RBG has died

[Tunnelcat]

Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died at age 87 from metastatic pancreatic cancer. RIP to an American icon. The political machinations will now commence before she's even laid to rest.

Now will the Dems get to block Trump's nominee to the SCOTUS like the Republicans did during the final months of Obama's tenure using the closeness to the election as the reason to not allow a vote on a new and most likely an extreme conservative justice? You can bet McConnel is going to be a hypocrite in this case.

[Krom]

McConnel would push through a conservative justice even if it had happened after Trump had already lost the election but before Biden could take office. Even if it had happened in the end of December, during congressional vacation, after a landslide victory for democrats. And it isn't hypocritical, what would be hypocritical is if he stopped being perhaps the most Evil person ever to "serve" in congress.

[Tunnelcat]

The nation can always hope that Kentuckians wake up and kick the evil prick out on his sorry turtle ass and elect the moderate Marine Vet running for his seat who perhaps has some discipline and honesty, something the Republican Party sorely needs right now.

https://bipartisanreport.com/2020/06/13 ... rt-erodes/

McConnell stated today that the Republican majority in the Senate and the White House give him the right to confirm Trump's SCOTUS pick because it's the will of the voters and that he will do what it takes to get a conservative judge nominated and confirmed before the election. He's ignoring the glaring fact that Trump did NOT win the popular vote in 2016, so that kind of negates his "mandate from the voters" BS. He's already got a couple of dissenters in his ranks too. I hope they and others monkey wrench McConnell's plans.

https://politicalwire.com/2020/09/18/mu ... t-nominee/

https://bangordailynews.com/2020/09/18/ ... t-justice/

[woodchip]

Poor babies, complaining that RBG couldn't of clung to life until at least after the election. Take heart, The Reps are doing exactly what the Dems would do if the situation was reversed. And Krom, the most evil person in congress is either Pelosi, Nadler or Schiff. Can't decide which

[Top Gun]

Poor babies, complaining that RBG couldn't of clung to life until at least after the election. Take heart, The Reps are doing exactly what the Dems would do if the situation was reversed. And Krom, the most evil person in congress is either Pelosi, Nadler or Schiff. Can't decide which

The Republicans are doing exactly what they said shouldn't be done four years ago, because they are hypocritical pieces of smegma who follow a fascist sack of ★■◆●. But it's okay to betray the oath you took and turn this country into a third-world dictatorship as long as you #ownthelibs, isn't it woody? How ★■◆●ing pathetic can you possibly be. Traitor.

[woodchip]

Poor babies, complaining that RBG couldn't of clung to life until at least after the election. Take heart, The Reps are doing exactly what the Dems would do if the situation was reversed. And Krom, the most evil person in congress is either Pelosi, Nadler or Schiff. Can't decide which

The Republicans are doing exactly what they said shouldn't be done four years ago, because they are hypocritical pieces of smegma who follow a fascist sack of ★■◆●. But it's okay to betray the oath you took and turn this country into a third-world dictatorship as long as you #ownthelibs, isn't it woody? How ★■◆●ing pathetic can you possibly be. Traitor.

I bet you think the facist protestors are just peaceful protestors. Why not ask the small business owners what they think of BLM and Antifa after their business's were destroyed by them. Oh wait, you're going to spring on us how white racists infiltrated them and they caused all the damage.

[Top Gun]

facist protestors

Thank you for proving every time you post here just what level of drooling idiot it takes to believe a single word coming out of ★■◆●ing Cheeto's mouth. What a goddamn joke.

And for the record, if cops don't want protests turning violent, maybe they should stop mowing down unarmed black people like the cowardly pieces of ★■◆● they are.

[Krom]

It never ceases to amaze me how perfectly opposite of reality conservatives are able to twist their perception.

