Why the Democrat Party is Doomed

For discussion of life's issues: current events, social trends and personal opinions.

Moderators: Tunnelcat, Jeff250

Post Reply
User avatar
Nightshade
DBB Master
DBB Master
Posts: 5138
Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2001 2:01 am
Location: Planet Earth, USA
Contact:

Why the Democrat Party is Doomed

Post by Nightshade »

Posted by Julian Assange:
1. The Democratic establishment has vortexed the party's narrative energy into hysteria about Russia (a state with a lower GDP than South Korea). It is starkly obvious that were it not for this hysteria insurgent narratives of the type promoted by Bernie Sanders would rapidly dominate the party's base and its relationship with the public. Without the "We didn't lose--Russia won" narrative the party's elite and those who exist under its patronage would be purged for being electorally incompetent and ideologically passé. The collapse of the Democratic vote over the last eight years is at every level, city, state, Congressional and presidential. It corresponds to the domination of Democratic decision making structures by a professional, educated, urban service class and to the shocking decline in health and longevity of white males, who together with their wives, daughters, mothers, etc. comprise 63% of the US population (2010 census). Unlike other industrialized countries US male real wages (all ethnic groups combined) have not increased since 1973. In trying to stimulate engagement of non-whites and women Democrats have aggressively promoted identity politics. This short-term tactic has led to the inevitable strategic catastrophe of the white and male super majorities responding by seeing themselves as an unserviced political identity group. Consequently in response to sotto-voce suggestions that Trump would service this group 53% of all men voted for Trump, 53% of white women and 63% of white men (PEW Research).

2. The Trump-Russia collusion narrative is a political dead end. Despite vast resources, enormous incentives and a year of investigation, Democratic senators who have seen the classified intelligence at the CIA such as Senator Feinstein (as recently as March) are forced to admit that there is no evidence of collusion [ Without collusion, we are left with the Democratic establishment blaming the public for being repelled by the words of Hillary Clinton and the Democratic party establishment. Is it a problem that the public discovered what Hillary Clinton said to Goldman Sachs and what party elites said about fixing the DNC primaries against Bernie Sanders? A party elite that maintains that it is the "crime of the century" for the public and their membership to discover how they behave and what they believe invites scorn.

3. The Democrat establishment needs the support of the security sector and media barons to push this diversionary conspiracy agenda, so they ingratiate themselves with these two classes leading to further perceptions that the Democrats act on behalf of an entrenched power elite. Eventually, Trump or Pence will 'merge' with the security state leaving Democrats in a vulnerable position having talked up two deeply unaccountable traditionally Republican-aligned organizations, in particular, the CIA and the FBI, who will be turned against them. Other than domestic diversion and geopolitical destabilization the primary result of the Russian narrative is increased influence and funding for the security sector which is primarily GOP owned or aligned.

4. The twin result is to place the primary self-interest concerns of most Americans, class competition, freedom from crime and ill health and the empowerment of their children, into the shadows and project the Democrats as close to DC and media elites. This has further cemented Trump's anti-establishment positioning and fettered attacks on Trump's run away embrace of robber barons, dictators and gravitas-free buffoons like the CIA's Mike Pompeo.

5. GOP/Trump has open goals everywhere: broken promises, inequality, economy, healthcare, militarization, Goldman Sachs, Saudi Arabia & cronyism, but the Democrat establishment can't kick these goals since the Russian collusion narrative has consumed all its energy and it is entangled with many of the same groups behind Trump's policies.

6. The Democratic base should move to start a new party since the party elite shows no signs that they will give up power. This can be done quickly and cheaply as a result of the internet and databases of peoples' political preferences. This reality is proven in practice with the rapid construction of the Macron, Sanders and Trump campaigns from nothing. The existing Democratic party may well have negative reputational capital, stimulating a Macron-style clean slate approach. Regardless, in the face of such a threat, the Democratic establishment will either concede control or, as in the case of Macron, be eliminated by the new structure.
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1spvr6n

So what new part(ies) will emerge?
.
"Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun" - Mao Zedong
User avatar
callmeslick
DBB Grand Master
DBB Grand Master
Posts: 14546
Joined: Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:12 am
Location: Rockland,DE and Parksley, VA

Re: Why the Democrat Party is Doomed

Post by callmeslick »

no idea if or what will emerge, but I'll base any conclusions on another source than Putins boy-toy Assange.
"The Party told you to reject all evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
George Orwell---"1984"
User avatar
Tunnelcat
DBB Grand Master
DBB Grand Master
Posts: 13742
Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2007 12:32 pm
Location: Pacific Northwest, U.S.A.

