Russian mouthpiece Breitbart

[callmeslick]

.....turns the propagana weapons on Germany now. Is there any doubt they purposely flooded the US with bogus propaganda so that Trump could eke out a victory?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/%e2 ... li=BBnb7Kz

[Tunnelcat]

Not to derail the thread, but this also goes along the lines of what a manipulating autocrat like Trump will be like as our president. The attacks on the U.S. press are just beginning, specifically NBC and MSNBC, even though it was the Washington Post who was the first to report the details about that leaked intel briefing a day before Trump actually got to listen to it. The very network who skewers Trump constantly on SNL, which must really stick in his craw, so he's out attacking a town messenger he hates and not bothering to look for the origin of the leak. None of what the Post or NBC got was classified either. I'm sure that there are a few ticked off people in our intelligence services who are taking some exception to Trump's Putin schmoozing and perhaps are trying to the screws to him behind the scenes. Never piss off the CIA, even if you're president.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-secu ... aks-to-nbc

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... story.html

[Nightshade]

[Top Gun]

It really is amusing to see the party that has always been all RAWR COMMUNISM turning into a quivering pile of jelly at the mere thought of taking Russia to task for election interference.

[Nightshade]

It really is amusing to see the party that has always been all RAWR COMMUNISM turning into a quivering pile of jelly at the mere thought of taking Russia to task for election interference.

"Russia" may have hacked our systems...but how has that changed over the years? Everyone hacks everyone else's computers.

It didn't become a national security concern at all- since the Obama administration didn't seem to care...that is, UNTIL the DNC's dirty laundry came to light.

Suddenly it's an 'act of war.'

[sigma]

Russia can do whatever she wants, but maybe no special need to provoke further? Currently, the United States more like clown and not serious partners. Maybe Donald trump will be able to change the American ideology that actually had to stay in the 20th century. Joint economic projects, here's what us need. Although it because I'm such a positive and tolerant to the Americans, while the other Russians will apply to Americans sometimes very, very differently.
We need to do something, so we can live in harmony and peace, that all was well. And a complete ★■◆●ing for everyone on the planet can be done in less than 10 minutes.

[woodchip]

I think this headline pretty much sums things up:

In Trump's ongoing feud about Russia, he says those opposed to better relations 'fools'

[callmeslick]

[woodchip]

And if Clinton won would you be posting how the Clinton foundation accepted money from govt officials that condone female genital mutilation or treat the female as a second class citizen? I suspect not.

[sigma]

I think this headline pretty much sums things up:

In Trump's ongoing feud about Russia, he says those opposed to better relations 'fools'

Russia has a lot quite of smart people. You never see them in the media. I talked with them, it's terribly clever people, I'm a pathetic kitten compared to them.

[Tunnelcat]

And if Clinton won would you be posting how the Clinton foundation accepted money from govt officials that condone female genital mutilation or treat the female as a second class citizen? I suspect not.

Don't ignore that the Republicans seem to have lost all integrity once they got control of the WHOLE candy store. In order to hold their noses and support their elected madman of an autocrat who's going against almost everything they've ever stood for in the past, they're having to twist themselves into monumental pretzels to ignore, or approve of, what Trump is doing or proposing once he's president. The ONLY 2 Republicans I've seen willing to come out and voice their concerns about Trump's connections to Russia and the outright disdain for our intelligence services are McCain and Graham. At least they're sticking to form. Most of the rest have become nothing slobbering butt kissing yes men in order to suck up to Trump.

[Nightshade]

The ONLY 2 Republicans I've seen willing to come out and voice their concerns about Trump's connections to Russia and the outright disdain for our intelligence services are McCain and Graham. At least they're sticking to form. Most of the rest have become nothing slobbering butt kissing yes men in order to suck up to Trump.

Yes, the two remaining warmongering neocons.

Again I say- where was all of this "concern" when millions of government workers' vital personal data was STOLEN over a year ago?

You remember that story, right?

Chinese hackers are suspected of carrying out a "massive breach" of the personal data of nearly four million US government workers, officials said.

The Office of Personnel Management (OPM) confirmed that both current and past employees had been affected.

The breach could potentially affect every federal agency, officials said.

US officials said the hackers were believed to be based in China. Beijing responded by calling such claims "irresponsible".

Where was the "act of war" talk back then? Nothing... *crickets*

Oh- but now the DNC's e-mails were "hacked" by Russia- it's WAR.

Gee...that private server doesn't seem to have been such a great idea now, right?

[Krom]

The Chinese hack has no bearing or impact on the US election process.