[Tunnelcat]

Poor babies, complaining that RBG couldn't of clung to life until at least after the election. Take heart, The Reps are doing exactly what the Dems would do if the situation was reversed. And Krom, the most evil person in congress is either Pelosi, Nadler or Schiff. Can't decide which

Yes, you are right in that point, even Biden has stated that fact, the dumbass. Kind of blows the Dems whining about it to hell too. But you're missing one little detail. The Republicans under McConnell waaaaaaay back ELEVEN MONTHS before the election of Trump while Obama was still in office, made a big stink and decided it was just too close the the election to nominate a SCOTUS candidate, so they refused to even consider or vote on Obama's pick. Let's wait for the next president they said. Even Lindsey Graham made an eloquent speech to that effect. So if eleven months was too close the the election for the Republicans back then, how about now that it's only WEEKS before an election! The Republican's hypocrisy is so thick you can cut it with a knife. They're so determined to grab power and stack the court that they've long since tossed out any remnants of moral authority they used to hold. They've flip flopped so hard this time that they went splat and trashed every former element of conservatism they used to honor. Of course, they lost most of their former conservative convictions long before Trump came on the scene. Trump's now converted just about all of them into a bunch of boot-licking Fascists that now endanger our very Democracy just by supporting him.

So one the women he's thinking of nominating, Amy Coney, is a member of a Catholic cult called "People of Praise". Right up your alley woodchip. A paternalistic religious group that says "men" are the leaders and women should be subservient to them. I guess that's right up your alley to stomp on those feminazis you so hate. Makes on wonder how she even became a judge, unless her hubby gave her "permission".

[Tunnelcat]

I bet you think the facist protestors are just peaceful protestors. Why not ask the small business owners what they think of BLM and Antifa after their business's were destroyed by them. Oh wait, you're going to spring on us how white racists infiltrated them and they caused all the damage.

You mean like this Antifa guy? Oopsie, he's really a white supremacist agitator out breaking those poor businesses windows and making it LOOK LIKE it was Antifa. Plus, the guy hasn't been charged even with vandalism yet. Makes you wonder how many other white supremacists are doing the same thing? Go fly a kite woody.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... nneapolis/

[woodchip]

Poor babies, complaining that RBG couldn't of clung to life until at least after the election. Take heart, The Reps are doing exactly what the Dems would do if the situation was reversed. And Krom, the most evil person in congress is either Pelosi, Nadler or Schiff. Can't decide which

So one the women he's thinking of nominating, Amy Coney, is a member of a Catholic cult called "People of Praise". Right up your alley woodchip. A paternalistic religious group that says "men" are the leaders and women should be subservient to them. I guess that's right up your alley to stomp on those feminazis you so hate. Makes on wonder how she even became a judge, unless her hubby gave her "permission".

And RBG was Jewish. As much as the left is anti-semite I see being Jewish didn't bother them. whats a matter TC, a female conservative judge bother you?

[Jeff250]

I always wonder, don't McConnell, Trump, et al. care about their legacy or how future historians will treat them? I wonder the same about full-blown authoritarians such as Xi Jinping. Do they truly think that they are on the right side of history, or do they just not care?

[woodchip]

I bet you think the facist protestors are just peaceful protestors. Why not ask the small business owners what they think of BLM and Antifa after their business's were destroyed by them. Oh wait, you're going to spring on us how white racists infiltrated them and they caused all the damage.

You mean like this Antifa guy? Oopsie, he's really a white supremacist agitator out breaking those poor businesses windows and making it LOOK LIKE it was Antifa. Plus, the guy hasn't been charged even with vandalism yet. Makes you wonder how many other white supremacists are doing the same thing? Go fly a kite woody.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... nneapolis/

Hey, you found one guy who happens to be a Hells Angel and that means all the rioters were?. Curious enough Rush Limbaugh predicted this would be the route the left would take to change the narrative as the riots are looking poorly for their side. Next you know the guy who shot the 2 LA cops will be a white supremacist in black face

[woodchip]

I always wonder, don't McConnell, Trump, et al. care about their legacy or how future historians will treat them? I wonder the same about full-blown authoritarians such as Xi Jinping. Do they truly think that they are on the right side of history, or do they just not care?

