This needs to stop...

Tyranny · Post by **Tyranny** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 6:20 pm

Ok, this has a lot to do with the other thread I posted but it needs to be figured out one way or another. The last three days the DBB has been horrendously slow. Sometimes not even loading at all.

Its gotten to the point where I'm almost tempted to change home pages and not even bother reading the DBB anymore. That probably wont happen, its just that bad. Try to post replies to threads that are taking ridiculously long to load and then having to wait 5-10 minutes just to post that reply.

Then as if by miracle the DBB is lightning fast again several hours later only to be slowed down while I'm surfing it. Like I stated before, I know it isn't me because every other website loads like butter. Could it possibly be a matter of too much traffic on the site? I'm not sure. We've always had quite a few reading the DBB at any given time and never has it been this bad.

I have broadband, 4.5mb down and use Firefox 1.0, it shouldn't be doing this. Hope this can be identified and fixed eventually. I know you didn't see any problems before Jim, but obviously something isn't right based on how many other people are having similar problems.

STRESSTEST · Post by **STRESSTEST** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 6:49 pm

I'm with Tyranny on this. I't been the worst ever this last weekend

Tyranny · Post by **Tyranny** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 6:55 pm

I'm not sure. I haven't used IE for almost a year now for browsing.

I didn't have this problem with Mozilla and I didn't have this problem with the beta of Firefox 1.0 either so...

It sounds plausible that it might be a browser issue. I mean, if you visit the DBB 10 times a day and I only visit maybe 4 or 5 times, you'd think that it would be more likely that you'd have problems.

This current viewing session I've had has probably been the best I've had it in the last half week. Thats why this is so annoying though because sometimes its just fine and other times it just refuses to load the DBB at all. Then inbetween the pages load slowly or don't even display, they just won't load. Here lately the majority of the time the DBB is either dead slow or won't even load at all.

Skyalmian · Post by **Skyalmian** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:09 pm

back again,

no issues...

I'm with Tyranny and Stress. It happens at random times (obviously when you aren't around) and gets damn annoying fast.

Grendel · Post by **Grendel** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:18 pm

Skyalmian wrote:I'm with Tyranny and Stress. It happens at random times (obviously when you aren't around) and gets damn annoying fast.

Ditto. IE6, SP2..

Edit: just had it -- 1740 PT, 11/22/04

MD-2389 · Post by **MD-2389** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:21 pm

I've experienced this repeatedly in the last few weeks.

Mozilla 1.7.1, 56k

It usually happens in the late afternoon for me. Though it might be helpful when this happens, to do a traceroute to the server and see where its lagging for you.

For those that don't know what I'm talking about goto your command prompt/DOS prompt (worded differently, depending if your running Win9x or NT/2000/XP) and type "tracert www.descentbb.net" and copy and paste the results here in a quote or code tag. (Note: to copy and paste text from a DOS window, you have to right-click and select "Mark". Then just highlight the text like normal. Then right-click and select copy. Then paste the text into here.

That, or download a program like "Ping Plotter" or "Neotrace" and take a screenshot of the results and post it here.

That being said, it could very well be something as simple as heavy CPU usage causing it instead of lack of bandwith. If you can Jim, check for any logs indicating that.

Tyranny · Post by **Tyranny** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:47 pm

Took me a while to get back, but I tried with IE6 SP2 and the same thing is happening there as well. Initially was working fine, then I tried again after dinner and the DBB wouldn't even load. Checked Firefox again and wouldn't load there either.

So, I'm more inclined to believe its a server issue somewhere.

