the news doesn't report such things about Hillary Clintons events.

Ya think Trump's goons would have profiled a white person who looked similar to some protestor? Probably not because they wouldn't have been looking for white people. However, in their zeal to protect an ★■◆● who likes to rile up his base to do violence against those who disagree with him, Trump has lost a supporter in the process. If that former supporter tells his friends not to vote for Trump, it snowballs into a lot of votes Trump won't get. And in Trump's case, that's probably a good thing.

However, you apparently don't watch the news, or you're too selective about what you watch. There have been protests by BLM and animal rights activists at Clinton fundraisers and rallies.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/04/politics/ ... index.html

There was even a "fart in" protest by Sander's supporters at the DNC.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/201 ... -dnc-gates

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:30 pm

as I pointed out, the same crack security crew let in at least TWO people I know of(one a Muslim of light complexion) who had been thrown out of two Trump rallies in the spring. I've seen the pictures of the event.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:32 pm

callmeslick wrote:meanwhile, Bill's checking out decorations and artwork and Hillary.....
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ ... li=BBnbcA1

The myth of Hillary's lead over Trump, aka, the myth of Carter's 8 point lead over Reagan, which turned into a 10 point landslide for Reagan.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2012/ ... eagan.html

However, Redstate.com is far more pessimistic about Trump this time and doesn't believe he can win no matter what.

http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/ ... ld-reagan/

But remember, twice in the past, the second banana has actually won the election, Bush W. in 2000 and Reagan in 1980. It's rare, but it's happened, both times with the Republican candidate. It will probably come down to the debates and third party candidate spoilers that ultimately decide who's the winner.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/111451/Late- ... pened.aspx

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:32 pm

tunnelcat wrote: However, you apparently don't watch the news, or you're too selective about what you watch. There have been protests by BLM and animal rights activists at Clinton fundraisers and rallies.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/04/politics/ ... index.html

There was even a "fart in" protest by Sander's supporters at the DNC.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/201 ... -dnc-gates

how many times does Woody make it obvious that he NEVER actually sees the news, but only regurgitates the digested bile of Breitbart, InfoWars, Fox and the rest. There were CONSTANT, ongoing protests through the first two days of the Dem convention, both in and outside the hall.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:38 pm

callmeslick wrote:
tunnelcat wrote: However, you apparently don't watch the news, or you're too selective about what you watch. There have been protests by BLM and animal rights activists at Clinton fundraisers and rallies.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/04/politics/ ... index.html

There was even a "fart in" protest by Sander's supporters at the DNC.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/201 ... -dnc-gates
how many times does Woody make it obvious that he NEVER actually sees the news, but only regurgitates the digested bile of Breitbart, InfoWars, Fox and the rest. There were CONSTANT, ongoing protests through the first two days of the Dem convention, both in and outside the hall.

Yea, I know. Woody filters the news. But hell, I probably would have protested her ass if she'd come to our little unimportant town to blither her elitist liberal nonsense. That says something about her when it comes from me.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:41 pm

Removed repeat post.

vision · Post by **vision** » Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:45 pm

tunnelcat wrote:... the myth of Carter's 8 point lead over Reagan, which turned into a 10 point landslide for Reagan.

Please stop with the ridiculous Carter/Regan comparisons. These are completely different campaigns. Regan switched leads with Carter several times for months before the election. Their race was much closer than this. Trump got past Clinton once for about 24 hours. There is really no comparison, unless you want to compare Trump to Regan, ugh.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:53 pm

I'm looking at RCP and see Trump in the lead twice and tied twice. If trump is as bad as everyone says, then those occurances should never have happened. If you look in LA Times you see a totally different story. Hillary better hope CA doesn't got to Trump:

http://www.latimes.com/politics/

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:55 pm

read the Princeton Electoral College Histogram(I just thoughtully bumped it for you, Woody). Clinton's chance of winning is 96%. That was higher than the winners probability the week before the election in the last 3 Presidentials.

By the way, look at what the LA Times poll consists of. They identify 3000 registered voters, nationwide, with no real selection based on demographics, local or anything to resemble the projected electorate. Then, they ask them every 2 or 3 days who they favor. They also ask a lot of other questions and get a feel for the sense of flow. Nothing more or less. Worth noting, those 3000 people OVERWHELMINGLY feel that Clinton will be the next President. See page two of the data.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Sun Aug 21, 2016 3:23 pm

Typical nit pic a poll not favorable to your side. Why am I not surprised.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Sun Aug 21, 2016 3:36 pm

It is VERY favorable to Hillary, once you read the parameters, actually. That was what I was pointing out.

