Your choice for browsers

STRESSTEST · Post by **STRESSTEST** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 11:30 am

What browsers are you guys using now days?

If you do not use any of the above for your main browser please specify in your post. There is a cap on poll options WHICH IS TOTALLY GAY BTW so I couldn't include an "Other" option for you folks.

Sergeant Thorne · Post by **Sergeant Thorne** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 11:39 am

I use Internet Explorer. In my opinion it is superior, from a web designer's point of view. From a user's point of view, I've liked it better than Netscape for the past number of years, and other browsers always seem too bulky. You might say all I want is a nice window to the internet, not a custom browsing experience. ;P

KompresZor · Post by **KompresZor** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 11:54 am

I use Mozilla 1.7.2 I think it relaces IE/Outlook nicely

Mr. Perfect · Post by **Mr. Perfect** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 1:57 pm

A few months ago it would have been IE, but now it's Firefox. With default settings it's just as small as IE, but with the added bonus of tabbed browsing and the integrated Google bar. I'm sure there's plenty of other crap it's got, but I'm not making any jestures at my mouse, thank you.

I just lumped my Firefox vote in with Mozilla.

Mobius · Post by **Mobius** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 1:58 pm

Firefox. Why put in a netscape option? You should have checked W3CSchools first.

Won't vote, because Mozilla is a bloated monolithic steaming pile of dog poo.

DarkShadow · Post by **DarkShadow** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 2:04 pm

Firefox for almost everything.
IE for windows update and if I need something off a site that only works with it.

suicide eddie · Post by **suicide eddie** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 2:08 pm

firefox

Pugwash · Post by **Pugwash** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 2:40 pm

firefox

Top Wop · Post by **Top Wop** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 2:42 pm

Sergeant Thorne wrote:I use Internet Explorer. In my opinion it is superior, from a web designer's point of view. From a user's point of view, I've liked it better than Netscape for the past number of years, and other browsers always seem too bulky. You might say all I want is a nice window to the internet, not a custom browsing experience. ;P

You are a wuss.

Sergeant Thorne · Post by **Sergeant Thorne** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 2:45 pm

It doesn't bother me.

Top Gun · Post by **Top Gun** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 2:56 pm

That makes two wusses

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CDN_Merlin · Post by **CDN_Merlin** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 2:59 pm

Netscape. IE is BS and more infection prone to pop up sites than any other browser. And, Tab browsing rules.

Mobius · Post by **Mobius** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 3:36 pm

Sergeant Thorne wrote:I use Internet Explorer. In my opinion it is superior, from a web designer's point of view. From a user's point of view, I've liked it better than Netscape for the past number of years, and other browsers always seem too bulky. You might say all I want is a nice window to the internet, not a custom browsing experience. ;P

Transitional HTML DTD = broken box model on IE6.

Strict HTML DTD = W3C specified box model on IE6.

Please explain to me how this makes life easier for web design???? Seriously dude, you can't be serious??? Can you??

If you're doing design work for IE6 then you sux0r! Use a compliant browser like Moz for design, and then spend 4 minutes making it look pretty in IE. Rather than design for IE, and having it completely broken in every other browser. Then spending two weeks tearing hair out trying to make IE specific code work in other browsers...

GOOD LORD!

W3C stats should Moz at 19% now. Netscape = 1.4% and stable. IE6 falling away. YAY!

Defender · Post by **Defender** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 4:13 pm

Mobi: This is why people code for IE:

Stryker · Post by **Stryker** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 4:21 pm

Voted mozilla. I like how it intigrates everything from IRC chat to e-mail to web browsing (and a nice skin for the web browser, at that).

Testiculese · Post by **Testiculese** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 4:38 pm

I thought Mozilla was Firefox, I voted that since Firefox is the better choice.

Tyranny · Post by **Tyranny** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 4:39 pm

Firefox

The Mozilla browser and the Mozilla Firefox browsers are different Testi...

bash · Post by **bash** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 6:05 pm

Firefox, which I thought was a Mozilla variant so I voted Mozilla.

Testiculese · Post by **Testiculese** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 6:57 pm

Yea, that's what I meant, and I figured Stress meant Firefox.

I've not seen actual Mozilla. Probably as bad as Nutscrape?

STRESSTEST · Post by **STRESSTEST** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 8:02 pm

correctly assumed. Mozilla built it, so Firefox is the mozilla choice above.

Jeff250 · Post by **Jeff250** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 8:05 pm

All this statistic shows is that more people with too much time on their hands use Firefox.

DCrazy · Post by **DCrazy** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 9:13 pm

Yeah, Mozilla is Netscape with a less annoying color scheme (and an M instead of an N). Firefox + Thunderbird trounce all over Mozilla Suite.

MD-2389 · Post by **MD-2389** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 9:31 pm

For those that want to see the difference between Mozilla and Firefox (0.9.3):

Click me

(Firefox on the left, Mozilla on the right)

As you can see, the Firefox team still has a ways to go in memory management area compared to Mozilla Suite itself.

fliptw · Post by **fliptw** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 9:37 pm

is quick launch running?