[Nightshade]

The Chinese hack has no bearing or impact on the US election process.

I see, so-

The breach could potentially affect every federal agency, officials said.

...is meaningless then.

[Top Gun]

You really can't see the difference between a breach of HR personnel files and an attempt to directly interfere in the US electoral process?

I think this headline pretty much sums things up:

In Trump's ongoing feud about Russia, he says those opposed to better relations 'fools'

Ah right, the individual who's actively hiding his massive financial ties to Russia labels the rest of the world "fools" for questioning his motivations.

[Nightshade]

You really can't see the difference between a breach of HR personnel files and an attempt to directly interfere in the US electoral process?

So personal information theft that could be used as ID theft, fake credential creation and access to ANY part of government including the most sensitive military secrets, essential infrastructure and/or future use for blackmail isn't an 'act of war?'

[Spidey]

You really can't see the difference between a breach of HR personnel files and an attempt to directly interfere in the US electoral process?

I can see the difference, but I can also see the political slant here, considering that both events are very serious.

[Nightshade]

[callmeslick]

please. Buckwheat has a vocabulary lesson for you, NS:

[woodchip]

So slick, by your reasoning Merkle should be declaring war on the US because we hacked her phone?

[callmeslick]

should have been treated as a hostile act by an ALLY. Sort of like Israel spying on us for 40 years. Russia is not an ALLY. You do understand that, right?

[sigma]

Russia is not an ALLY. You do understand that, right?

Russia is a cat that walks where it wants. You are constantly on the edge of the abyss, insolent American lemurs.

[callmeslick]

spare us the goofy empty propaganda. Obama has it right, you do not live in a 'major' nation, just a wannabe, at this point.

[Grendel]

State sponsored hacking goes back to at least WWII, if you don't have your ducks in a row by now (aka cyber security) it's nobody's fault but your own. All the mouth flapping lately is just a distraction.

[woodchip]

spare us the goofy empty propaganda. Obama has it right, you do not live in a 'major' nation, just a wannabe, at this point.

Germans in WW2 thought the same thing (referring to slicks major nation ignorance)

[callmeslick]

just worry about us not becoming a fascist power, Woody, ok?

[sigma]

Please, as little as possible mention of the Germans. I understand it all. Despite the fact that it took 76 years after the war, despite the fact that my friends are some German pilots of the charter of the European Aviation. But whenever possible, I kill a German, just because he is German. Once there was a possibility, but I do not even know why I regretted him. ★■◆●

[callmeslick]

we have a plan to make your nation relevant. At least some of us do:

[sigma]

In my opinion, even the prostitutes in the White house in Washington understand the stuff that you're talking about. There's nothing you can come up with smarter?

[Tunnelcat]

sigma, I think that picture slick posted is exactly what Putin is thinking. Why else would a smart autocratic leader like Putin want to build a relationship with an idiot, clueless, thin-skinned businessman like Donald Trump if it wasn't for the greater purpose of furthering Russia's status in the world? Trump will make that all too easy for Putin and Putin would have to be a clueless idiot to not take advantage of the situation.

[callmeslick]

don't know, TC, if you've ever had the chance to see how the OG's operate, but Putin/Trump is just the same relationship as a mob crew boss and a guy in hock to the books. They'll tell him to jump, he'll either ask 'how high', or the game gets ugly for him, fast.

[Tunnelcat]

Putin used to be in the KGB. He's got the smarts and the know-how. He's cagey. Trump's nothing but coddled businessman who has absolutely no idea about how the spook world and international foreign relations work. In fact, he's at odds with our own intelligence agencies and he isn't even president yet. All he knows is how to make a deal and look great at it. If he doesn't have the full picture, which he doesn't and he won't, he's going to get pwnd.

[Top Gun]

Still taking the under on two years before he's impeached. Or just shot.

[woodchip]

we have a plan to make your nation relevant. At least some of us do:

So the Bush poodle metaphor is still alive in the Dems playbook.

[Top Gun]

If the shoe and/or anal cavity fits...

[Nightshade]

Still taking the under on two years before he's impeached. Or just shot.

You're talking like a white supremacist regarding Obama's first two years in office.

[Top Gun]

Except that Obama didn't demonstrate any inherent unfitness for office outside the minds of conspiracy nuts and/or orange-haired idiots. He displayed no staggering influence of the niceties of international relations, freely shared his financial obligations, and didn't appoint incompetents hell-bent on dismantling the very departments they will oversee. I'm seriously counting down the months until he bumbles his way into something so blatantly illegal that even the sackless kowtowing Republicans in Congress will have no choice but to move for his removal from office.