Cheetos

[woodchip]

Cheetos is the disparaging nickname given to Kimberly Cheatle , head of the USSS. Bringing the Service to modern day DEI, her first thought was to proclaim she would make the hiring of 30% women a priority. Not making it the best or equipping the agents with the best equipment, but hire more women. And we could see the results of her leadership on full display at Trumps assassination attempt.First look at the female who was trying to protect Trump. Way too short. It was lucky the CS team shot the shooter as the female could only block up to Trumps shoulders. The second incident was right after Trump was loaded in the vehicle. There was a short overweight female that couldn't even holster her pistol. Obviously didn't practice enough to do so without thinking.
Then we go to the outer perimeter. Where was the aerial surveillance? Why no drones? Why was the CS team inside the building while a assassin climbed up on the roof. Cheetos said the roof was sloped and it was a safety issue. OSHA now is more important than protecting your asset? And you'll notice that the other CS team were on sloped roofs.
Then why was Trump even allowed to speak as the shooter was seen earlier and the cops were looking for him but lost track of him. If a questionable person was wandering around is it sensible to allow your asset to even get up on a exposed stage? At least wait until the person is found. So if Ms Cheatle proclaims the buck stops with her, why doesn't she resign?

[Ferno]

[Tunnelcat]

Hmmmm, MAGA is slipping. They must be running out of derogatory nicknames, like the childish pukes they are, so they're recycling. Must've gotten "Cheetos" from Michael Cohen's moniker "Cheeto-dusted cartoon villain" for Trump. It fits Trumpkins better since he's actually orange.

https://nypost.com/2024/05/14/us-news/m ... ing-hater/

[woodchip]

If that's the best you got then, then my post is correct.

[Vander]

Let me guess… Dan Bongino?

[Tunnelcat]

If that's the best you got then, then my post is correct.

No, I'm commenting on you and every MAGA dipshit out there who likes to act like a bunch of petty 6-year olds and call people names. It shows a complete lack of intelligence and decorum. You're also all a bunch of sexist pricks. You gripe about a female not holding up Trump? Maybe if fatboy lost some weight, even the men wouldn't have had trouble carrying him. Not that poor little Trumpkins couldn't walk in the first place on his own 2 feet. He only had a little hole in his ear. Poor baby.

As for Cheatle, yes, she made an almost fatal tactical error. She should either resign or be fired, it's that simple. If I were in her position and screwed up that bad, I'd tender my resignation.

[woodchip]

If that's the best you got then, then my post is correct.

No, I'm commenting on you and every MAGA dipshit out there who likes to act like a bunch of petty 6-year olds and call people names. It shows a complete lack of intelligence and decorum. You're also all a bunch of sexist pricks. You gripe about a female not holding up Trump? Maybe if fatboy lost some weight, even the men wouldn't have had trouble carrying him. Not that poor little Trumpkins couldn't walk in the first place on his own 2 feet. He only had a little hole in his ear. Poor baby.

As for Cheatle, yes, she made an almost fatal tactical error. She should either resign or be fired, it's that simple. If I were in her position and screwed up that bad, I'd tender my resignation.

You know there are a whole bunch of female MAGA types...are they sexist too? And just why are you a dipshit if you want to make america great again? I could make a whole bunch of descriptive comments on Biden and his supports but then I'm not like you.

[Vander]

And just why are you a dipshit if you want to make america great again?

Because you're a dipshit if you think supporting a fascist movement will "make America great again." Or you're a dipshit because you don't recognize that you're supporting a fascist movement. Don't be a dipshit.

[Tunnelcat]

Problem is, MAGA does NOT want to make America great again. They want a white, Christian only nation, ★■◆● the Constitution, with their vision of family. Never mind everyone else who doesn't want or fit into that tidy mold. To do that, they want to have the government regulate that ideal via repressive laws to make their vision of 'one man one woman only' marriage and family a reality. No abortion and no contraception. So what happens to everyone else in the country who doesn't want to live that ideal? Jail, death, interment camps, deportation? Do you people think we're all going to follow you like sheep? Hell no.