First you have to ask yourself how legacy is measured and by who.

[Tunnelcat]

Poor babies, complaining that RBG couldn't of clung to life until at least after the election. Take heart, The Reps are doing exactly what the Dems would do if the situation was reversed. And Krom, the most evil person in congress is either Pelosi, Nadler or Schiff. Can't decide which

So one the women he's thinking of nominating, Amy Coney, is a member of a Catholic cult called "People of Praise". Right up your alley woodchip. A paternalistic religious group that says "men" are the leaders and women should be subservient to them. I guess that's right up your alley to stomp on those feminazis you so hate. Makes on wonder how she even became a judge, unless her hubby gave her "permission".

And RBG was Jewish. As much as the left is anti-semite I see being Jewish didn't bother them. whats a matter TC, a female conservative judge bother you?

I don't mind a conservative justice. I just don't want a conservative justice who may base her court decisions on the ideals of her religion and fervently believes that women must be subservient to men, you know, like in Islam? She has claimed that she won't rule from the bench using her religion and their ideals as a basis for her decisions, but most people who belong to cults really believe in what they practice. She won't be able to help herself, it's part of her belief system. Would you want a Muslim judge woody? I think not. I DO want whoever we get as a conservative judge to NOT be an unquestioning boot licking thrall of Trump's in any shape, form or fashion. Anyone he nominates and McConnell confirms right now during an election year is automatically suspect, so there is absolutely NO ONE Trump nominates that I would like.

I bet you think the facist protestors are just peaceful protestors. Why not ask the small business owners what they think of BLM and Antifa after their business's were destroyed by them. Oh wait, you're going to spring on us how white racists infiltrated them and they caused all the damage.

You mean like this Antifa guy? Oopsie, he's really a white supremacist agitator out breaking those poor businesses windows and making it LOOK LIKE it was Antifa. Plus, the guy hasn't been charged even with vandalism yet. Makes you wonder how many other white supremacists are doing the same thing? Go fly a kite woody.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... nneapolis/

Hey, you found one guy who happens to be a Hells Angel and that means all the rioters were?. Curious enough Rush Limbaugh predicted this would be the route the left would take to change the narrative as the riots are looking poorly for their side. Next you know the guy who shot the 2 LA cops will be a white supremacist in black face

Speaking of white supremacists, that guy I pointed out who was caught agitating in a Minneapolis BLM protest was not a one off example. There are more of these bastards going into BLM rallies and fomenting violence and destruction. And remember, the younger Boogaloo Bois HATE the police and all of government and are definitely white nationalists, not Antifa. All these extreme white nationalist groups are now being referred to as " accelerationists" and they are definitely infiltrating and becoming violently active in most, if not all, of the BLM protests. Hell, we had Trumptards in trucks in Portland running over protestors and spraying them with pepper spray just for enjoyment's sake. So quit solely blaming Antifa to fit your damn Rush Limbaugh narrative woody and start with cleaning your own political house before throwing stones.

https://www.justsecurity.org/70497/far- ... remacists/

https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/a ... 53662.html

https://www.complex.com/life/2020/07/wh ... gate-riots

As for the left being antisemitic, better look in yours AND Trump's own closet right now woody, because the last time I heard the most recent antisemitic comments, it's come from white people, most of them Trump supporters, yelling "white power" and "Jews will not replace us" as a badge of honor. You only have to watch the first few minutes of the second video to get the gist.

[Krom]

I always wonder, don't McConnell, Trump, et al. care about their legacy or how future historians will treat them? I wonder the same about full-blown authoritarians such as Xi Jinping. Do they truly think that they are on the right side of history, or do they just not care?

