Stop hating on LGBT persons

[Ferno]

https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge ... 92ceb.html

No, no clever commentary or wry hot takes here. Just straight up disappointment.

Right wingers should not and cannot treat people like this. Christian values? I don't see any here. Just horrible treatment of people

[Tunnelcat]

Well, they can't win any other way with stupid people than go full on culture warrior. To do that, they've been chipping at the wall between church and state ever since Nixon's Southern Strategy. Then Newt Gingrich began the Republican Revolution and we have him to thank for the Replublican Party and the Trumpism we have now.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... me/570832/

[Darth Wang]

Sorry, I know this is serious, but the thread title keeps making me think of Sammyclassicsonicfan and his "stop hating on Sonic" rant...

[TheWhat]

That’s a poorly written article, it was more like a gossip column complete with quotes from Facebook posts.

[Tunnelcat]

This should scare people in any free nation and not just LGBTQ people either. Top picture, Tennessee in 2022. Bottom picture, Nazi Germany in the 1930's.

[Spidey]

As long as they are not burning public property or someone else's private property...who cares about their little symbolic gesture?

Now if they are burning books that belong to a public library, that is a different story.

[Ferno]

Don't even try to justify or defend that ★■◆●, spidey. Don't even.

That literally was one of the reasons why we fought world war 2.

[Spidey]

In Germany the Nazis were burning books that they confiscated from people, public libraries and books stores etc, I would never try to justify that.

But who gives a flying ★■◆● if some idiots go out and buy some books and burn them?

People burn flags too...so what?

[Ferno]

Because it's the same thing.

And the flag burning is not even remotely relevant. My god man, come on.

[Spidey]

In the US we have this thing called free speech. (the first amendment)

Under the first you can...

Burn a flag.
Place a crucifix in a jar of piss and call it art.
Burn a book.
Call Republicans fascists.
etc...

The irony of the burning in Tennessee posted by TC is a religious group burning copies of Harry Potter...a classic story of good over evil.

And remember, burning books and banning books are not the same thing...I do not condone banning books, but I do support the first regardless of how offended people get including myself.

Burning a book = free speech.
Banning a book = violation of free speech.

[Xamindar]

Wow the irony. I got sidetracked when installing dxx-rebirth on my steam deck and started reading endlessly about WWII on wikipedia for hours (that stupid "Luxtorpeda" word). I come here, log in for the first time in years, and this is the top topic.

I'm always amazed of the lefts capacity for justifying their evil using straw man arguments and blaming everyone else for the atrocities they are committing.
-The way they are (medicinally) castrating children to change their gender identity/puberty. Future society will look back at this like we do lobotomy now.
-murder unborn children (Nazis would be proud of this, specially for non-aryan races)
-rioting in the streets in the name of "peaceful blm protests" with pre-delivered piles of bricks to boot!
-attempting and succeeding in propaganda and indoctrination in our school system (another thing nazis are very proud of, socialists as well)
-the various institutions of "reverse-racism" against white people and others such as affirmative action, progressivism, reparations for history no one had part in, wokeism, etc.
-control of the mainstream media and social media with aggressive silencing of any opposing opinions. Nazi germany all the way up to modern communist states love this.
-using government police (FBI) and IRS to harass political opponents and anyone else who supports them.
-politicizing and in some cases allowing to happen, mass shootings in the sole goal of disarming the people so they can more easily exact total control.
-calling your political opposition "deplorable" similar to how the Nazis called other races "Untermenschen" to ease the acceptance of mass genocide of said peoples.
-and most grave in my view, is frauding the presidential election to instill their own dictator over the United States in opposition to the people's vote, justifying it because "the current president is a nazi and he must be removed at any cost".

Those are all I can think of off the top of my head and I am sure there are more. But that should be enough to scare anyone who believes in the US constitution and values of a free society.

[Krom]

Cool story bro, I liked the part where the whole ★■◆●ing thing was made up.

Seriously LMAO. Would be totally amazing if "the lefts" would actually do any of that.

[Darth Wang]

I'd just like to point out that the Nazis banned abortion for "Aryan" women.

[Ferno]

In the US we have this thing called free speech. (the first amendment)

Under the first you can...

Burn a flag.
Place a crucifix in a jar of piss and call it art.
Burn a book.
Call Republicans fascists.
etc...

The irony of the burning in Tennessee posted by TC is a religious group burning copies of Harry Potter...a classic story of good over evil.

