What is that??

For questions, special requests, or any complaints concerning the Descent BB.

Moderators: Krom, Lothar, Richard Cranium, KoolBear

Post Reply
User avatar
Isaac
DBB Artist
DBB Artist
Posts: 7737
Joined: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:47 am
Location: 🍕

What is that??

Post by Isaac »

Here's what I see:

Image

It looks terrible, unless maybe you're using the default theme.

Look, here's a quick keying I did using imagemagick

Code: Select all

convert logo.png -scale 900x -median 3 -fuzz 5% -transparent black -scale 375x result.png
Result:


Image

It's hardly perfect, but it's a better placeholder than what we currently have.

edit:

Here's what it would look like.

Image
❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉
-⎽__⎽-⎻⎺⎺⎻-⎽__⎽--⎻⎺⎺⎻-★ ·:*¨༺꧁༺ :E ༻꧂༻¨*:·.★-⎽__⎽-⎻⎺⎺⎻-⎽__⎽--⎻⎺⎺⎻-
❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉
User avatar
Krom
DBB Database Master
DBB Database Master
Posts: 16137
Joined: Sun Nov 29, 1998 3:01 am
Location: Camping the energy center. BTW, did you know you can have up to 100 characters in this location box?
Contact:

Re: What is that??

Post by Krom »

Swapped. But if you can do better, by all means post it and I'll swap it again. Also do one at 2x resolution if possible, the forum dynamically switches between a small "standard definition" one and a larger "high definition" one for people with large and/or high DPI displays.
User avatar
Isaac
DBB Artist
DBB Artist
Posts: 7737
Joined: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:47 am
Location: 🍕

Re: What is that??

Post by Isaac »

Cool and thanks for the quick response.

I'll work out a vector version that looks the same then export it to a png. I'll reply here when it's ready. Might take me a day since I'm a little busy, but it should be fun to make.
❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉
-⎽__⎽-⎻⎺⎺⎻-⎽__⎽--⎻⎺⎺⎻-★ ·:*¨༺꧁༺ :E ༻꧂༻¨*:·.★-⎽__⎽-⎻⎺⎺⎻-⎽__⎽--⎻⎺⎺⎻-
❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉
User avatar
vision
DBB Material Defender
DBB Material Defender
Posts: 4407
Joined: Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:54 pm
Location: Mars

Re: What is that??

Post by vision »

Looks great guys, good jorb.
User avatar
Isaac
DBB Artist
DBB Artist
Posts: 7737
Joined: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:47 am
Location: 🍕

Re: What is that??

Post by Isaac »

So as you can see...

Image

...I'm doing this manually. It's going to take me more than a day. My apologies. I honestly thought the automatic pixel to vector program would work here, but it did not. The results were muddy looking. So doing it by hand is probably going to have the best result.

It takes a while, but once it's done it should look pretty good.

edit:
Slow going... Even once I got all the letters in I need to go back and tweak the shading.

Image
❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉
-⎽__⎽-⎻⎺⎺⎻-⎽__⎽--⎻⎺⎺⎻-★ ·:*¨༺꧁༺ :E ༻꧂༻¨*:·.★-⎽__⎽-⎻⎺⎺⎻-⎽__⎽--⎻⎺⎺⎻-
❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉
User avatar
Isaac
DBB Artist
DBB Artist
Posts: 7737
Joined: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:47 am
Location: 🍕

Re: What is that??

Post by Isaac »

Sorry again. I'm now trying to get colors and shading to work. Letters like the E look wrong so now I'm just going back and trying to get that same depth the original had.
Letters and zoomed in version of those letters:

Image

edit: It's getting closer:


Image
View it in
Image


edit:

Fighting it... Don't think it will be done today... :E :E


Image

At a glance it looks close to being finished. But if you compare each letter you can see I got a lot of work ahead to make it match.

edit:
update:

Image

Maybe tomorrow it will be be close to done.
❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉
-⎽__⎽-⎻⎺⎺⎻-⎽__⎽--⎻⎺⎺⎻-★ ·:*¨༺꧁༺ :E ༻꧂༻¨*:·.★-⎽__⎽-⎻⎺⎺⎻-⎽__⎽--⎻⎺⎺⎻-
❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉
User avatar
Isaac
DBB Artist
DBB Artist
Posts: 7737
Joined: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:47 am
Location: 🍕

Re: What is that??

Post by Isaac »

After stepping away from it for a bit, I don't think it's as bad as I used to think.