Hasn't McConnell been in the senate for 36 years? Its pretty clear he and his electorate are well insulated from reality and probably do honestly think they are on the right side of history.

It gets even more amusing when you remember one of the big things Trump goes after is "the deep state". Like who do conservatives think is "the deep state"? Do they just not notice that their collective of senators have literally been in office for centuries?

[Top Gun]

And RBG was Jewish. As much as the left is anti-semite I see being Jewish didn't bother them. whats a matter TC, a female conservative judge bother you?

Batshit crazy person says what?

Ohhhh, I see, you're actually ★■◆●ing delusional enough to believe that Republicans give a ★■◆● about Jewish people just because they support Netanyahu's disgusting apartheid regime in an attempt to bring about biblical Armageddon and fulfill their fundie death cult. Lol. Such an informed voter.

Hey, you found one guy who happens to be a Hells Angel and that means all the rioters were?. Curious enough Rush Limbaugh predicted this would be the route the left would take to change the narrative as the riots are looking poorly for their side. Next you know the guy who shot the 2 LA cops will be a white supremacist in black face

Holy ★■◆● we found the one person who still takes Rush Limbaugh seriously.

First you have to ask yourself how legacy is measured and by who.

Anyone with a functioning brain. Or soul.

[Ferno]

I bet you think the facist protestors are just peaceful protestors. Why not ask the small business owners what they think of BLM and Antifa after their business's were destroyed by them. Oh wait, you're going to spring on us how white racists infiltrated them and they caused all the damage.

Didn't you tell us at one time you served in Vietnam? Well, looks like that's still a lie because no vet would ever say "facist protestors".

And it's spelt "fascist", Ralph. Hell, by their very nature, fascists are against protesters. Your little dig doesn't work in the real world.

Now, before you try and get your digs in (and I use that term loosely), I know actual vets, both from modern theatres and vietnam, and current serving personnel. None of them would ever say that because it would be disrespectful to the constitution they have sworn to uphold.

[woodchip]

I bet you think the facist protestors are just peaceful protestors. Why not ask the small business owners what they think of BLM and Antifa after their business's were destroyed by them. Oh wait, you're going to spring on us how white racists infiltrated them and they caused all the damage.

Didn't you tell us at one time you served in Vietnam? Well, looks like that's still a lie because no vet would ever say "facist protestors".

And it's spelt "fascist", Ralph. Hell, by their very nature, fascists are against protesters. Your little dig doesn't work in the real world.

Now, before you try and get your digs in (and I use that term loosely), I know actual vets, both from modern theatres and vietnam, and current serving personnel. None of them would ever say that because it would be disrespectful to the constitution they have sworn to uphold.

Well obviously what few of your brain cells remain undamaged from drug use seem to be trying to function...are not up to the task. I bet you know just thousands of vet to make your broad sweeping statement. I suspect you know what? 5? And I also suspect you know exactly 0 Vietnam vets as you overlook one thing, many of them, myself included, were drafted. We perfectly well know the meaning of the word "fascist" And if you don't think we use it in today's climate, it just goes to show the bubble you live in.
Anyways I'm putting a number of you on ignore as it looks like you prefer name calling to actual discussion but then this is what you did with Will and TB. I'm sure by doing so it makes you feel self important. Good luck.

[Ferno]

Ah, there it is. Took a running joke I started years ago and ended up thinking my brain is fried. Projection is fun, eh?

We perfectly well know the meaning of the word "fascist"

No you don't. We all know you don't, but you seem to be convinced you do. If you did, you'd turn against the shitgibbon in command. The brass did. As for Will and TB? They left on their own. You give me too much credit.

One more thing. Actual military, serving or not, don't just ignore people they don't like.. like you just did.

prefer name calling to actual discussion

Well obviously what few of your brain cells remain undamaged from drug use seem to be trying to function.

and that's just from today. Your post history from the last half-decade is loaded with name calling. Your anti-hilliary obsession is a front-runner. So, you can't put that one on me. You never were interested in discussion.