And remember, burning books and banning books are not the same thing...I do not condone banning books, but I do support the first regardless of how offended people get including myself.

Burning a book = free speech.
Banning a book = violation of free speech.

Lemme stop you right there. Free speech, your free speech is the ability to express an opinion without the government retaliating against you for it.

Burning a book is NOT free speech and therefore not protected under your constitution. These false equivalencies are getting tiresome. And speaking of banning books...



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A whole load of nonsense and QAnon bull★■◆●.

Did you seriously think you can come in here and dump this on us without being raked over the coals for it? As soon as I saw "the left" and.. what was it... 'forceful castration', I realized it was nothing but a gigantic mountain of QAnon points.

There is no debating that, there is no discussing that. It's gone into the trash. Where it belongs. Go back to facebook or wherever you came from.

[Top Gun]

Why did the Descent community always attract so many dumb rednecks?

[Krom]

Why did the Descent community always attract so many dumb rednecks?

Because it is on the internet.

Really I don't think it is much worse than any other place you can easily find online.

[Tunnelcat]

As long as they are not burning public property or someone else's private property...who cares about their little symbolic gesture?

Now if they are burning books that belong to a public library, that is a different story.

Spidey, my grandfather-in-law fled Germany in 1939. He was a scientist (a hated intellectual)and feared for his family's life, because his last name sounded Jewish (it's not). He saw what was happening with the fervored book burnings and Kristallnacht, both which were being used to whip up hate and passions against the Jews. In our country, we're seeing the same thing, against a different set of people, mostly LGBTQ and even a little Jewish hate added in for good measure. Most of the books being burned are the same ones being pulled from public school libraries. Maus for crying out loud! When ideas and knowledge are publically attacked, our nation will end up poorer, more ignorant and more hateful because of it. By the way, we now have nylon courtesy of his work at DuPont.

[Spidey]

Yea, what can I say...freedom is a double edged sword.

[Top Gun]

Because it is on the internet.

Really I don't think it is much worse than any other place you can easily find online.

It's funny though, because I've been involved in the FreeSpace community for nearly as long as I have here, and I probably spend more time there these days. And despite being "sister" franchises made by a lot of the same people, it's remarkable how much of a difference there is in demographics between the two. Just one of those weird things I guess.

[Tunnelcat]

Yea, what can I say...freedom is a double edged sword.

Is it? Or is freedom a myth claimed for only those with the most swords? You've heard people say that if someone had just assassinated Hitler before he came to power, WWII wouldn't have happened. But I say, that's impossible given what I've seen in our own country today. Once a movement starts, even a heinous one, it has continuing momentum through it's followers and propaganda. Even if Trump were to die for some reason tomorrow, his foul legacy will keep right on going out of sheer momentum and desire for power promulgated all by his followers. War is the unfortunate result that we humans just can't see to quit. Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. Those who deliberately scrub history apparently want to rewrite it in a do over.

[Darth Wang]

Because it is on the internet.

Really I don't think it is much worse than any other place you can easily find online.

It's funny though, because I've been involved in the FreeSpace community for nearly as long as I have here, and I probably spend more time there these days. And despite being "sister" franchises made by a lot of the same people, it's remarkable how much of a difference there is in demographics between the two. Just one of those weird things I guess.

I quit the Freespace community when it got taken over by weebs

[Krom]

I quit the Freespace community when it got taken over by weebs

Someone with the alias "Darth Wang" is probably one of the last people who should be ★■◆● talking about weebs lol.

[Darth Wang]

I quit the Freespace community when it got taken over by weebs

Someone with the alias "Darth Wang" is probably one of the last people who should be ★■◆● talking about weebs lol.

I don't follow

[Tunnelcat]

So the Freespace community was taken over by obsessive lovers of Japanese culture, according to Darth Wang?

[Top Gun]

Someone makes one mod featuring space elf waifus and suddenly that's a bridge too far...

[Ferno]

Speaking of free speech, and bodily autonomy in general...

[Vander]

This would appear to also make abstinence education illegal? Though I kinda doubt anyone is looking to bring *those* cases.