And if Vance has his way, no divorce is permitted and women won't be able to get out of even a violent and abusive marriage except via death. I don't think MAGA women even understand the gravity of what they're rooting for in their vision of a Christian-run paternalistic country. I sure as hell DO because our freedom is on the line. In fact, their ideal sounds positively Islamic, like in most religiously run countries. I also have to wonder what they really think of Vance's wife and I mean REALLY think, in private.

Let's not forget immigration. They want to pull an Eisenhower on steriods and deport millions of people. How are they going to accomplish that? Create a giant removal force to hunt down people that aren't white? Go into places of employment and arrest every Hispanic? Under Eisenhower, mass deportations even swept up actual American citizens. Nice job. And just what do you think that will do to their precious economy? I can give you a hint. It will collapse. Welcome to fascist America all you stupid MAGA women. You're a bunch of idiots.

[Spidey]

I vote for internment camps.

[woodchip]

TC, you obviously know nothing about Trump voters other than what your liberal sources are indoctrinating you to believe (kinda what they are doing to our kids in school) . I must be seeing fake blacks and latino's at the rnc convention, you might watch and tell me if my eyes are bad.
As to the immigrants, take away their govt. issued debit cards, cell phones and housing , why they may just want to go back on their own. Immigration? We have a system called issuing green cards. Been around a long time and worked fairly well.
You cry wolf too often and people stop listening.

[woodchip]

Let me guess… Dan Bongino?

Some of it yes, others like CBS was asking ms Cheatles about lack of drone coverage. Maybe you try diversifying your news sources instead of listening to people telling what is "garbage".

[Vander]

Maybe you try diversifying your news sources instead of listening to people telling what is "garbage".

I actually haven't paid much attention to any of this. I know little to nothing about the hiring decisions made at the USSS, nor the process, planning, and assignment of protection details. I don't know who's responsible for doing what and when. So that's a lot that I don't know, and I don't feel a great need spend much time informing myself about it. But what I do know is that it's weird that you would use a nickname for someone involved.

I have no doubt that a former Secret Service employee could provide accurate information on many of those aspects. But Dan Bongino is not a good faith actor. He is your typical right wing media figure, and you don't get popular in that ecosystem by attempting to provide accurate information or being objective. You get popular by stoking the fire, by directing blame at predetermined targets. By giving them nicknames.

For my part, I don't consume much Dan Bongino content, but I call him bad faith for his work stoking Jan 6. He certainly wasn't the worst, but he consistently promoted as legitimate the idea that the election was in dispute, and that a Jan 6 challenge was worthy. I understand that you blithely disregard that as a serious event, but that was a shot across the bow of the American experiment in representative democracy.

[Tunnelcat]

Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. You may believe Trump and his crew of felons would handle the reigns of power like responsible adults. I don't. He's already proven he can't. For the sake of argument, say Trump stops all payments to all illegals and immigrants.What do you think would happen? My guess is this country would see a giant uptick in crime, THEN the mass deportations would begin. Trump would be stuck between a rock and a hard place. And no, there's no right wing source in the world who'd even post any whiff of this.

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2024/05/2 ... -disaster/

[Ferno]

I vote for internment camps.

Would you like to stay in one?

TC, you obviously know nothing about Trump voters other than what your liberal sources are indoctrinating you to believe (kinda what they are doing to our kids in school) . I must be seeing fake blacks and latino's at the rnc convention, you might watch and tell me if my eyes are bad.
As to the immigrants, take away their govt. issued debit cards, cell phones and housing , why they may just want to go back on their own. Immigration? We have a system called issuing green cards. Been around a long time and worked fairly well.
You cry wolf too often and people stop listening.

We know enough about them. Because they're like you.

Because they do this.