Krom and anyone else, what are your thoughts? The "E" and "S" are kinda the wrong shape, but other than that, how close is it?
❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉
-⎽__⎽-⎻⎺⎺⎻-⎽__⎽--⎻⎺⎺⎻-★ ·:*¨༺꧁༺ :E ༻꧂༻¨*:·.★-⎽__⎽-⎻⎺⎺⎻-⎽__⎽--⎻⎺⎺⎻-
❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉
User avatar
vision
DBB Material Defender
DBB Material Defender
Posts: 4407
Joined: Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:54 pm
Location: Mars

Re: What is that??

Post by vision »

I think it looks great. The typeface differences are barely noticeable and it's supremely impressive you were able to recreate something this close. Can you tell us how you did it?
User avatar
Krom
DBB Database Master
DBB Database Master
Posts: 16137
Joined: Sun Nov 29, 1998 3:01 am
Location: Camping the energy center. BTW, did you know you can have up to 100 characters in this location box?
Contact:

Re: What is that??

Post by Krom »

Looks pretty good to me, as long as you save it as a png with the full alpha channel set up it should work fine. As for the "high definition" copy, the original is 375x63, so at least double that to 750x126 which would be good for up to 200% text scaling (I wouldn't complain if you went even larger than that if you wanted).

As for the e and the s, I think I see what you are talking about, the lines on the newer image are more solid/defined and I think that makes them look proportionally a little thicker as a result. Still good enough to me, but you're the artist. ;)
User avatar
Isaac
DBB Artist
DBB Artist
Posts: 7737
Joined: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:47 am
Location: 🍕

Re: What is that??

Post by Isaac »

Of course, vision. I'm using an open source vector art program called Inkscape. I encourage you to download it to try: https://inkscape.org/en/
To get an idea of how it works, here's what the letter d in descent looks like when I'm working on the vector lines:
Image

I can make a shape and blur it then layer that shape over others to give the illusion of depth, as shade or a highlight.

:E :E :E

Krom, let me know if you need changes. This includes improving the shading or exporting to a different resolution. Here's my submission:

375x63

Image

750x126

Image

Here's the source document for your descent related archives:

Image
❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉
-⎽__⎽-⎻⎺⎺⎻-⎽__⎽--⎻⎺⎺⎻-★ ·:*¨༺꧁༺ :E ༻꧂༻¨*:·.★-⎽__⎽-⎻⎺⎺⎻-⎽__⎽--⎻⎺⎺⎻-
❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉
User avatar
vision
DBB Material Defender
DBB Material Defender
Posts: 4407
Joined: Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:54 pm
Location: Mars

Re: What is that??

Post by vision »

Isaac wrote: Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:48 pmOf course, vision. I'm using an open source vector art program called Inkscape. I encourage you to download it to try: https://inkscape.org/en/
To get an idea of how it works, here's what the letter d in descent looks like when I'm working on the vector lines: http://example.com/i/Selection_124.png
Oh sweet Jesus.

I'm already an expert in Inkscape, but what you are doing looks like insanity. Did you trace the whole image or do you have the typeface? I think I have a generic of that typeface. It's pretty popular, but the name escapes me right now.
User avatar
Isaac
DBB Artist
DBB Artist
Posts: 7737
Joined: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:47 am
Location: 🍕

Re: What is that??

Post by Isaac »

Very cool! It's a great program to know. Yes, I had to trace everything by hand since I didn't know where to find the font.
❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉
-⎽__⎽-⎻⎺⎺⎻-⎽__⎽--⎻⎺⎺⎻-★ ·:*¨༺꧁༺ :E ༻꧂༻¨*:·.★-⎽__⎽-⎻⎺⎺⎻-⎽__⎽--⎻⎺⎺⎻-
❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉⊱•═•⊰❉
User avatar
Krom
DBB Database Master
DBB Database Master
Posts: 16137
Joined: Sun Nov 29, 1998 3:01 am
Location: Camping the energy center. BTW, did you know you can have up to 100 characters in this location box?
Contact:

Re: What is that??

Post by Krom »

Ok, switched them in, looks a lot better. Thanks!
User avatar
Tunnelcat
DBB Grand Master
DBB Grand Master
Posts: 13738
Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2007 12:32 pm
Location: Pacific Northwest, U.S.A.

Re: What is that??

Post by Tunnelcat »

Hey, the new lettering does look better! Thanks Isaac.
Cat (n.) A bipolar creature which would as soon gouge your eyes out as it would cuddle.
User avatar
Jeff250
DBB Master
DBB Master
Posts: 6539
Joined: Sun Sep 05, 1999 2:01 am
Location: ❄️❄️❄️

Re: What is that??

Post by Jeff250 »

Crap, this is great!
Post Reply