[Tunnelcat]

The curtailing of women's reproductive rights and book burning, all Fascist ideals. Now Italy has elected a Neo-Fascist leader and some of our own stupid Republicans are applauding it like it was the best thing since sliced bread. WTF is wrong with these people? Have they forgotten we fought a HUGE world war to get rid of these assholes? This country is certainly headed in the same direction and Republicans want more. People like me are going to have to go deep underground. If they don't take a drubbing in November just from their abortion stance, Canada better start building their own border wall just to keep out Neo-Fascist Americans, because y'all are not going to like having us as neighbors anymore.

https://www.rawstory.com/critics-blast- ... -minister/

[Darth Wang]

Someone makes one mod featuring space elf waifus and suddenly that's a bridge too far...

Last time that I checked they had like half a dozen of those crappy mods, and a bunch of weeb ★■◆● all over most posters' signatures and avatars, and other cringy stuff.

But to get back on topic, I'm voting in the midterms, but I live in a pretty solidly blue state, so my votes probably won't have much overall impact. But both of my parents are Republicans (with my mom being a full-blown Trump cultist) so I can at least cancel some of their votes with mine.

[woodchip]

https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge ... 92ceb.html

No, no clever commentary or wry hot takes here. Just straight up disappointment.

Right wingers should not and cannot treat people like this. Christian values? I don't see any here. Just horrible treatment of people

And yet you have no problem with 1st graders being taken to to transgender night clubs or parents being labeled as terrorists because they dare speak out against their school board. And just so you know I don't agree with how your link was handles. Also note how I responded without using your limited lexicon of 4 letter words to describe you.

[woodchip]

This should scare people in any free nation and not just LGBTQ people either. Top picture, Tennessee in 2022. Bottom picture, Nazi Germany in the 1930's.

The Tennessee crowd wasn't throwing the porn approved books from the school library? You trying to be agent of the left TC? Where's the pic showing the left banning books like "To Lill A Mockingbird"?

[woodchip]

Cool story bro, I liked the part where the whole ★■◆●ing thing was made up.

Seriously LMAO. Would be totally amazing if "the lefts" would actually do any of that.

Krom, I don't know where you get your info, but why would you be amazed? What specifically is untrue?. Let me throw in some other things:

Do you know it is a federal crime to protest outside a SCOTU's home yet none of those protesters were charged.
Do you know special prosecutor Durhan found that the so called Steele source to inform on Trump and the whole Steele Dossier was made up fantasy? "Durham alleges that it was Dolan, not Russian sources, who gave Danchenko key allegations to put into the Steele dossier, including some of its most salacious claims."
When was the last time you heard about the FBI raiding a Dem home and arresting the occupants?Do you know Hillary should of been arrested under the Espionage Act and Comey didn't arrest her because he didn't think Hillary had any "Intent" to use the classified documents If you buy Comey's statement then I suggest you read the espionage act.
I could do more but you will run to your liberal news sites and think they are correct.

[woodchip]

Yea, what can I say...freedom is a double edged sword.

Is it? Or is freedom a myth claimed for only those with the most swords? You've heard people say that if someone had just assassinated Hitler before he came to power, WWII wouldn't have happened. But I say, that's impossible given what I've seen in our own country today. Once a movement starts, even a heinous one, it has continuing momentum through it's followers and propaganda. Even if Trump were to die for some reason tomorrow, his foul legacy will keep right on going out of sheer momentum and desire for power promulgated all by his followers. War is the unfortunate result that we humans just can't see to quit. Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. Those who deliberately scrub history apparently want to rewrite it in a do over.

And TC, you see nothing heinous in the Dems? My aren't you totally sucked in by the liberal Jedi Mind Tricks.

[woodchip]

This would appear to also make abstinence education illegal? Though I kinda doubt anyone is looking to bring *those* cases.

what ever happened to the big uproar over the cost of birth control pills? Isn't the pill the better than partial birth abortion?

[vision]

YES! I've been filling up my right-wing propaganda BINGO card and I've almost won. So far I have:

* Trans-anything
* Steele dossier
* FREE SPACE
* Buttery Males

Just one more woodchip please!

[woodchip]

The curtailing of women's reproductive rights and book burning, all Fascist ideals. Now Italy has elected a Neo-Fascist leader and some of our own stupid Republicans are applauding it like it was the best thing since sliced bread. WTF is wrong with these people? Have they forgotten we fought a HUGE world war to get rid of these assholes? This country is certainly headed in the same direction and Republicans want more. People like me are going to have to go deep underground. If they don't take a drubbing in November just from their abortion stance, Canada better start building their own border wall just to keep out Neo-Fascist Americans, because y'all are not going to like having us as neighbors anymore.

https://www.rawstory.com/critics-blast- ... -minister/

So because She believes in God, Country and Family, you cotton up to the far left when the label her a Fascist? What in Gods name do you call Biden and the left when Biden makes Fascist speech against 75 million Americans, uses the FBI to attack political opponents and ignores crimes by the left?

