Absolutely dangerous...

[Nightshade]

...so I guess whenever Republicans are angry about Democrat policies, they should form angry mobs and threaten and attack Democrat lawmakers and employees as well.



The left seems to want civil war. If they're not careful, they'll get it.

It's also interesting that all of these 'family separation' policies for illegal immigrants were enforced under a democrat administration for two terms without so much as a peep of outrage in the media or anywhere else until there was a republican president.

[vision]

Go back to lurking. It's been beautiful here without your posts. I don't want your garbage filling up my RSS feed.

[Ferno]

Nah, they wouldn't do that. Republicans would be too busy gaslighting you into believing that Democrats are the enemy.

Oh wait.

[Vander]

It's also interesting that all of these 'family separation' policies for illegal immigrants were enforced under a democrat administration for two terms without so much as a peep of outrage in the media or anywhere else until there was a republican president.

I could be wrong, but my understanding is that the separation policy was for prosecutions. So it's true that was the policy of previous administrations. What is apparently new is the zero tolerance policy where everyone is prosecuted, including asylum seekers presenting themselves at the legitimate points of entry. (i.e. not trying to sneak in)

As for the topic, I don't have a problem the press secretary being deprived a restaurant visit, or the DHS secretary being subjected to chants of "shame." I don't advocate mob violence, but I also don't mind people making it uncomfortable for these officials to navigate society. You shouldn't get to strip healthcare from your waiter and then expect him to smile at you while he refills your dinner roll basket.

[Nightshade]

As for the topic, I don't have a problem the press secretary being deprived a restaurant visit, or the DHS secretary being subjected to chants of "shame." I don't advocate mob violence, but I also don't mind people making it uncomfortable for these officials to navigate society. You shouldn't get to strip healthcare from your waiter and then expect him to smile at you while he refills your dinner roll basket.

So it's open season on any political figure (left or right) or their staffers for any policy you absolutely oppose. Got it.

[Vander]

Got it.

I'm glad for you.

[Top Gun]

...so I guess whenever Republicans are angry about Democrat policies, they should form angry mobs and threaten and attack Democrat lawmakers and employees as well.

Only when Democratic policies involve being armband-wearing fascist pieces of ★■◆●. Call me when that starts happening.

[Tunnelcat]

...so I guess whenever Republicans are angry about Democrat policies, they should form angry mobs and threaten and attack Democrat lawmakers and employees as well.

The left seems to want civil war. If they're not careful, they'll get it.

It's also interesting that all of these 'family separation' policies for illegal immigrants were enforced under a democrat administration for two terms without so much as a peep of outrage in the media or anywhere else until there was a republican president.

This coming from an American citizen who voted for the biggest foul-mouthed, lying, egomaniacal prick on the planet. A prick who revels in denigrating and riling up people, just to attack those he disagrees with at his little boner "rallies", which he only holds to boost his fragile ego and piss people off. Then the bastard has the gall to play the "Mommy, it's their fault" game when his targets react and get pissed off about the hateful things he's said or done. Classic bully tactics. Trump and his nutty ultra right Cultists are the ones who've set the new political tone, not the Democrats. Liberals are just answering in kind. The ultra right groups are the ones who want Civil War. They don't want to be told to like minorities, immigrants, queers or having their precious guns controlled. They want the freedom to be total self-centered jerks. Besides, I thought all liberals were a bunch of pussy snowflakes, so how can they also want war at the same time? Trump's the one feeding gasoline on the fire, so place the blame on the proper arsonist. So far, he's pretty much stuck to the fascist/dictator playbook with his methods, and boy does it stink.

You also seem to be forgetting those conservative "mobs" who were targeting those hated liberals and their policies. How about all those angry screaming mobs years ago when health care reform was being debated at Democratic town halls, or even the Capital for that matter?

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/05/ ... index.html



Then there's the gun rights groups, mostly conservatives, who threaten death to any Democrat or liberal if they even think of trying to pass any kind of gun legislation. The word compromise is a call to arms word in that camp.



And don't forget the crème de la crème of foul, hateful mobs,the angry white nationalists, who are willing to shove their hate into any minority's or immigrant's faces, WITH PRIDE.



You know Nightshade, I finally took one of those ancestry tests. Once I get the results, I'll know more detail, but right now I've found out that my great great grandfather came from Germany. He was an immigrant who came here and settled, raised a family and made a good a life. My husband's grandparents were also German and were forced to flee Germany because Hitler attacked any intellectuals who threatened his power. They all eventually became American citizens. This country is made up of immigrants, a lot of them having fled oppression and poverty in their own countries. The people coming to our border today are mostly people fleeing oppression and violence in Central America. But listen to Fox News, and they're all a bunch of gangsters or crisis actors. But they're illegals you say? Well, Trump's even jailing those who are legally seeking asylum. So who created our current situation? Why, every damn illegal drug user in the United States and every greedy or desperate businessman needing some cheap labor. We only have ourselves to blame for the mess at our own border.