You all mock, demean and minimize veterans. Nothing but ugly people, doing ugly things, speaking ugly things.

[woodchip]

I vote for internment camps.

Would you like to stay in one?

TC, you obviously know nothing about Trump voters other than what your liberal sources are indoctrinating you to believe (kinda what they are doing to our kids in school) . I must be seeing fake blacks and latino's at the rnc convention, you might watch and tell me if my eyes are bad.
As to the immigrants, take away their govt. issued debit cards, cell phones and housing , why they may just want to go back on their own. Immigration? We have a system called issuing green cards. Been around a long time and worked fairly well.
You cry wolf too often and people stop listening.

We know enough about them. Because they're like you.

Because they do this.


You all mock, demean and minimize veterans. Nothing but ugly people, doing ugly things, speaking ugly things.

I don't know Ferno if you are a troll or just ★■◆●ing stupid beyond belief. I'll settle for ignorant. You don't suppose they were wearing bandages with purple hearts on them as a way of honoring wounded vets? I suppose the delegates at this RNC convention with bandages on their ear were mocking Trump too. And when Sam Brown, candidate for the senate, gave a speech he got much applause. He was wounded in Afghanistan and bears the the facial scars where he was burned. The Dems are the ones mocking Vets by housing illegals while Vets are homeless and living in the street.

[Vander]

You don't suppose they were wearing bandages with purple hearts on them as a way of honoring wounded vets?

This is how they mocked John Kerry's Purple Heart medals, suggesting he got medals for fake or superficial wounds. If you don't know this, you shouldn't be calling anyone ignorant.

[Ferno]

I vote for internment camps.

Would you like to stay in one?

TC, you obviously know nothing about Trump voters other than what your liberal sources are indoctrinating you to believe (kinda what they are doing to our kids in school) . I must be seeing fake blacks and latino's at the rnc convention, you might watch and tell me if my eyes are bad.
As to the immigrants, take away their govt. issued debit cards, cell phones and housing , why they may just want to go back on their own. Immigration? We have a system called issuing green cards. Been around a long time and worked fairly well.
You cry wolf too often and people stop listening.

We know enough about them. Because they're like you.

Because they do this.


You all mock, demean and minimize veterans. Nothing but ugly people, doing ugly things, speaking ugly things.

I don't know Ferno if you are a troll or just ★■◆●ing stupid beyond belief. I'll settle for ignorant. You don't suppose they were wearing bandages with purple hearts on them as a way of honoring wounded vets? I suppose the delegates at this RNC convention with bandages on their ear were mocking Trump too. And when Sam Brown, candidate for the senate, gave a speech he got much applause. He was wounded in Afghanistan and bears the the facial scars where he was burned. The Dems are the ones mocking Vets by housing illegals while Vets are homeless and living in the street.

Honoring wounded vets? Right after trump got shot at?




You fucksticks don't give a ★■◆● about veterans other than to use them as props for your election bull★■◆●.

[TigerRaptor]

One would think he would get tired of playing Dunk the Clown.

[Tunnelcat]

I'm guessing he got the bandage from the My Pillow guy.

Personally, to me it looks like someone hung a teabag on his ear. If Trump chose that design, it's the most idiotic idea for a bandage ever. A little square on a round ear. Pbffft! I'm surprised he didn't put a flag on it. I also bet that's not on his ear at night when he sleeps because it wouldn't stay on, which means it's for looks, not function. Vain orange prick.

[woodchip]

As I looked deeper into this, I see the ignorance is still strong here. The bandages at the 2004 rnc convention were mocking Kerry who was running for president, and not disrespecting vets Some were saying Kerry's wounds were superficial, but regardless he served honorably and his wounds were received in a combat zone. There are a lot of vets who disagreed with Kerry for throwing his medals away as a cheap political stunt. I would suggest stop using a picture from a democratic website to prove god knows what point.

[woodchip]

I'm guessing he got the bandage from the My Pillow guy.