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Sun Aug 21, 2016 3:45 pm

And I see RCP has Hillary sinking like a rock. Be interesting to see what the result is this week when her ailing health keeps her from ever showing up in LA, yet she can take time to party with the big O.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Sun Aug 21, 2016 3:48 pm

you're going to have to join the Donald on a long vacation in a couple of months.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Sun Aug 21, 2016 4:13 pm

vision wrote:
tunnelcat wrote:... the myth of Carter's 8 point lead over Reagan, which turned into a 10 point landslide for Reagan.
Please stop with the ridiculous Carter/Regan comparisons. These are completely different campaigns. Regan switched leads with Carter several times for months before the election. Their race was much closer than this. Trump got past Clinton once for about 24 hours. There is really no comparison, unless you want to compare Trump to Regan, ugh.

Just sayin', don't count your chickens before they hatch. We've got a couple of months for this mess of an election to get resolved. We'll see after the debates.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Sun Aug 21, 2016 5:03 pm

I told you when I felt it was over, TC, so I'm wedded to that date along with predicted outcome(same I've had since last Winter...Trump loses to anyone the Dems ran). Clinton's crew won't take a damn thing for granted, and will be(like the Obama model before) be making calls even as it looks certain they've won, and will be knocking on doors and calling likely voters like mad those last two weeks. That, even if things were polling closer, will be what kills Trump alone. He has no ground organization. That gets you nothing but zealots to the polls, with the random straggler. When you are pushing folks off the sidelines into your camp, it takes a planned, cohesive ground game of contact, transportation and regional coordination. That is how you win. I've watched it done right, and I've seen it done really badly. I've never seen it be non-existant going into September.

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:28 pm

woodchip wrote:And I see RCP has Hillary sinking like a rock. Be interesting to see what the result is this week when her ailing health keeps her from ever showing up in LA, yet she can take time to party with the big O.

Well, I'd say Trump is the one in trouble. David Duke has more support among blacks than Donald Trump.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politic ... 13952.html

Jeff250 · Post by **Jeff250** » Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:28 am

tunnelcat wrote:But remember, twice in the past, the second banana has actually won the election, Bush W. in 2000 and Reagan in 1980. It's rare, but it's happened, both times with the Republican candidate. It will probably come down to the debates and third party candidate spoilers that ultimately decide who's the winner.

Gore did win the popular vote though, and he also would have won the electoral college if not for poorly designed butterfly ballots in Palm Beach, Florida.

callmeslick · Post by **callmeslick** » Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:22 am

take heart, Trump fans!! The Donald has been taking in some donations, so he'll no doubt spend them wisely.

Or not:
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/scam-al ... o.facebook

how's that hat looking to you, Woody?

Tunnelcat · Post by **Tunnelcat** » Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:04 am

Trump's got them coming AND going.

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Tue Aug 23, 2016 6:51 pm

He's broke! Again!

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:42 pm

callmeslick wrote:take heart, Trump fans!! The Donald has been taking in some donations, so he'll no doubt spend them wisely.

Or not:
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/scam-al ... o.facebook

how's that hat looking to you, Woody?

Compared to Hillarys pay to play clinton foundation and giving access to her as Sec of State puts Trumps rent business in the realm of non news. So you want a president that can be paid a few million to gain access? Yeah lets focus on Trump raising his rent

vision · Post by **vision** » Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:39 pm

woodchip wrote:So you want a president that can be paid a few million to gain access?

Define "gain access."

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Wed Aug 24, 2016 5:16 am

vision wrote:
woodchip wrote:So you want a president that can be paid a few million to gain access?
Define "gain access."

Access like this:

Donors who were granted time with Clinton included an internationally known economist who asked for her help as the Bangladesh government pressured him to resign from a nonprofit bank he ran; a Wall Street executive who sought Clinton's help with a visa problem; and Estee Lauder executives who were listed as meeting with Clinton while her department worked with the firm's corporate charity to counter gender-based violence in South Africa.