Trump keeps flapping his gums about a WALL. I'd like someone to explain how a wall is supposed to stop illegal immigrants from crossing the southern border? Hell, most of Texas' border is a river and a lot of those illegals swim right across it. Edit: I can't find a reference about Trump saying he wanted to shoot illegals crossing the border, but some stupid woman at an Oregon DMV can be credited with that one on her twitter account. What a great American Trump supporter, and you claimed only Democrats were promoting violence NS.

As for Obama and Bush separating families, yes, they may have done it at times. But there are no hard numbers on how many occurred, but it was sparingly used in criminal instances and it wasn't made general policy. Under Trump's and Session's policy, it's been supersized and institutionalized on a gigantic scale, a racist's and nationalist's wet dream. Acres and acres of chained in detention facilities reminiscent of the internment of the Japanese during WWII. In fact they're worse. At least the Japanese internees had actual wooden structures to live in, not tents or cages in old Walmart buildings. By the way, who's paying for all these huge detention centers and what's it costing us? You can be sure it ain't coming from Trump's larder, or Mexico's.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 728060002/

[Tunnelcat]

The arsonist Trump at work in his natural habitat.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... 152e6fe4f3

And conservatives wonder why liberals and most other rational people are getting a little ticked off at Trump and his sycophant butt kissers.

https://www.clarionledger.com/story/opi ... 729763002/

So the moral is, it's not only Trump that's the problem, it's his followers. Everyone that supports that bastard needs their heads examined, because the cognitive dissonance going on must be overwhelming. Maybe we should split off part of the country and give it to them as a nation they could call their own. We could call it Trumpland.

https://www.gq.com/story/the-people-are-the-problem

[Top Gun]

Anyone still supporting Trump at this point should be legally required to wear a helmet in public.

[Nightshade]

...so I guess whenever Republicans are angry about Democrat policies, they should form angry mobs and threaten and attack Democrat lawmakers and employees as well.

Only when Democratic policies involve being armband-wearing fascist pieces of ★■◆●. Call me when that starts happening.

Are you even hearing yourself when you type that sh1t? You're practically wearing a brown shirt now.

[Tunnelcat]

Get of your high horse NS. Both sides are doing it and there are no angels here. Why is it when conservatives yell and scream at liberals, they call it expressing their free speech, but when liberals yell and scream at conservatives, they're being fascists and brown shirts? Maybe conservatives just don't like it when the snowflakes start acting more like fire brands and it's now scaring them that they aren't rolling over like good little wussies. Dissent is an American as apple pie, so deal with it. Liberals right now HATE Trump to the very core of their being, myself included and Trump actually seems to enjoy that fact. So it's unproductive and stupid for liberals to even try to stoop to Trump's bottomless idiocy because Trump always seems to achieve an even lower low. Besides, it only gives Trump some sort of perverse self satisfaction. So liberals, be patient, show restraint, keep on pushing back and take the high road doing it, because from personal experience, attacking the bully always backfires. The smart people of this country will let the bully self-implode, because the best way to get rid of a bully is to let him be the instrument of his own destruction. We can only hope that happens sooner than later for the sake of our nation. Unfortunately, Trump and the current crop of used-to-be Republicans are so intransigent, by the time everything crumbles, it will invariably be too late. If history has anything to say about it, the political pendulum will swing hard back to the left. Not a palatable thought, is it NS? It's also an outcome of your own making.

And quit projecting the fascist behaviors of the man you helped elect upon members of the party who's opposing him at every turn. Trump's the one who's been following the authoritarian populist/fascist playbook like it's his own personal operating manual, the Constitution be damned.

http://www.santafenewmexican.com/opinio ... 85bc4.html

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/201 ... at-it.html

[Top Gun]

Are you even hearing yourself when you type that sh1t? You're practically wearing a brown shirt now.

In what ★■◆●ing way. Tell me. To my face.

Trump literally wants parades goose-stepping their way down Pennsylvania Avenue. He just praised ★■◆● Kim-Jong Un for having people snap to attention around him. Wake the ever-loving ★■◆● up.

[TRUEpiiiicness]

You're practically wearing a brown shirt now.

Wtf does that mean?

[Vander]

Come on, guys. Nightshade is giving us some friendly advice. He's letting us know that our active discontent will surely encourage the opposition, the powerless band of patriots who control all three branches of government and are heavily armed and itching for "open season" and "civil war." He's just looking out for us, because the Red Dawn LARP set is a little reactionary.

[Tunnelcat]

Oh, NS must be having kittens right now if he's been watching the news this morning. The left is beginning to pull very hard to the left.

https://www.thenation.com/article/alexa ... ry-vision/

And that idiot Trump thinks that the Democratic incumbent Joe Crowley lost because he hated Trump. News flash Donald. Cortez hates Trump more than Crowley and THAT'S why she won the election. In fact, the Democratic Party may need to take heed as well.

