veep debate thoughts

[callmeslick]

in no particular order.....I'm sleepy, and waiting for the dog to finish in the yard before bed:

1. Pence won on style. Oddly, he was less attack dog than often, and Kaine was clearly sent out in attack dog mode, possibly with a double cappucino, which seemed to wear off midway through to some extent.
2. I guess everyone agreed to the format, but the short time per segment basically cut both of them short just when they were getting into gear
3. You really didn't get to much about the readiness of each of the two, but both were forced to defend the running mate, more than usual, it seemed.
4. The faith question was well handled from two clear ideological perspectives, by both men. At that point, I was, frankly, proud that both of them had
risen in US politics, as they both seemed to be profoundly decent men.
5. I don't think this changed many minds, and was sort of shocked to see the CNN independants focus group go to Kaine so heavily. Then, I realized
that they were Virginians, so maybe that mattered.
6. For years here, I've been begging the US to finally have a national election around the fundamentals of modern conservative and modern liberal thinking, using those terms in broad fashion. I openly suggested that I'd like to see a Cruz v Biden election a year ago, with that hope of a REAL debate, on some fundamental sources of divide and unproductive national direction. Now, I'd very easily see Mike Pence as an excellent presenter, probably far more personally palatable than Cruz, of the Conservative side. He might have set himself up, for which I now understand and appreciate his decision to run. Remember, this is a guy projected to lose his re-election bid in Indiana. He may have seriously prolonged his career tonight. He didn't likely tug many heartstrings with the people he and Trump need to pull onto the boat, but won friends who will donate heavily down the road towards 2020.

[vision]

1. Pence won on style. Oddly, he was less attack dog than often, and Kaine was clearly sent out in attack dog mode, possibly with a double cappucino, which seemed to wear off midway through to some extent.

I'll take your word for it because Pence put me to sleep. I couldn't sit through his slow meandering. Kaine was well rehearsed and knocked down target after target. The debate was over for me before halftime, and I turned it off.

[Top Gun]

Frankly I'm amazed that people actually watch a debate over what Adams famously put as "the most insignificant office that ever the invention of man contrived or his imagination conceived." Then again you couldn't pay me enough to watch the main event either, so maybe I'm an outlier.

[callmeslick]

to be honest, I watched the debate while tying trout flies for a shop in PA. And, I'm a political geek............

[woodchip]

The big loser was the moderator. Once again we see a mod who thinks it a good idea to use their position to attack the republican candidate. The Dems didn't like it when Matt Lauer did it to Hillary Clinton, yet they'll write glowing accounts about this debate moderator. What a sad spectacle. I have to wonder why the RNC continues to allow biased reporters be a moderator.

[callmeslick]

The big loser was the moderator. Once again we see a mod who thinks it a good idea to use their position to attack the republican candidate.

how did she do that? I didn't even really notice her doing too much past telling them to move on when they were halfway through fleshing out points. That was annoying, but I don't blame her. Somebody agreed to that goofy 10 minute segment format. Oh, and you just had a Presidential debate hosted by a 20 year GOP registrant. What the hell are you seeing and what would you want them to do differently?