The temperature at which the brain begins to die...

Top Gun · Post by **Top Gun** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 3:29 pm

Celsius 41.11

About freakin' time someone fought back

Herculosis · Post by **Herculosis** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 4:25 pm

I'm hoping we'll get to see this one too: Here

"Michael Moore Hates America" deconstructs the genre of documentary film to show viewers how filmmakers can manipulate interviews and statistics to communicate a desired message, and therefore, how deceptive that message often is. Movie-goers will discover what that means in their daily lives and begin to understand why it's so important to question everything they see and hear. Most importantly, viewers will see the American Dream emerge in front of them.

What makes me think that those around here that thought everyone should see Moore's hit piece, even though they admitted it wasn't 'totally' factual, would automatically discount this one?

Spidey · Post by **Spidey** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 9:23 pm

Hehâ?¦. Michael Moore is a big fat idiotâ?¦

And Al Franken is the anti-Christ!

Birdseye · Post by **Birdseye** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 11:21 pm

haha that was an even worse chop job than moore's film (after watching the trailer)

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 12:43 am

If he really hated america, he wouldn't drive a car, fly on a plane, use a computer, or use any other american items.

stating someone hates america because of a differing opinion is flawed logic

TheCops · Post by **TheCops** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 6:00 am

no ferno.
youre either with us or against us... isn't that what my fearless leader said?

Will Robinson · Post by **Will Robinson** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 7:23 am

Ferno wrote:If he really hated america, he wouldn't drive a car, fly on a plane,....

If that were true the world trade center wouldn't be a pile of wreckage today.

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 10:57 am

I'm not bitin. nice try though.

Will Robinson · Post by **Will Robinson** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 3:49 pm

I don't disagree with your point that people with opposing opinions don't *necessarily* hate america but people who hate america *do* fly on planes so your logic is no less flawed.

Ford Prefect · Post by **Ford Prefect** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 6:33 pm

I think Ferno refers to the "America love it or leave it" philosophy which discounts the possiblity that you can be a citizen and still believe that your countries administration is wrong and that "your" country needs to change direction.
All this harks back to John Stuart Mill's concept of the "Tyranny of the Majority".

Beowulf · Post by **Beowulf** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 9:56 pm

Bah just let it die already.

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Fri Oct 01, 2004 12:22 am

What if a whacked-out muslim used a helicopter to kill a bunch of french guys? Does that mean they hate France?

note: the first helicopter (albiet unsuccessful) was invented by Paul Cornu, a frenchman.

Ford, correct. It is not only a right, but a duty to question the government. it's part of a system of checks and balances that keeps them as honest as possible given the current circumstances.