Grendel · Post by **Grendel** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:54 pm

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Tracing route to descentbb.net [64.71.171.45]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  2    10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  10.0.0.1
  3    40 ms    30 ms    41 ms  eugn-dsl-gw03.eugn.qwest.net [67.42.192.3]
  4    40 ms    30 ms    40 ms  67.42.192.93
  5    50 ms    30 ms    40 ms  egn-core-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.150.33]
  6    50 ms    30 ms    40 ms  egn-core-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.150.14]
  7    40 ms    50 ms    40 ms  stl-core-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.208.41]
  8    40 ms    50 ms    40 ms  tkw-core-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.5.82]
  9    80 ms    40 ms    50 ms  tkw-core-03.inet.qwest.net [205.171.190.6]
 10    80 ms    60 ms    60 ms  svl-core-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.205.110]
 11    60 ms    80 ms    70 ms  svl-core-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.14.117]
 12    60 ms    60 ms    60 ms  pax-brdr-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.214.38]
 13    70 ms    60 ms    71 ms  snfccapaix-qwest-pos.wcg.net [64.200.199.125]
 14    70 ms    60 ms    60 ms  sntcca1wcx1-pos1-0.wcg.net [64.200.149.9]
 15    60 ms    70 ms    60 ms  sntcca4lcx1-pos12-0.wcg.net [64.200.149.46]
 16    60 ms    80 ms    60 ms  sntcca4lce1-hurricane-gige.wcg.net [64.200.150.106]
 17    60 ms    60 ms    70 ms  pos2-3.gsr12416.pao.he.net [66.220.13.42]
 18  2324 ms     *     2323 ms  pos2-0.gsr12012.fmt.he.net [64.62.249.121]
 19    90 ms    70 ms    60 ms  64.71.171.45

Trace complete.

Repeatable, 2nd run:

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[..]
 17    70 ms    60 ms    70 ms  pos2-3.gsr12416.pao.he.net [66.220.13.42]
 18  2323 ms     *        *     pos2-0.gsr12012.fmt.he.net [64.62.249.121]
 19    80 ms    71 ms    60 ms  64.71.171.45

Trace complete.

Tyranny · Post by **Tyranny** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:55 pm

Tracert wrote:Tracing route to descentbb.net [64.71.171.45]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms 10.50.128.1
2 11 ms 9 ms 7 ms ip68-2-2-169.ph.ph.cox.net [68.2.2.169]
3 11 ms 11 ms 12 ms ip68-2-0-66.ph.ph.cox.net [68.2.0.66]
4 11 ms 23 ms 10 ms chnddsrc02-gew0304.rd.ph.cox.net [68.2.14.17]
5 15 ms 11 ms 12 ms chndbbrc01-pos0203.rd.ph.cox.net [68.1.0.160]
6 23 ms 26 ms 31 ms langbbrj01.r2.la.cox.net [68.1.0.172]
7 26 ms 31 ms 25 ms lax-ix.he.net [206.223.123.37]
8 36 ms 38 ms 37 ms pos3-2.gsr12416.pao.he.net [65.19.129.1]
9 2288 ms 2297 ms 2300 ms pos2-0.gsr12012.fmt.he.net [64.62.249.121]
10 57 ms 36 ms 40 ms 64.71.171.45

Trace complete.

Thats what I get...

Edit: Still the same results. It's always that 9th entry @ pos2-0.gsr12012.fmt.he.net [64.62.249.121] thats delayed or has ultra high pings.

Tyranny · Post by **Tyranny** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 8:06 pm

but if it isn't returning anything wouldn't that be enough to slow down the DBB or stop it from loading until the next time around?

Not sure how that works.

Tyranny · Post by **Tyranny** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 9:27 pm

thx Jim, we appreciate it.

Gooberman · Post by **Gooberman** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 9:30 pm

I've noticed it as well, IE6. Sometimes this place is just horrible.

Sarge · Post by **Sarge** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 10:59 pm

I think it's that Al Qaeda guy...

Gooberman · Post by **Gooberman** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 5:46 am

It was complete molasses around 8:30 mst last night.

Tyranny · Post by **Tyranny** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:19 am

So far, so good.

AceCombat · Post by **AceCombat** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:41 pm

i was having the same issue on those days, both IE6 and Mozilla were slow as frozen dog doo

MD-2389 · Post by **MD-2389** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 1:47 pm

Xciter wrote:Should be fixed now /usr disk space was full. They cleaned it out and rebooted the server.

So that explains why it took so long to edit a post in the Cafe last night...

