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If you and your kind hadn't been such massive fuckups on election day, we wouldn't need to have this conversation.woodchip wrote:More and worse obsession with Trump than TB with Muslims. Why don't you check my newest post and get paid for agitating.
As usual, your reply replete with gutter based language, falls short of what actually happened. I predicted this years ago and since you have your blinder limited protection on, let me explain it once again. As I said, Obama was such a narrow idealog and racist that pushed our country in a direction it did not want to go, he in fact and all those fawning voters with the help of a equally fawning press, set the stage for Donald Trump.Top Gun wrote:If you and your kind hadn't been such massive fuckups on election day, we wouldn't need to have this conversation.woodchip wrote:More and worse obsession with Trump than TB with Muslims. Why don't you check my newest post and get paid for agitating.
No. Lewis just did to Trump what that birther Trump did to Obama, for 6 years, calling the president an illegitimate president. You'll also notice that Lewis didn't say the election was illegitimate, which conservatives have been conflating on all the news shows as an equal statement. Besides, Trump needs to grow up, be a better man by growing a spine and staying above it all and quit reacting to insults with pathetic tweets made at 3:00AM like a 6 year old.Spidey wrote:Lewis throws the first insult...but Trump is the bad guy.
This is a supreme level of bull★■◆● and you know it. There is no rational definition of the term whereby Obama can be construed as remotely "racist." It takes especially big stones for a white guy to label our first black president as such when his own anointed candidate is the darling of alt-right nutjobs and people with pointy white hoods buried in their closets. And that "ideologue," as you label him, would qualify as moderate at best and flat-out conservative at worst in any other political spectrum than our own ridiculously right-skewing one.woodchip wrote: As usual, your reply replete with gutter based language, falls short of what actually happened. I predicted this years ago and since you have your blinder limited protection on, let me explain it once again. As I said, Obama was such a narrow idealog and racist that pushed our country in a direction it did not want to go, he in fact and all those fawning voters with the help of a equally fawning press, set the stage for Donald Trump.
You've been doing an absolute cheerleading routine for Trump for the past two years, so spare me. And anyone who puts the terms "logical" and "Trump" in the same sentence has no business using that term.I could see, where most all of you could not, that Trump was the antithesis of Obama. Trump being diametrically opposed to Obama and not afraid to fight back when the press and the Dems tried to destroy him in their usual and predictable manner, struck a cord with a large portion of the electorate. I don't think you'll find in any of my posts where I was a rah rah boy for Trump. I simply pointed out Trump was the polar opposite to Obama and thus was a focal point for all those disaffected voters. In short he was logical choice in the primaries and stood a good chance to win the general election.
Yeah man, ensuring that the nation's economy didn't utterly disintegrate into a black hole and extending health insurance to millions of Americans totally qualify as "inept." Do tell, what competence has Trump shown in his life? Presiding over a string of failed business ventures, utterly stiffing any number of contractors, and somehow managing less of a return on his inheritance than if he had stuck it in a mutual fund and left it alone for a few decades? Phew, what a shining beacon of success!Now TB, if you can stand to have a actual discussion instead of your usual knee jerk reply to my post, let look at what at the veracity of your post. My counter is this. If the voters who voted in Obama couldn't see of incredibly inept Obama is, how blindly the press promoted a paper bag simple because Obama is black, how the DNC could back such a man and then compound their mistakes by backing Hillary...is what really set up the condition for Trump to win.
I like how you're ignoring that, even considering the incompetence of Hillary's end-game campaign, she still won the popular vote by over two million voters. So do tell, in what universe are Democrats the ones in trouble? The only demographic the Republican party still holds sway over are older, low-educated white voters. African-Americans, HIspanics, and millennials all vote strongly, if not overwhelmingly, Democratic. The GOP has no conceivable medium- to long-term future unless it breaks its myopic focus on an ever-dwindling group. As someone on another forum I frequent put it, Cthulhu always swings to the left. 2018 is going to be one hell of a midterm backlash.There is nothing wrong with the Trump voters, no matter how colorfully you paint them. What was wrong were the forces on the Dems side who picked people to run the country that the voters either saw as inept after 8 years and compounded by a candidate (Hillary) that even a significant portion of the Dem voters didn't want. All this set the stage for Trump to win. Of course TG, you'll blow this off in your usual manner because you and people who voted for Hillary, will keep wearing their blinders. Until you take them off, the Dems will become ever more dis-organised and lose more power. Your only hope is; Trump and the republicans royally screw up. The more your side fights the election results, the more the voters will see your side as something to avoid. The smart thing would to be less vociferous against Trump and look more like you are helping the president to improve America. I'm not holding my breath.
That's getting old woody. Calling the messenger something he's actually been a victim of is an old redirection and manipulation tactic. It's called the "blame game".woodchip wrote:As usual, your reply replete with gutter based language, falls short of what actually happened. I predicted this years ago and since you have your blinder limited protection on, let me explain it once again. As I said, Obama was such a narrow idealog and racist that pushed our country in a direction it did not want to go, he in fact and all those fawning voters with the help of a equally fawning press, set the stage for Donald Trump.
