What the world has come to...

[Ferno]

Hey look, a curve!

[Isaac]

The jpeg is flat. Checkmate

[Tunnelcat]

Ferno, where's the location of that picture? It's wild.

[TigerRaptor]

Google say Lake Pontchartrain.

https://www.zmescience.com/science/news ... rth-04233/

[Tunnelcat]

Impressive. Really shows the curvature of the earth visually. I'd hate to have to maintain those towers though.

[Neo]

I understand Newtonian gravity so I don't even use that argument. I also understand that both Newtonian gravity and General Relativity are not real. Okay, most flat earthers don't know about gravity. I do now but that's another thing I won't talk about. It's too weird, and I don't want irresponsible or dangerous people to know about it. Besides you wouldn't believe me, or you wouldn't act like it.

[Top Gun]

I understand Newtonian gravity so I don't even use that argument. I also understand that both Newtonian gravity and General Relativity are not real. Okay, most flat earthers don't know about gravity. I do now but that's another thing I won't talk about. It's too weird, and I don't want irresponsible or dangerous people to know about it. Besides you wouldn't believe me, or you wouldn't act like it.

Translation: "I'm a stark raving lunatic."

[Isaac]

I understand Newtonian gravity so I don't even use that argument. I also understand that both Newtonian gravity and General Relativity are not real. Okay, most flat earthers don't know about gravity. I do now but that's another thing I won't talk about. It's too weird, and I don't want irresponsible or dangerous people to know about it. Besides you wouldn't believe me, or you wouldn't act like it.

But you're totally find with ball-moon theory, right?

[Neo]

Yes I think the moon is a sphere.

[Isaac]

Yes I think the moon is a sphere.

So you look up and see the moon rotating like a ball?

[Neo]

No, it just looks like it’s round like a ball.

[Isaac]

No, it just looks like it’s round like a ball.

Does it rotate? What makes it look like a round ball and not a round disk?

[Neo]

Good question. If it's a ball then it's rotating because we can't even see the other side of it. It's the features on the moon that make it look like a sphere to me.

[Isaac]

Good question. If it's a ball then it's rotating because we can't even see the other side of it.

But wouldn't we see the back of it sometimes?

[Neo]

Not if it’s rotating at a certain angular velocity or set a certain way on its invisible track like in the book of Enoch.

You might be right.

[Isaac]

You might be right.

So the moon disk is plausible?

[Neo]

I don't think it is.

[Isaac]

I don't think it is.

Because you think it looks like a ball? Did it occur to you that a disk can have elevation?

[Neo]

elevation?

[Tunnelcat]

He means it can have a three dimensional surface, not just flat as a pancake.

[Neo]

Solar eclipses seem to disprove it.

[Isaac]

Solar eclipses seem to disprove it.

The moon could have "back face culling" so it could still cast a shadow, even if the light source was from behind the moon.

[Neo]

Are you saying we’re inside a computer program?

[Isaac]

Are you saying we’re inside a computer program?

I'm just saying a disc can cast a shadow.

[Neo]

It can’t cast a shadow on the sun during a solar eclipse though.

[Isaac]

So you know umbrellas? Image the umbrella is a disc. Now imagine you use a disc like an umbrella. Now imagine you take the umbrella to the beach, but it's still a disc. You see how it can cast a shadow?

If you want to try this for real, get a plate from your kitchen and take it outside. Then hold it up to the sun. You'll see that it blocks the sun!!! If you can't do it, let me know and I'll make a video showing how the experiment works so you can replicate it.

[Neo]

I’m saying people at other locations on the earth wouldn’t see a circular object blocking the sun, it would look like it’s partially blocked by a disk.

[Isaac]

I’m saying people at other locations on the earth wouldn’t see a circular object blocking the sun, it would look like it’s partially blocked by a disk.

Discs are normally circular, no?

[Tunnelcat]

So I guess the Apollo 13 astronauts that had to slingshot around to moon using the moon's gravity to return to earth, who actually saw the far side of the moon when they did, doesn't count as proof of a ball shape? Actually, does any mission where we landed on the moon count as proof either?

This is a photo of both sides of the moon. It faces earth all the time because it spins at the same rate as it's rotation around the earth. It's far more cratered because it always faces into deep space. Don't you think the astronauts would've noticed an edge if it were a disk?

[Isaac]

Neo, tell TC what you think of NASA.

[Tunnelcat]

Oh, I already know what he thinks of NASA. I guess even a picture is not be believed if it comes from said conspiratorial moon faking government agency.

[woodchip]

NASA is run by liberals...why should he believe them.

[Tunnelcat]

Well, since you consider all scientists as liberals, I guess that's true in your mind. However, you're forgetting that most of the astronauts came from the military Air Force. I seriously doubt they're all liberals. They also had no issue trusting those scientists and the craft they designed with their lives. Yes, many died, but that's the hazard one takes when going into space sitting inside new untested technology.

[Neo]

Neo, tell TC what you think of NASA.

What I think of NASA is irrelevant.

Tunnelcat basically just answered your question, Isaac, and I know you believe in globe earth so you should be content now.

[Tunnelcat]

Taken a million miles from earth by the cameras on the Deep Space Climate Observatory (DSCOVR) satellite. The moon orbiting around a spinning like a ball earth, NOT an earth spinning like a disk. How many miles is it from earth to the theoretical firmament Neo?

[Tunnelcat]

To continue the flat earth discussions in the proper thread, I'll ask Neo one question about a statement he made in the climate thread. He said he has evidence to prove a flat earth. I'd like him to show me that evidence.

[Neo]

If you want knowledge in life you have to find it yourself. If you don't care about it, then that's your problem.

[Tunnelcat]

That's what I thought. I have found knowledge. It just doesn't correlate with yours in any shape, form or fashion.

[Darth Wang]

You're not a moron. You just have different beliefs. However, you're very rigid and narrow focused in those beliefs and refuse to open your mind to other possibilities. Now if someone could take you up in a space ship of some sort and fly you around the planets, maybe you'd broaden your set of beliefs.

No, he'd call it a Satanic CGI illusion.

Honestly, if there was a "firmament", how come we can't bounce laser and radio signals off it?

[Neo]

On the contrary. I’d love to go up in a spaceship if it were possible. You can bounce signals off of it. How else would one do it? There is no “ionosphere.” You just answered your own question.