Personally, to me it looks like someone hung a teabag on his ear. If Trump chose that design, it's the most idiotic idea for a bandage ever. A little square on a round ear. Pbffft! I'm surprised he didn't put a flag on it. I also bet that's not on his ear at night when he sleeps because it wouldn't stay on, which means it's for looks, not function. Vain orange prick.

I thought it was a bit overdone too. But then maybe he was trying to cover up the damage the .223 bullet did. As to being a vain prick, better than the narcissist, self aggrandizing prick residing in the WH now.

[Krom]

rofl calling biden the self aggrandizing narcissist prick

The conservatives just really love the "I know you are but what am I?" defense don't they?

[woodchip]

rofl calling biden the self aggrandizing narcissist prick

The conservatives just really love the "I know you are but what am I?" defense don't they?

Then why does he refuse to step down from the race?

[vision]

Then why does he refuse to step down from the race?

He might still drop out. He's not staying in for power and glory. Think of it more like he's the CEO of a company and the Democratic Party is the board (the high ranking members anyway, the public doesn't matter for either party, just rich donors do). There isn't enough consensus among Democrats on what to do. If the decide he's out, then he's out, period.

[Tunnelcat]

It's looking like that will happen. Too many are calling for him to step down as a candidate. But it doesn't matter. People will vote blue just to keep Herr Trumpkins out of office forever.

[Vander]

As I looked deeper into this, I see the ignorance is still strong here. The bandages at the 2004 rnc convention were mocking Kerry who was running for president, and not disrespecting vets Some were saying Kerry's wounds were superficial, but regardless he served honorably and his wounds were received in a combat zone.

It looks to me like you've now found a reasonably accurate historical description of the meaning behind the purple heart bandaids that reveals your "you don't suppose they were wearing bandages with purple hearts on them as a way of honoring wounded vets" to be offensively backwards. How is this at odds with what anyone but you has been saying? Explain the strong ignorance, please. I'm must be too ignorant.

I would suggest stop using a picture from a democratic website to prove god knows what point.

You are so perilously close to getting the point, but I think the cognitive dissonance is repelling you from it.

[Ferno]

As I looked deeper into this, I see the ignorance is still strong here. The bandages at the 2004 rnc convention were mocking Kerry who was running for president, and not disrespecting vets Some were saying Kerry's wounds were superficial, but regardless he served honorably and his wounds were received in a combat zone. There are a lot of vets who disagreed with Kerry for throwing his medals away as a cheap political stunt. I would suggest stop using a picture from a democratic website to prove god knows what point.

You know that old saying, "if you think everyone around you is the ★■◆●, it's probably you"? Yeah, just replace the word '★■◆●' with 'ignorance'.

rofl calling biden the self aggrandizing narcissist prick

The conservatives just really love the "I know you are but what am I?" defense don't they?

Well... every accusation is a confession.

[woodchip]

You don't suppose they were wearing bandages with purple hearts on them as a way of honoring wounded vets?

This is how they mocked John Kerry's Purple Heart medals, suggesting he got medals for fake or superficial wounds. If you don't know this, you shouldn't be calling anyone ignorant.

And how do you know they weren't mocking Kerry for tossing his medals?. More importantly I see you cleverly avoided how the Dems are treating our homeless vets compared to housing illegal border jumpers. Are you saying the liberal talking heads have really brain warped you and would rather talk about something that happened near 20 years ago instead of whats happening now?

[woodchip]

As I looked deeper into this, I see the ignorance is still strong here. The bandages at the 2004 rnc convention were mocking Kerry who was running for president, and not disrespecting vets Some were saying Kerry's wounds were superficial, but regardless he served honorably and his wounds were received in a combat zone.

It looks to me like you've now found a reasonably accurate historical description of the meaning behind the purple heart bandaids that reveals your "you don't suppose they were wearing bandages with purple hearts on them as a way of honoring wounded vets" to be offensively backwards. How is this at odds with what anyone but you has been saying? Explain the strong ignorance, please. I'm must be too ignorant.

