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More like- restoring real education back into universities by teaching the values and history of this country. Something completely lacking in most higher "education" these days.
The new courses at Arizona State focus on Western thinking from the ancient Greeks to the Founding Fathers and beyond, with an emphasis on free-market philosophy. They draw heavily from original texts rather than modern interpretations.

“There is too much revisionism being taught in universities today,” said State Representative Jay Lawrence, a Republican from Scottsdale who backed the new programs. “It’s a big deal to those of us who feel very strongly about a more conservative education.”
Of course the post-modernist neomarxists are going to fight what used to be their exclusive domain:
But many liberal arts professors view these efforts as reviving an antiquated and Eurocentric version of history, one that they have tried to balance with viewpoints of women and racial minorities.
No. These "liberal arts professors" are pushing identity politics in an attempt to balkanize and destroy the country. It's already been made clear:



https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/26/us/a ... ss&emc=rss
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It's clear you've never attended college.
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vision beat me to that one. Certainly no awareness about the nature of academic coursework, diversity of thinking that has always been in place, especially in specialty seminar courses.
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vision wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:18 pm It's clear you've never attended college.
...and you would be clearly wrong (just as you are about a myriad of other things.)
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Then how do you have such a warped view of what goes on in colleges and universities? What did you study and did you graduate?
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vision wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:04 pm Then how do you have such a warped view of what goes on in colleges and universities? What did you study and did you graduate?
Please. OF COURSE not all courses were politically poisoned- though when I went BACK to college in the early 2000s, one of my professors grew increasingly troubled by the identity politics beginning to rise on campus and we had a discussion about it at the end of his course.
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Can you provide a personal anecdote of the problem from your experience at school? I've attended several schools and work in education today and can't think of an example of "murderous Marxist ideology" taught anywhere except a political science classroom.
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yup. I have two degrees and can't remember one example outside of maybe poli sci(where it was mentioned in a comparative way), or Modern European history, which made mention of the downsides and the reason societies chose Marxism.
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vision wrote: Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:56 pm Can you provide a personal anecdote of the problem from your experience at school? I've attended several schools and work in education today and can't think of an example of "murderous Marxist ideology" taught anywhere except a political science classroom.
It is IDENTITY POLITICS... That is a MAJOR pillar of marxism. Do you disagree that IDENTITY POLITICS is being espoused on campuses nationwide? (Heck, even worldwide. Just look at Canada.)



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YOUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. LEARN TO READ. We already know you can post stupid videos. Use your brain and type an original thought for once. CAN YOU DO THAT LITTLE MAN?
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Still haven't answered where/when you went to school and what you studied, either.
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fascists try to denigrate intellectuals. Intellect is dangerous to them.
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According to the latest findings from the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation, 50 percent of today’s American millennials view socialism or communism as the ideal political ideology. Half of them have found their heroes in dictators such as Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong. Lenin, Che, and Kim Jong Un.

The country that grew into the wealthiest on earth through capitalism is showing alarming signs of turning away from its roots.

Much of this trend is due to historical illiteracy and a failure to teach an entire generation about the destruction that have been perpetrated by previous communist regimes. At the same time, they are uninformed about the failures and desperations experienced in current communist countries, such as Venezuela and Cuba. Today’s millennials are hard-pressed to even define socialism and communism. They feel at odds with capitalism and simply feel any alternative would be better, although many haven’t started working or become a part of the workforce thanks to the pro wall street policies practiced by the Federal Reserve.

One of the lure of socialism is the same one proselytized by Karl Marx: the division of wealth. High earners and inherited wealth are seen as unfairly depriving the rest the population of their “fair share,” although most millennials are unable to elaborate clearly on the concept. A mere third of millennials can even correctly define socialism. Only half can identify capitalism as the free market economic system that lured millions of their ancestors to American shores.

For those who thought the Cold War is at an end, these trends are a disturbing wakeup call. This time, however, the chill is not across the Atlantic. Socialism is on the rise as a threat to America, but the threat is coming from America’s own newest generation of voters, who weren’t even born when the Berlin Wall magnificently collapsed to the cheer of millions. They were, ironically, raised during one of history’s most prosperous periods while being indoctrinated into ideologies their grandparents died to obliterate.