JMEaT · Post by **JMEaT** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 1:33 pm

My Internet connection seems to be more stable than usual today!

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Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\JMEaT>tracert www.descentbb.net

Tracing route to descentbb.net [64.71.171.45]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     *       27 ms     *     68-232-86-1.chvlva.adelphia.net [68.232.86.1]
  2    13 ms    19 ms    23 ms  67.20.47.89
  3    17 ms    25 ms    25 ms  24.51.101.89
  4    27 ms    15 ms    25 ms  unk-426d0eb9.adelphiacom.net [66.109.14.185]
  5    27 ms    27 ms    31 ms  so-03-00-00.c1.dca91.adelphiacom.net [66.109.0.
09]
  6    24 ms    26 ms    23 ms  unk-426d019a.adelphiacom.net [66.109.1.154]
  7    21 ms    35 ms    20 ms  ash-ix.he.net [206.223.115.37]
  8    99 ms    91 ms   103 ms  pos3-3.gsr12416.pao.he.net [216.218.254.205]
  9     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 10     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 11     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 12     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 14     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 15     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 16     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 17     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 18     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 19     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 20     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 21     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 22     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 23     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 24     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 25     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 26     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 27     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 28     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 29     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 30     *        *        *     Request timed out.

Trace complete.

DarkShadow · Post by **DarkShadow** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:15 pm

Much better for me than it was before.

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  1    15 ms    15 ms    16 ms  10.6.1.1
  2    15 ms    15 ms    16 ms  at-1-2-0-1711.CORE-RTR2.PITT2.verizon-gni.net [130.81.8.185]
  3    19 ms    18 ms    19 ms  at-2-3-0-0.CORE-RTR1.PITT2.verizon-gni.net [130.81.18.250]
  4    22 ms    24 ms    22 ms  130.81.18.0
  5    23 ms    23 ms    23 ms  so-6-0-0-0.PEER-RTR1.ASH.verizon-gni.net [130.81.10.90]
  6    21 ms    23 ms    23 ms  130.81.15.18
  7    88 ms    86 ms    87 ms  pos3-3.gsr12416.pao.he.net [216.218.254.205]
  8    90 ms    90 ms    88 ms  pos2-0.gsr12012.fmt.he.net [64.62.249.121]
  9    93 ms    91 ms    90 ms  64.71.171.45

Trace complete.

Tyranny · Post by **Tyranny** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 5:59 pm

Much much better. Thx Jim.

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Tracing route to descentbb.net [64.71.171.45]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    25 ms     8 ms     9 ms  10.50.128.1
  2    10 ms     9 ms    11 ms  ip68-2-2-169.ph.ph.cox.net [68.2.2.169]
  3    10 ms    11 ms    13 ms  ip68-2-0-66.ph.ph.cox.net [68.2.0.66]
  4    11 ms    13 ms    11 ms  chnddsrc02-gew0304.rd.ph.cox.net [68.2.14.17]
  5     9 ms    11 ms    10 ms  chndbbrc01-pos0203.rd.ph.cox.net [68.1.0.160]
  6    23 ms    31 ms    24 ms  langbbrj01.r2.la.cox.net [68.1.0.172]
  7    26 ms    23 ms    23 ms  lax-ix.he.net [206.223.123.37]
  8    38 ms    36 ms    37 ms  pos3-2.gsr12416.pao.he.net [65.19.129.1]
  9    35 ms    37 ms    37 ms  pos2-0.gsr12012.fmt.he.net [64.62.249.121]
 10    36 ms    32 ms    36 ms  64.71.171.45

Trace complete.

Grendel · Post by **Grendel** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 6:54 pm

Yes, no slowdown anymore (at least here) -- thx!

Top Gun · Post by **Top Gun** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 11:10 pm

Many thanks!

STRESSTEST · Post by **STRESSTEST** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 5:54 pm

yea, just get you a copy of MyPHP (free)

fliptw · Post by **fliptw** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 1:11 am

or rather Apache + PHP + Mysql PHPBB, as PHPbb isn't built using MyPHP. just install the above four, and then import the DB dump from your host.