I would suggest stop using a picture from a democratic website to prove god knows what point.

You are so perilously close to getting the point, but I think the cognitive dissonance is repelling you from it.

So what is the point all knowing great guru, I desperately await enlightenment. And where do you think I'm conflicted psycho doc.
As a vet (and no one else here is) I'm not conflicted about conservatives holding Kerry in low esteem. And a lot of vets don't agree with what Kerry did, especially using it as a stunt to get into politics. I'm certainly not conflicted as to understanding who supports the vets. Maybe you are conflicted when you are faced with being a fanboy of the party who really despises vets.

[Vander]

And how do you know they weren't mocking Kerry for tossing his medals?

Because they said so at the time? It's not like they were hiding it. This was a very public exhibition at the largest GOP event in front of national media that went on for a week. This was the time of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth rat ★■◆●.

More importantly I see you cleverly avoided how the Dems are treating our homeless vets compared to housing illegal border jumpers.

Is this what you're talking about?

So what is the point all knowing great guru, I desperately await enlightenment.

The point is that Republicans do spiteful, mean ★■◆●, and certainly aren't above gleefully mocking a veteran's service when it suits them. And when confronted with this simple truism, you have a chronic aversion to acknowledging it and grasp for any other possible explanation, however unlikely, to soothe your conscience.

Maybe you are conflicted when you are faced with being a fanboy of the party who really despises vets.

Every accusation is a confession.

[woodchip]

Is this what you're talking about?

No, learn to read.

The point is that Republicans do spiteful, mean ★■◆●, and certainly aren't above gleefully mocking a veteran's service when it suits them. And when confronted with this simple truism, you have a chronic aversion to acknowledging it and grasp for any other possible explanation, however unlikely, to soothe your conscience.

Dems are mean and spiteful too and you desperately want to believe otherwise

Maybe you are conflicted when you are faced with being a fanboy of the party who really despises vets.

Every accusation is a confession.
[/quote] This from a fired chief of staff who would say anything.

[Tunnelcat]

It was raining that day on top of that disparaging veteran comment too and poor little Trumpkins' didn't want to get his perfectly horrid hairdo wet either. An asswipe priss who made a YUGE deal out of getting his tiny little ear nicked by a passing bullet like it was a gutshot at the convention. I'm sure a lot of wounded warriors are laughing at that.

https://time.com/4808227/d-day-donald-t ... te-allies/

[Vander]

No, learn to read.

I have read:

As to the immigrants, take away their govt. issued debit cards, cell phones and housing , why they may just want to go back on their own.

The Dems are the ones mocking Vets by housing illegals while Vets are homeless and living in the street.

More importantly I see you cleverly avoided how the Dems are treating our homeless vets compared to housing illegal border jumpers.

Did I miss something that you said? I didn't see any specifics, so I'd say that link was a decent guess.

This from a fired chief of staff who would say anything.

I have no doubt he said these things to hurt Trump, but that doesn't mean it's not true. Saying things that make Trump look bad are not lies by default.

You've claimed Democrats despise veterans. I would say that it's usually functionally impossible for any successful politician in this country to actually despise veterans, Republican or Democrat. Have other priorities or areas of interest? Sure. But despise? That's absurd. It's why the purple heart bandaids were so memorable to me, like they were breaking some unwritten rule.

[Ferno]

Is this what you're talking about?

No, learn to read.

The point is that Republicans do spiteful, mean ★■◆●, and certainly aren't above gleefully mocking a veteran's service when it suits them. And when confronted with this simple truism, you have a chronic aversion to acknowledging it and grasp for any other possible explanation, however unlikely, to soothe your conscience.

Dems are mean and spiteful too and you desperately want to believe otherwise

Maybe you are conflicted when you are faced with being a fanboy of the party who really despises vets.

Every accusation is a confession.