Socialism is no longer seen as a threat. Instead, the once-feared ideology is now being celebrated as “cool.” In certain circles, it carries an automatic claim to virtue. And millennials are being fed the joys of socialism on a daily basis by an increasingly left-leaning media. It was a like-minded media that praised Lenin’s implementation of communism as a “noble ideal.” Politically, we may have come full circle in less than 100 years.

Many Americans feel the need for an educational system that teaches the actual consequences of communism and the economic possibilities provided by capitalism. If this does not happen, they fear that the realities of a classless society may become all too real.

Donald Trump’s election to the American presidency has underscored the media bias toward socialism and liberalism, while freedom and capitalism are being covered in increasingly dark and negative terms. Journalists no longer feel compelled to report facts. Instead, opinions, no matter how inaccurate, passes for journalism. And these opinions are being eagerly absorbed by the millennial generation seeking so-called “safe spaces.” While the actual definition may not be clearly defined, space spaces seems to be any place where capitalism is not. Close to half of millennials state they want to live in a socialist country, safely protected from the freedoms and obligations of the First Amendment. Yet thanks to our educational system, these same millennials are unable to define either socialism, communism, or capitalism correctly.

Communist regimes have risen by the dozen since Lenin’s marched into Moscow. And they have collapsed in almost equal numbers. Only a few struggling and starving Communist countries are still hanging on by a fraying thread, oblivious to the misery of their masses.

If our schools were anxious to explain the truth about communism, they would teach that:

Communism thwarts creativity and personal ambition. The individual is merely a part of the whole.
Both Russian and China endured starvation and the death of more than 40 million citizens through forced collectivization after the government nationalized small farms. Forced redistribution of property is an integral part of Marx’s Manifesto.
The millennials’ much vaunted quest for “equality” translates into equal poverty for all. Under socialism, there are no incentives to work and prosper. Revolts by a more ambitious segment of communist populations have brought down several regimes, including Russia.
The proven success of capitalism is a threat to communist regimes, some of which would readily act to destroy America. Some millennials actually welcome the idea.
The lack of incentive to actual work causes inefficiency at all levels of government, including the ruin of ecologically critical land and waters.
The millennials’ argument against capitalist monopolies ignores the fact the under socialism and communist, there is only one monopoly – the government.
While Marx’s argument for class struggle may have had an iota of validity in an age when people were ruled by the whim of dictatorial royals, it is capitalism that has made a strong middle class possible, thus erasing the lines between upper and lower classes. Today’s remaining communist countries have only two classes: a small but powerful ruling class and the remaining, poor populace. The absolute elitism decried by Marxists can only grow in a Marxist society.
Communist regimes require absolute obedience. At least 80 million people have been killed since the early 20th century to keep alive the myth of a viable communist or socialist state.

Sadly, the millennial generation is mostly unaware and indifferent to the above facts. And our schools and liberal media are serving as greater advocates for socialism than Karl Marx was ever able to. He lacked capitalism’s innate belief in freedom of the press, as well as the innovations capitalism made possible to disseminate news and information to all interested citizens.
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Couldn't read it past the second sentence because the smell of bull★■◆● made my eyes water so bad.
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You didn't miss much. Holy ★■◆● that was terrible. Socialism "protects....from the First Amendment"? Looooool.
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Medicare for all would be just like living in Stalin's Russia.
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that source oozed propaganda stench. Bravo to those who slogged through the actual article!
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Vander wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:56 am Medicare for all would be just like living in Stalin's Russia.
Medicare is an income based insurance program, so I guess we will have to start forcing babies to work.

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About time those takers pull their own weight.
callmeslick wrote:that source oozed propaganda stench. Bravo to those who slogged through the actual article!
Seemed odd content for a website proclaiming to be mining industry news. Looks like it's a propaganda operation at least loosely affiliated with a mining industry trade group. So I guess it ends up making sense such an article would be there when you realize the idea of public ownership often runs counter to resource exploitation by private interests.
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Vander wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:56 am I guess we will have to start forcing babies to work.

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