[Top Gun]

Anyways I'm putting a number of you on ignore as it looks like you prefer name calling to actual discussion but then this is what you did with Will and TB. I'm sure by doing so it makes you feel self important. Good luck.

*posts sheer drooling idiocy, gets shot down for it, cries and takes his ball home with him*

[Krom]

Uh huh, yeah. The amount of brain damage caused by smoking weed is nothing compared to the loss of brain function caused by drinking the conservative kool-aid for 30 years.

[Ferno]

Anyways I'm putting a number of you on ignore as it looks like you prefer name calling to actual discussion but then this is what you did with Will and TB. I'm sure by doing so it makes you feel self important. Good luck.

*posts sheer drooling idiocy, gets shot down for it, cries and takes his ball home with him*

pure pwnage.

[Tunnelcat]

Didn't you hear woody, if you'd been captured or killed in Vietnam, you'd be a "loser" or "sucker" in Donald Trump's book. He wouldn't even visit your grave if you were buried in the U.S., let alone a foreign country. I mean, the bastard even threatened to disown his own son if he ever joined the military. And you think Ferno has been smoking too much. Good Gawd!

https://www.alternet.org/2020/09/heres- ... the-world/

And this from his niece, Mary Trump. Maybe you should read her book woody. If even 1/3 of it is true about Donald Trump, it's horrifying.

“Anybody who is surprised by Donald’s comments is once again letting him off the hook when he has time after time demonstrated himself to be nothing but an anti-American, anti-military traitor to this country....”

In fact, this veteran has drunk deep from the Trump kool-aid well too. If this poor man had been a Vietnam Vet, I'd a thought he was woody out to shoot everyone who hates Trump. By the way it's not unpatriotic to oppose a despot abusing the power of office for his own gain. In fact, those who DO oppose Trump are the true patriots and lovers of the Constitution because they, and I, see what this man is really doing to our nation in his lust for power. Now I know why someone like Hitler rose to power, and kept that power to the cruel bitter end, because the German people just quit thinking for themselves and followed him to the bitter end like he was their savior. Open your eyes woody, before Trump ruins our great nation.

[Jeff250]

First you have to ask yourself how legacy is measured and by who.

Future generations. As a preview, young people today.

[Ferno]

TC: If he even tried to level a gun at me, I'd have no problem disarming him. To his ilk, I'm as evil as communists from the 60's. I've dealt with punks before, some bigger than him, and he'd be no different.

[vision]

Golly, woodchip seems really unhappy. Didn't Trump "Make America Great Again"? Or did the "Deep State" prevent it? Gosh, if Trump (the best president) can't overthrow the Deep State, who can? What a conundrum!

[Vander]

McConnell isn't a hypocrite. He's doing the exact same thing now as he did in 2016, the maximum exercise of his power. And if you believed anything he said in 2016, or expected that he would hold himself to any standards he put forth in 2016, shame on you.

[woodchip]

Uh huh, yeah. The amount of brain damage caused by smoking weed is nothing compared to the loss of brain function caused by drinking the conservative kool-aid for 30 years.

Funny, I had a statistics prof in college that did work in that area, seemed to think otherwise

[woodchip]

Didn't you hear woody, if you'd been captured or killed in Vietnam, you'd be a "loser" or "sucker" in Donald Trump's book. He wouldn't even visit your grave if you were buried in the U.S., let alone a foreign country. I mean, the bastard even threatened to disown his own son if he ever joined the military. And you think Ferno has been smoking too much. Good Gawd!

Well TC, problem you on the left always believe what you are told without checking. I strongly suggest you use a browser other than google;

Jeffrey Goldberg, the editor-in-chief of The Atlantic, admitted that a key detail of his article about Trump could be wrong during an interview with CNN on Sunday.