This from a fired chief of staff who would say anything.

Is this really the best you can offer?

[woodchip]

No, learn to read.

I have read:

As to the immigrants, take away their govt. issued debit cards, cell phones and housing , why they may just want to go back on their own.

The Dems are the ones mocking Vets by housing illegals while Vets are homeless and living in the street.

More importantly I see you cleverly avoided how the Dems are treating our homeless vets compared to housing illegal border jumpers.

Did I miss something that you said? I didn't see any specifics, so I'd say that link was a decent guess.

Except I said nothing about kicking vets out, hence the "learn to read" comment. You're getting lazy Vander so you guess. And as of the HUD PIT count jan 2023, "The total number of Veterans who experienced homelessness was 35,574 – an increase of 7.4% over January 2022." Sound like the Dems are more concerned about the vets or illegal border jumpers? And what is incorrect about my other 2 quotes? Are illegal's not getting cell phone, debit cards or housing?

This from a fired chief of staff who would say anything.

I have no doubt he said these things to hurt Trump, but that doesn't mean it's not true. Saying things that make Trump look bad are not lies by default.

Doesn't mean it is true either. So saying things to make Biden look bad are not lies? You forget how people in politics lie and cover up if only to get a new job. Was the chief of staff looking to work for something within the democratic sphere? Who knows. Even Bongino is smart enough to say never trust a politician.

You've claimed Democrats despise veterans. I would say that it's usually functionally impossible for any successful politician in this country to actually despise veterans, Republican or Democrat. Have other priorities or areas of interest? Sure. But despise? That's absurd. It's why the purple heart bandaids were so memorable to me, like they were breaking some unwritten rule.

Hmmm, you must not of been around when they were spitting on us when we came back from Nam and calling us baby killers. That's what was memorable to me

[Vander]

Except I said nothing about kicking vets out, hence the "learn to read" comment. You're getting lazy Vander so you guess. And as of the HUD PIT count jan 2023, "The total number of Veterans who experienced homelessness was 35,574 – an increase of 7.4% over January 2022." Sound like the Dems are more concerned about the vets or illegal border jumpers? And what is incorrect about my other 2 quotes? Are illegal's not getting cell phone, debit cards or housing?

You don't want resources to be used to facilitate immigration, period, regardless of the level of support for veterans. So claiming they're somehow intrinsically related is ridiculous.

You keep saying "illegal border jumpers" even though "cell phones, debit cards, and housing" are provided to those trying to use the proper legal channels.

Hmmm, you must not of been around when they were spitting on us when we came back from Nam and calling us baby killers. That's what was memorable to me

By all means, share a memory.

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=were+v ... +on&ia=web
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=were+vietnam+ ... ers&ia=web

I was born in 1974, so you're correct, I wasn't around at the time. But I do remember John Rambo saying he was spat on and called a baby killer.

[Tunnelcat]

I was around woody and I DO remember. No one was spit on, except in the movies. But the middle finger was used often. Maybe if you understood most young American's aversion to one of the longest, bloodiest and most unnecessary wars back then, a war that they were being drafted to fight in, you'd figure it out. Or, maybe not.

https://www.history.com/news/vietnam-wa ... -treatment

[Ferno]

Woody is still trying to claim he was spat on when he came back from nam?

Guess we can add stolen valor to the list of his mount bull★■◆●.

[Tunnelcat]

Woody doesn't seem to remember that the Vietnam War was one of the first U.S. wars that Americans got to see the brutality of war on TV, including atrocities commited on Vietnamese civilians by our own troops. It was also an extremely unpopular and unnecessary war people had no stomach to go and fight in. The 1950's commie menace just wasn't a threat in most sane people's minds, especially young people who saw through the fake government BS that we could win a protracted proxy guerrilla war on the enemy's soil with China throwing everything into it because THEY didnt want a U.S. presence on their border. In fact, we were losing the fight and throwing our younger generation at it like trash.