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[Top Gun]

"What if the latest buzzwords could sell product to rubes?"

[Jeff250]

I still use Ubuntu after all these years (since 2005), even though it is a bit "corporate" these days. Debian-based distros are generally the path of least resistance just because a *.deb is one of the most common ways to distribute linux software.

You don't feel there are more options under the AUR repo?

I don't know which has more (or how to even define exactly the question), but there are tradeoffs using AUR packages versus first party ones. The AUR packages are third party, which has pros and cons. The pro is that you can get packaging issues fixed via typical open source methods. The con is that you have no first party support.

More broadly, I don't like rolling release distros. I like being able to have more control over when I have large updates that might break something or cause me to have to learn something new at an inconvenient time. I also don't think that rolling release is a good model for servers, so you would still need to learn and use another distro for those. Rolling release distros also tend to get into a non-updatable state if you fall too far behind on updates. I wouldn't want to put Arch on anything that might be sitting idle on a shelf for months at a time. The advantages of rolling release don't really appeal to me either. For instance, in my eyes, my desktop environment of choice already solved the problem of the perfect desktop UI ages ago, so I am not expecting nor desiring any new innovations in that area.

[Isaac]

I still use Ubuntu after all these years (since 2005), even though it is a bit "corporate" these days. Debian-based distros are generally the path of least resistance just because a *.deb is one of the most common ways to distribute linux software.

You don't feel there are more options under the AUR repo?

I don't know which has more (or how to even define exactly the question), but there are tradeoffs using AUR packages versus first party ones. The AUR packages are third party, which has pros and cons. The pro is that you can get packaging issues fixed via typical open source methods. The con is that you have no first party support.

More broadly, I don't like rolling release distros. I like being able to have more control over when I have large updates that might break something or cause me to have to learn something new at an inconvenient time. I also don't think that rolling release is a good model for servers, so you would still need to learn and use another distro for those. Rolling release distros also tend to get into a non-updatable state if you fall too far behind on updates. I wouldn't want to put Arch on anything that might be sitting idle on a shelf for months at a time. The advantages of rolling release don't really appeal to me either. For instance, in my eyes, my desktop environment of choice already solved the problem of the perfect desktop UI ages ago, so I am not expecting nor desiring any new innovations in that area.

Just to defend AUR, I see it as just 1 of 4 different sources. The standard pacman repos work just the same as you'd expect from a deb from launchpad. Then you have snap and flatpack repos. AUR shouldn't be what your whole system is built on, rather just a few programs that you want compiled on your system. I'd pick AUR over snap any day just to avoid the whole container-like aspect.
Also being rolling release and arch based isn't always the same thing as there are non-rolling release distros that are arch based (I have no idea what they are, but they exist to help my argument ) and use AUR.


But there's no wrong way to use linux.

"What if the latest buzzwords could sell product to rubes?"

"Bruh, we'll just take buzz words and reuse them to mean a different thing!"

"COPILOT + PC"

"PRO"

"RETINA"

"AI"

"also AI just add AI more"

"Shitty LED?...QLED... Almost looks like OLED "

[Jeff250]

Just to defend AUR, I see it as just 1 of 4 different sources. The standard pacman repos work just the same as you'd expect from a deb from launchpad. Then you have snap and flatpack repos. AUR shouldn't be what your whole system is built on, rather just a few programs that you want compiled on your system.

Sure, I was just speaking narrowly to its use versus first party packages (e.g., the official Steam *.deb that Valve distributes versus the unofficial package in the AUR repos). The advantage of debian-based distros is that you can use those official first party *.deb packages. With Arch, you would have to use unofficial third party ones.

I'd pick AUR over snap any day just to avoid the whole container-like aspect.

Yeah I hate snap too...

Also being rolling release and arch based isn't always the same thing as there are non-rolling release distros that are arch based (I have no idea what they are, but they exist to help my argument ) and use AUR.

Interesting, I hadn't heard of those. I guess I would wonder if you could safely use AUR without breakage or if the implicit assumption behind many of the packages in that repo is that you are using the latest version of everything.

[Isaac]

You made me lookup what I was even installing using pacman. Because steam was available, but I never realized Arch repos don't have an official binary. It's weird because steam still gets updated, so now I wonder how they got it to work.

[Tunnelcat]

"Recall" = Spy on the user. CoPilot = Spy on the user. Data tracking for user experience improvements = Spy on the user. Microsoft Account = Spy on the user. Targeted News Feeds = Spy on the user. Holy ★■◆● Batman!

[TigerRaptor]

Has anyone heard of Blend OS? It's a combination of nine distros along with Andriod crammed into one.

https://blendos.co/

[Isaac]

Has anyone heard of Blend OS? It's a combination of nine distros along with Andriod crammed into one.

https://blendos.co/

Apparently it's a ditro designed to make using containers easier to use. So instead of using docker you could use this. It seems to be better at linux distros over the others. I don't think it contains an android container by default.

[Tunnelcat]

Don't want it, ever. CoPilot is in cyber jail and I hope it stays there. MS keeps asking me if I want it every time I open the Start Menu. NO! I'm getting tired of all this "A.I. will make things so much better for us" crap.....NOT, you jackasses! I don't need no ★■◆●ing nanny spy A.I. watching everything I do. I'm really hating Windows right now. I'm going to uninstall Edge as well it's so intrusive. Google better take note with Android for theIr phones......NO A.I. PERIOD.

[Isaac]

Don't want it, ever. CoPilot is in cyber jail and I hope it stays there. MS keeps asking me if I want it every time I open the Start Menu. NO! I'm getting tired of all this "A.I. will make things so much better for us" crap.....NOT, you jackasses! I don't need no ★■◆●ing nanny spy A.I. watching everything I do. I'm really hating Windows right now. I'm going to uninstall Edge as well it's so intrusive. Google better take note with Android for theIr phones......NO A.I. PERIOD.

I already didn't like Windows before as a daily driver. File locking should be removed in Windows XP and makes doing anything a slog in Windows. Example being, I'm working on a PDF and I have the PDF viewer open. So I adjust my xml and run my python script and the viewer updates automatically... in Linux... In Windows even the file previewer locks the file, so you NEED to close and open that pdf over and over. Or if you have a script that exports a bunch of files and you're running it again to overwrite the previeous version of that day's reports... if any of them are open, you can't just update it. You need to make sure excel is killed if it's still locked.
Also the way Windows 7 (and up) selects text "corrects" where you started selecting is both insulting and irritating... At least if any Linux distro started doing "select correct" you'd be able to easily disable it. I guarantee you NOBODY asked for "select correct".

[Tunnelcat]

The one thing I'm glad I got in the Pro version of Win 11 is that Bitlocker is disabled by default. The Home version comes with it enabled. Sometimes I think the weenies at MS think we're all a bunch of morons that need operating system handholding, so they set up everything for us. Either that or they want full control of their OS for nefarious purposes that only they know, but we can guess. I'm betting on the second reason.