[Vander]

Isn't the pill the better than partial birth abortion?

You mean the pill this ID legislation appears to outlaw the discussion of? The pill that Obamacare mandated insurance coverage of, but Republicans fought and succeeded to deny? Whatever dude.

[Tunnelcat]

The Tennessee crowd wasn't throwing the porn approved books from the school library? You trying to be agent of the left TC? Where's the pic showing the left banning books like "To Lill A Mockingbird"?

Do you realize what books were being burned? Harry Potter, Twilight and anything this far right Christian pastor Locke considers even remotely witchcrafty. What's next, burning witches at the stake like they did in the good old days and maybe even those demon gay people too? Oh, and some Atheists had a little fun at that impromptu Fascist-Christian book burning rally.

And TC, you see nothing heinous in the Dems? My aren't you totally sucked in by the liberal Jedi Mind Tricks.

I guess if you lap up Fox News propaganda and some of the other extreme election denying crazy Q Anon right wing crap all day, you WOULD believe that Biden is some sort of dictator who's sole purpose is to get back at Trump. The truth? Maybe he's going senile, but never an election denying autocrat like your favorite egomaniacal Trump. Doing a little projecting now I see?

And yet you have no problem with 1st graders being taken to to transgender night clubs...

It may come as a shock to you, but I don't believe a school trip to a "gay bar" is appropriate. I don't believe taking students to ANY bar is appropriate either. The only place I'd consider appropriate as field trip for students old enough to understand history (one year old is too young IMO) would be to the Stonewall Bar in New York, but that's cultural history that shouldn't be ignored, stamped out or forgotten. So yes, that Florida teacher went too far.

So because She believes in God, Country and Family, you cotton up to the far left when the label her a Fascist? What in Gods name do you call Biden and the left when Biden makes Fascist speech against 75 million Americans, uses the FBI to attack political opponents and ignores crimes by the left?

First off, I don't "cotton up" to the far left. Bernie Sanders just speaking makes me cringe. But Giorgia Meloni court's the Fascists of Italy because it serves her craving for power, you know, like Trump? And that's worshiping God how, craving power? Trump courts our own brand of local Neo-Fascists, who ran over and killed a protestor on purpose and marched carrying torches shouting: "We will not be forgotten" in a little antisemitic cry. How in the hell is that "family values"? By the way, Italy has never quite gotten over Fascism, unlike Germany, although they are dealing with their own rise of the Neo-Fascists. And since when are "Christian values" something that should be forced on the rest of us like a national law? I remember something in the CONSTITUTION about the separation of church and state, or do you and your ilk like to ignore that little detail? Christians are free to go to church and worship their God. But in these people's eyes, LGBTQ people are nothing but dirt who's lives are evil and should be stamped out and they are willing to use or create laws in our own country to make that happen.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/how- ... lead-italy

Also, you seem to ignore the fact that Trump weaponized the DOJ to use for his own political witch hunts. I want you TO PROVE Merrick Garland is using the DOJ as Biden's tool against Trump. I want you TO PROVE that the FBI is Biden's lapdog. You also seem to keep ignoring that Trump actually had classified government documents sitting in his home like some kind of prize. Documents that he had no right or authority to remove from the White House or take from the government at all. And contrary to Trump's irrational thinking, a president cannot declassify government documents by just thinking about it. There's a process that's required to be legally performed and even Trump's own lawyers can't provide evidence of Trump actually going through that process to any of the federal judges involved in the FBI's current investigation. One judge even said to Trump and his lawyers: "You can't have your cake and eat it too" in a brilliant smack down legal opinion.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... department

[Darth Wang]

Where's the pic showing the left banning books like "To Lill A Mockingbird"?

Never read that one...

Although now I'm curious about what it means to "lill" something.

[Tunnelcat]

Where's the pic showing the left banning books like "To Lill A Mockingbird"?

Never read that one...

Although now I'm curious about what it means to "lill" something.

Actually, that book was banned in Burbank, CA. So Gavin Newsom's mocking right wingers when a city in his own state did that is hilarious.