MD-2389 · Post by **MD-2389** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 9:38 pm

Nope. If its not essential, its not running in startup.

And before anyone brings it up, only one window for each browser was open.

fliptw · Post by **fliptw** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 9:40 pm

I meant quick launch for mozilla.

BUBBALOU · Post by **BUBBALOU** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 9:47 pm

I use a Web Browser/Other, I choose none/all
until they make one that works on voice commands for hands free pr0n surfing , MILF is the word..oh maybe MILF.

Asrale · Post by **Asrale** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 10:25 pm

IE and Firefox

IE because its startup speed is INSTANT! And it's not that bad either, I don't know why people rag on it all the time.

And Firefox for its security. Don't really use tabbed browsing all that much, I have no clue why that's a "selling" point, because unless you have 56K, pages don't load slowly enough for you to read one Web page while another loads...

Top Gun · Post by **Top Gun** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 10:29 pm

Excuse my utter ignorance regarding this whole "web-compliant browser" issue, but since most people use Internet Explorer, and since I'm assuming it's been around longer than most, if not all, of the alternative browsers, then isn't it up to the other browser designers to make theirs compatible with all the pages that IE is? I mean, if IE can use features that other browsers can't, why aren't these other browsers able to be revised in order to meet the same compliancy standards? I know I'm probably over-simplifying the issue, but to me, it sounds like the elitist "alternative browser" crowd hemming and hawing about sites that don't bother to take their minority market share into account

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snoopy · Post by **snoopy** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 10:29 pm

I use Mozilla Webrhino right now.

Sapphire Wolf · Post by **Sapphire Wolf** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 10:30 pm

I use both Mozilla FireFox and Crazy Browser

MD-2389 · Post by **MD-2389** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 10:32 pm

Top Gun wrote:Excuse my utter ignorance regarding this whole "web-compliant browser" issue, but since most people use Internet Explorer, and since I'm assuming it's been around longer than most, if not all, of the alternative browsers, then isn't it up to the other browser designers to make theirs compatible with all the pages that IE is? I mean, if IE can use features that other browsers can't, why aren't these other browsers able to be revised in order to meet the same compliancy standards? I know I'm probably over-simplifying the issue, but to me, it sounds like the elitist "alternative browser" crowd hemming and hawing about sites that don't bother to take their minority market share into account .

The whole problem is that IE doesn't render code correctly, or "corrects" badly written code so that while it looks fine in IE, in any REAL browser it'll be b0rked.

fliptw wrote:I meant quick launch for mozilla.

As I said in my previous post, No. If its not essential, it doesn't load in startup. Period. I try to keep my startup time as fast as possible. I don't let anything run in my system tray unless I actually use it. ★■◆● like "quick launch" doesn't even get turned on.

Ned · Post by **Ned** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 10:34 pm

firefox

Top Gun · Post by **Top Gun** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 10:35 pm

All right, but why can't the other browsers implement a similar "correction" feature, or at least have it as an option that the user can turn on/off as he/she pleases?

MD-2389 · Post by **MD-2389** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 10:41 pm

Top Gun wrote:All right, but why can't the other browsers implement a similar "correction" feature, or at least have it as an option that the user can turn on/off as he/she pleases?

Because its a really REALLY stupid idea? Why encourage people to code poorly? Thats like lowering the standards even lower so more people can get a driver's license. Do you really want more stupid people on the road? Same concept.

Sergeant Thorne · Post by **Sergeant Thorne** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 6:24 am

I've actually only ever tried IE, Netscape, and Opera (only for a short time, at that). To explain my statment about IE: Internet Explorer supports a lot of newer CSS attributes that can be pretty handy: I can use CSS to effect an element's transparency, visibility, coordinate positioning, lighting (this is kinda cool, my brother made a page that could be dynamically colorized, client-side). I don't know what out of all this works in browsers like FireFox and Mozilla, because I've actually never tried them (something I intend to correct, today). It's possible that some of my difficulties have stemmed from poor coding, I guess, I'm always improving in that area. I'm no slob when it comes to HTML, but I am relatively new at it, in some ways. I've recently started writing XHTML 1.0 (1.1?) compliant code.

Sergeant Thorne · Post by **Sergeant Thorne** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 6:38 am

Using Firefox, here. So far, I like it! Only one fault, thus far: there's a certain animated smiley on one of my home web-pages that's currently going about a million miles an hour.

*edit - And another thing, why can't these other browsers support document.all?!
*edit - Firefox suggests: Use W3C standard document.getElementById() instead. I can live with that.

Tyranny · Post by **Tyranny** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 8:10 am

MD, what were those options you posted a while ago on how to speed up browsing in the mozilla/firefox browsers?

Or did the latest firefox get those settings corrected?

DarkShadow · Post by **DarkShadow** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 10:20 am

I belive this was it.
FIREFOX

1. Type "about:config" in the adress field.
2. Set the value of network.http.pipelining to "true".
3. Set the value of network.http.pipelining.maxrequests to "100".
4. Set the value of network.http.proxy.pipelining to "true"
5. Set the value of nglayout.initialpaint.delay to "0"

Tyranny · Post by **Tyranny** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:04 am

Yup, that was it thx

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