Personally, I'd just go for a debian install.

Do_Checkor · Post by **Do_Checkor** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 5:38 am

No problems here...

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C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Do_Checkor>tracert descentbb.net

Routenverfolgung zu descentbb.net [64.71.171.45]  Ã¼ber maximal 30 Abschnitte:

  1    28 ms    30 ms    30 ms  ipx.ol.ewe-ip-backbone.de [212.6.119.168]
  2    31 ms    30 ms    30 ms  212.6.108.4
  3    46 ms    46 ms    46 ms  bbrt.lon-0-so-0-0-1.ewe-ip-backbone.de [80.228.109.50]
  4    47 ms    47 ms    51 ms  gsr12012.lon.he.net [195.66.224.21]
  5   124 ms   124 ms   115 ms  pos8-0.br1.nyc.he.net [216.218.200.101]
  6   187 ms   187 ms   187 ms  pos7-0.gsr12012.sjc.he.net [216.218.254.153]
  7   188 ms   186 ms   187 ms  pos1-2.gsr12416.fmt.he.net [64.71.128.182]
  8   187 ms   187 ms   187 ms  pos10-0.gsr12012.fmt.he.net [66.220.20.138]
  9   171 ms   171 ms   171 ms  64.71.171.45

Ablaufverfolgung beendet.

DCrazy · Post by **DCrazy** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:09 am

Yeah, don't run it under Windows if you don't have to, Apache's Windows memory manager isn't nearly as efficient as its Linux one.

Gooberman · Post by **Gooberman** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 6:51 pm

soooo sloooowwww right now.

DarkShadow · Post by **DarkShadow** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 7:13 pm

Gooberman wrote:soooo sloooowwww right now.

Major understatement!!!!

Deadmeat · Post by **Deadmeat** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 11:57 pm

Yes, yesterday morning it wouldn't connect at all for an hour or more. When it did it was very slow. This afternoon I tried to connect. After about 5 minutes it finally did and then was slow again. Took about 2 minutes to navigate to a page. Tonight it's fine.

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 12:05 am

i was getting php errors saying it couldn't connect to the database.

Arbitar · Post by **Arbitar** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:10 am

Maybe Mysql is dying. It happened to me like ... 3 times on my server. This looks like all the symptoms. slowing, php errors saying counts connect to database ... Backup backup teh database!

STRESSTEST · Post by **STRESSTEST** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:09 pm

Man, 1 day of speed, and then right back to gridlock... teh ghey

MD-2389 · Post by **MD-2389** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:27 pm

Ferno wrote:i was getting php errors saying it couldn't connect to the database.

That could mean anything from heavy CPU usage, lack of HDD space, to lack of available bandwith. Personally, I think its the space issue coming back to haunt us again.

It took me TEN MINUTES just to load this thread where it would usually take MAYBE five seconds on my 56k. Thats how bad its getting.

Bet51987 · Post by **Bet51987** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 3:45 pm

Add me to the list of people being frustrated about geting in. Out of all the places I go, this is the slowest. Yesterday, I had to give up for awhile.
Bettina

Boo · Post by **Boo** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 4:56 pm

Little slower than i'd like here but generally ok so far...

Gooberman · Post by **Gooberman** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 6:00 pm

There have been a ton of slowdowns today as well.

Top Gun · Post by **Top Gun** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 6:19 pm

Yeah, the thing all but timed out on me earlier while I was trying to make a post. Seems to be better now, though.

AceCombat · Post by **AceCombat** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 8:40 pm

all day today i kept getting "Connection was Refused" alerts in Mozilla.

it is working better................for now.......hopefully

Top Wop · Post by **Top Wop** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 12:48 pm

I made a post today, and I waited a whole 5 minutes before it went through. I also opened a new browser and tried to access the DBB. At the same time following the 5 minutes my post went through and I was able to browse the dbb normally.

Nightmare USA · Post by **Nightmare USA** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 2:42 pm

working like greased lightening right now for me..