Re: Why the Democrat Party is Doomed

Post by Tunnelcat »

There's finally talk of replacing Pelosi. That would be a damn good start slick. If the Dems don't get some fresh young leadership, they'll continue to stagnate.

Oh and NS, the Republican Party is also dealing with it's own schism right now. They can't even agree on a replacement for Obamacare and they're too spineless to outright repeal it. I also wouldn't dismiss the Russia probe either. It may not involve the Republican Party, but Trump is up to his neck is some sort of ★■◆● whether his followers dismiss it or not. I'm guessing past real estate money laundering schemes via the Russian Oligarchs will be his eventual downfall. There's also that little detail of the Republican Party slowly embracing it's Fascist and nationalist wings. It won't end well either.
Cat (n.) A bipolar creature which would as soon gouge your eyes out as it would cuddle.
User avatar
callmeslick
DBB Grand Master
DBB Grand Master
Posts: 14546
Joined: Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:12 am
Location: Rockland,DE and Parksley, VA

Re: Why the Democrat Party is Doomed

Post by callmeslick »

Tunnelcat wrote:There's finally talk of replacing Pelosi. That would be a damn good start slick.
agree completely. She said something the other day to the effect that she is 'worth' the targetting, which many women I know saw as empowering. Many agreed with me that, no, she was not. At all. She's done little to advance the cause for a good decade or so.
If the Dems don't get some fresh young leadership, they'll continue to stagnate.
viewed from the inside,I'll offer this: what they need to do is start to listen to each other between two very established camps. You have my group, largely progressive, but very much moderate in approach. The other camp is more of a burn the bridges, change right away camp. They agree on about 50% of the fundamentals, but rip each other over the other half, despite the fact that neither's view will prevail if the GOP keeps winning almost by default.
Oh and NS, the Republican Party is also dealing with it's own schism right now. They can't even agree on a replacement for Obamacare and they're too spineless to outright repeal it. I also wouldn't dismiss the Russia probe either. It may not involve the Republican Party, but Trump is up to his neck is some sort of ★■◆● whether his followers dismiss it or not. I'm guessing past real estate money laundering schemes via the Russian Oligarchs will be his eventual downfall. There's also that little detail of the Republican Party slowly embracing it's Fascist and nationalist wings. It won't end well either.
sheer demographics argues against the Republicans. The nation is becoming less white, less rural and more accepting of outliers as it becomes younger. Now, my contention is that we're entering an era where standard politics or ideologies will not hold any society together, so we're likely to see whole new political entities. The ride should be wild, and likely to be unpleasant.
"The Party told you to reject all evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
George Orwell---"1984"
User avatar
Tunnelcat
DBB Grand Master
DBB Grand Master
Posts: 13742
Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2007 12:32 pm
Location: Pacific Northwest, U.S.A.

Re: Why the Democrat Party is Doomed

Post by Tunnelcat »

callmeslick wrote:
Tunnelcat wrote:Oh and NS, the Republican Party is also dealing with it's own schism right now. They can't even agree on a replacement for Obamacare and they're too spineless to outright repeal it. I also wouldn't dismiss the Russia probe either. It may not involve the Republican Party, but Trump is up to his neck is some sort of ★■◆● whether his followers dismiss it or not. I'm guessing past real estate money laundering schemes via the Russian Oligarchs will be his eventual downfall. There's also that little detail of the Republican Party slowly embracing it's Fascist and nationalist wings. It won't end well either.
sheer demographics argues against the Republicans. The nation is becoming less white, less rural and more accepting of outliers as it becomes younger. Now, my contention is that we're entering an era where standard politics or ideologies will not hold any society together, so we're likely to see whole new political entities. The ride should be wild, and likely to be unpleasant.
There's another issue for the Republicans as well. America is becoming younger, a demographic that tends to be more liberal. Once most of those Baby Boomers die off, the Republicans will lose a big chunk of their current base.
Cat (n.) A bipolar creature which would as soon gouge your eyes out as it would cuddle.
Post Reply