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-doesnt-re ... oes-996753

[Nightshade]

Come on, guys. Nightshade is giving us some friendly advice. He's letting us know that our active discontent will surely encourage the opposition, the powerless band of patriots who control all three branches of government and are heavily armed and itching for "open season" and "civil war." He's just looking out for us, because the Red Dawn LARP set is a little reactionary.

That's your idea of "active discontent" I suppose. Votes don't go your way? Violent overthrow sound good?

[Vander]

Good argument.

[Top Gun]

The only attempt at commentary TB can ever manage is shitty political cartoons.

[Tunnelcat]

That's your idea of "active discontent" I suppose. Votes don't go your way? Violent overthrow sound good?

The typical stupid Trump supporter's idea of "active discontent". Attack every restaurant with the same name in an effort to ruin their business because they're too stupid or inconsiderate to look up the location of the right restaurant. They're also too stupid to know that it's illegal for any D.C. business, which is where the wrong restaurant they're attacking is located, to discriminate based on someone's political affiliation.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/201 ... 730679002/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/goi ... 7dfacc48b0

[Vander]

I suppose.

That is where you've made your error. You're using your imagination to replace what I've actually said with what you apparently want me to be saying so you can justify your insane persecution complex. I've given examples of my idea of "active discontent," and specifically stated "I don't advocate mob violence." From that, you've deduced that I really mean "violent overthrow" and beating people bloody.

"My side" has been pretty ★■◆●ing calm so far considering what we've seen this past year and a half. If the situation were reversed, we'd consider ourselves lucky to be discussing how an official got denied dinner instead of the likely armed uprising.

Votes don't go your way?

This president got 3 million fewer votes than his opponent. Gerrymandering and disenfranchisement are doing yeoman's work to dilute voting power. It's not inconceivable with the current state the courts are taking that this will be even more extreme in the future. I'm all for votes over pitchforks, but I worry when they mean less and less. Don't you?

But whatever. I know that not matter what I write, you'll find a cartoon that helps you sleep with the knowledge you've been right a along.

[vision]

But whatever. I know that not matter what I write, you'll find a cartoon that helps you sleep with the knowledge you've been right a along.

Sick burn.

[Ferno]

Let me know how that wonderful tax break Trump "gave" works out next year when things become horribly expensive. it's almost as if there was a way to tell he would be bad for the country.

[Tunnelcat]

This president got 3 million fewer votes than his opponent. Gerrymandering and disenfranchisement are doing yeoman's work to dilute voting power. It's not inconceivable with the current state the courts are taking that this will be even more extreme in the future. I'm all for votes over pitchforks, but I worry when they mean less and less. Don't you?

Oh, it's going to get worse. The Republican Senate hypocrisy has been out in full blemished view this week. They're not even ashamed of it. Mitch McConnell and his cohorts did everything possible to block Obama's Supreme Court nominee until after the presidential election and they succeeded. Now, no surprise, McConnell does a 180 and says that they don't have to wait until after the election's to approve a SCOTUS nominee, tough sh*t Dems. They also changed the rules so that a simple majority is all that's needed to approve a nominee, which is currently the only way the bastards in the Senate are going to get a Trump ultra conservative nominee approved. Now were going to get a Supreme Court that's solidly conservative for generations to come. Kiss your free speech and civil rights goodby for a long time. And conservatives wonder why liberals are getting mad. But the Republicans better be careful. When they changed the rules to benefit their party, those same rules can easily be used against them when they're no longer in power. Don't assume it'll be the Democrats either. Think more along the lines of the Freedom Caucus or even the Socialists.

[Burlyman]

Thunderbunny, why can't you see it? The right commiting acts of injustice knowing that the left want to fight them over it. Both the left and the right are being used by the "purple eagle" to (potentially) foment a civil war.

I want to comment on that gun control video. Perhaps some Republicans are a bit extreme when it comes to their views on guns, but have any of you considered that it may be the government that is getting Republicans to send her death threats to motivate her to pass the legislation that they want in the first place? Also, she mentions school shootings, and these shootings as well as the coverage of them in the news could be orchestrated by government as well, and for the same reason.

[Top Gun]

Thunderbunny, why can't you see it? The right commiting acts of injustice knowing that the left want to fight them over it. Both the left and the right are being used by the "purple eagle" to (potentially) foment a civil war.

I want to comment on that gun control video. Perhaps some Republicans are a bit extreme when it comes to their views on guns, but have any of you considered that it may be the government that is getting Republicans to send her death threats to motivate her to pass the legislation that they want in the first place? Also, she mentions school shootings, and these shootings as well as the coverage of them in the news could be orchestrated by government as well, and for the same reason.

As I said elsewhere, you're batshit insane.

[Burlyman]

#coolstorybro

[Tunnelcat]

Thunderbunny, why can't you see it? The right commiting acts of injustice knowing that the left want to fight them over it. Both the left and the right are being used by the "purple eagle" to (potentially) foment a civil war.

What the heck is the "purple eagle"?