Nobody who was with him, even Bolton who has no love for him, states Trump never said it. So who you going to believe, someone who uses anonymous
sources and then admits they "may" be wrong...or the people who were actually there?

[woodchip]

McConnell isn't a hypocrite. He's doing the exact same thing now as he did in 2016, the maximum exercise of his power. And if you believed anything he said in 2016, or expected that he would hold himself to any standards he put forth in 2016, shame on you.

I agree. He is a politician and is doing exactly what the Dems would do if the situation was reversed.

[Vander]

Nah. Republicans are off the deep end with this ★■◆●.

[Tunnelcat]

Didn't you hear woody, if you'd been captured or killed in Vietnam, you'd be a "loser" or "sucker" in Donald Trump's book. He wouldn't even visit your grave if you were buried in the U.S., let alone a foreign country. I mean, the bastard even threatened to disown his own son if he ever joined the military. And you think Ferno has been smoking too much. Good Gawd!

Well TC, problem you on the left always believe what you are told without checking. I strongly suggest you use a browser other than google;

Jeffrey Goldberg, the editor-in-chief of The Atlantic, admitted that a key detail of his article about Trump could be wrong during an interview with CNN on Sunday.

Nobody who was with him, even Bolton who has no love for him, states Trump never said it. So who you going to believe, someone who uses anonymous
sources and then admits they "may" be wrong...or the people who were actually there?

Well there is something called "precedence" and "habit" and that people tend to always think, say and do the same things over and over as part of their character and speech and Trump is no exception. It's on the record that Trump has called at least one military hero a "loser", John McCain. The birdbrain quoted an article that quoted his own damn tweet saying that McCain was a loser. I mean, you can't get any more straight from the ★■◆●ing horse's mouth. So frankly, I believe he said those things and I base that on Trump's own past statements and character, I believe that he called all those dead vets "losers", because that's in Trump's character. And FYI, he really didn't want to go visit all those dead vets because he was afraid of damaging his horrific excuse of a comb over hairdo in the pouring rain. He even had the gall to write off 70K in hair expenses for TV in his taxes. Damn, I wish I could write off 70K of ANYTHING in my own taxes, let along even make that much income, especially if it was a personal expense.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-t ... n-a-loser/

The fact that he didn't do it in front of Bolton or several other people does not make it fiction. Those people weren't there with Trump all the time either. In fact, whoever DID leak those comments probably fears for his or her job and reputation and has not come forward out of shear self preservation. To give you an idea of what it's like working for a certifiable egomaniacal narcissist authoritarian, Trump's own former Chief of Staff said this:

Telling the president that things he wanted to do were illegal was like 'French kissing a chainsaw'.

https://www.businessinsider.com/john-ke ... 020-8?op=1

I get that you want a strong leader who won't back down. That's fine. But the man you support doesn't support you. He didn't even support the idea of his own son wanting to join the military and threatened to disown him if he did so. Trump's own family has stated that fact. He's using you to keep his power. He's also pretty much certifiable right now, because after tonight's presidential debate, I'm ashamed that this vile excuse for a man is even our current president. Holy Mother of God!

[Tunnelcat]

Oh how apropos. RBG's schadenfreude from the grave perhaps?

https://www.npr.org/sections/latest-upd ... t-for-barr

[Tunnelcat]

It appears that Amy Coney Barrett is not really Trump's choice for RBG's vacated SCOTUS position, but in all probability is AG Barr's selection. The speech he gave a Notre Dame is downright scary. This man is on a Catholic Jihad to remake America in his extreme Catholic image and Barrett, belonging to a more extreme sect of Catholicism, fits the bill. No wonder he is willing to prostrate himself to an idiot like Trump, because HE has his own agenda. I have a question for him concerning his Catholic vision for America. How about the inequalities you will create for people of different faiths or who have no faith if your ideal is ever implemented as national policy you bastard? Purge them from our country like so much Godless garbage?

https://www.justice.gov/opa/speech/atto ... ter-ethics