FanATIcs & nVidiots pwned :)

Grendel · Post by **Grendel** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 7:47 pm

*click*

The article is about SLI -- interesting read.

roid · Post by **roid** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:22 am

what's pwned about it?

Tricord · Post by **Tricord** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:37 am

Am I right in thinking that you only run one card at a time, depending which game better suits which card? Smells like bull to me!

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:29 pm

well what do you expect from THG the sellout?

"It was to be expected: an SLI computer with GeForce 6800 Ultra or GT beats everything for performance"

thanks for another baised review.

Mobius · Post by **Mobius** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:58 pm

Other sites are saying pretty much the same thing, so that hardly constitutes "bias" - except that they are "biased" towards the fastest solution.

SLI only works on games which allow it - and there aren't that many of them. If it was a generic solution it might have some value, but seeing as how it's limited to just a handful of games, it's not worthy of the name "SLI" in my view.

I think the ATI offer will be totally generic, and THAT might be worth checking out.

roid · Post by **roid** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:30 am

mmm generic SLI would be good. i still have a single voodoo2 downstairs somewhere

Capm · Post by **Capm** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 9:26 am

how do you figure thg is a sellout?

BUBBALOU · Post by **BUBBALOU** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 9:51 am

because he is an ATI owner... why else would he be wanking, or he has smoked 1 too many peace-pipes for the day.

BIAS hahah, the motherboard is a INTEL design for XEON'S think about why that is ...ROFL

I love you Ferno!

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 1:34 am

"because he is an ATI owner... why else would he be wanking, or he has smoked 1 too many peace-pipes for the day."

BubbaFool to the rescue!

Just because I own an ATI card doesn't make me some kind of ATI loving nut. That's like me saying you're an intel fanboy just because you owned a celeron.

"BIAS hahah, the motherboard is a INTEL design for XEON'S think about why that is ...ROFL"

sorry dude that has nothing to do with what I said. can you remember if there was a review for intel or nvidia that said their hardware sucked? I sure don't. Also if there wasn't any bias it would be written something like "It was to be expected: an SLI computer with both a Radeon x800 paired with a GeForce 6800 Ultra in SLI mode beats everything for performance"

Avder · Post by **Avder** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 3:10 am

How the f*** do you get a 6800U and an X800 to even talk to eachother?

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 3:12 am

that's what i'm wonderin. I didn't see an SLI bridge board or anything..

roid · Post by **roid** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 5:06 am

could it be that with PCIexpress, SLI bridging cables are unneeded?

KompresZor · Post by **KompresZor** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 8:21 am

Maybe you guys should read the "Article", it will help in your basic understanding of the subject matter

Plus I don't get what pwned about it either

Mr. Perfect · Post by **Mr. Perfect** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 2:39 pm

Yeah, read the article. The X800 and the 6800U are not working toegther in SLI mode. They where simply seeing if you could have both cards in a machine with dual PCIe graphics slots, and switch between them depending on what game you wanted to play. You use one card or the other, depending on whethere a game's developer sould out to ATI or Nvidia.

BUBBALOU · Post by **BUBBALOU** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 7:57 pm

It is a chipset which enables SLI mode via the PCI Express BUS. The SLI connector is an enhancement to enable the videocards to communicate directly and share memory with each other faster than going through the PCI-E bus

I know you guys think the Connector is what makes it SLI...poof! begone with that misconception.

Use of the SLI connector does require identical cards, but via the PCI-E Bus they do not like Alienwares Video Array(this still is in the first stages so right now do not count on it)

roid · Post by **roid** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 1:39 am

i remember way back reading with upmost interest in a magazine where the guys succeeded in getting one of hte first 3DFX cards (voodoo1?) working in a machine with another of the first 3d cards. they did it, then i turned the page, it was a fine page

Jeff250 · Post by **Jeff250** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 5:14 am

There's two links to two articles in Grendel's post. The first is the nVidia card and ATI card working concurrently (although not in SLI). The second is the heavily biased THG review of nVidia SLI, since Equal Opportunity should have afforded ATI at least half the benchmark wins.

KompresZor · Post by **KompresZor** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:10 am

lol.... another one that didn't read the article, there are two links to one article at THG. The only bias I see here is yours

Skimming is not reading

KompresZor · Post by **KompresZor** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:17 am

Bubba looks like SLI may be comming a little sooner then you thought
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2285

Both of these developments mean that you will be seeing Gigabyte boards based on nForce4 in the next few weeks. You will likely find that you will actually have a choice in SLI motherboards before Christmas - at least between Asus and Gigabyte, and possibly MSI as well.

BUBBALOU · Post by **BUBBALOU** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 10:18 am

KompresZor wrote:Bubba looks like SLI may be comming a little sooner then you thought
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2285

Why dont you read next time and do not skim.....

In the future refers to Alienwares Video Array .. not NForce4.. that's old news,

so go back under your rock

KompresZor · Post by **KompresZor** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 11:38 am

LOL@Bubba This whole thread is about the Nforce4 and SLI where have you been, Skimming again?

My first clue should of been when you said this...

BIAS hahah, the motherboard is a INTEL design for XEON'S think about why that is ...ROFL

When the two motherboards in the article are the Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe and the MSI K8N both 939 pin AMD boards.

Go back under my rock? rofl.. is that what a college education gets you now days. If your going to try and insult me Bubba at least put some effort into it

BUBBALOU · Post by **BUBBALOU** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 12:57 pm

Where have you been in production Dual PCI-E for SLI motherboards, not refrence builds

I do not need a article on Tom's or Amandtech to tell me about technology that I have been watching for over a year and a half

Jeff250 · Post by **Jeff250** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 2:45 pm

Why all of this anti-skim angst? Skimming is an effective information utility. I say kudos to anyone who doesn't read every word of every page of every article.

Mr. Perfect · Post by **Mr. Perfect** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 8:37 pm

Yeah, I'm with Jeff. Anti-skim. Read every word.

Jeff250 · Post by **Jeff250** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 9:46 pm

See how skimming has brought us together?

Vertigo · Post by **Vertigo** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 12:41 pm

whahahahaha

pwned

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 1:36 am

was there any mention that the nvidia and ati card were working together in SLI mode?

no.

was this ever a debate on whether an intel motherboard had PCI-E slots?

no.

did anyone say that it was the connector and nothing else that made SLI happen?

no.

Wake me when an nvidia and ati card are working concurrently in SLI mode. and it can be PROVEN.

Aggressor Prime · Post by **Aggressor Prime** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 5:07 pm

You are going to be sleeping for a very long time then.
nVidia and ATI in SLI is like Intel CPUs in an AMD socket.

BUBBALOU · Post by **BUBBALOU** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 10:17 pm

Ferno wrote:Wake me when an nvidia and ati card are working concurrently.

then you be happy when Alienware's VideoArray becomes reality, this sitiuation is their claim

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 1:27 am

From Alienware's FAQ:

Will I be able to use an ATI card in the same system as an Nvidia card?

No. You must use identical cards from the same manufacturer.

You just got served Bubba.

BUBBALOU · Post by **BUBBALOU** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 7:04 am

"No. You must use identical cards from the same manufacturer. However, Alienwareâ??s Video Array is designed to be independent of graphics chipsets and uses off-the-shelf graphics cards."
When you quote Ferno : include the whole statement not just a partial snipet (love you

)
( says YES and NO, or we dont know, or they won't say until you buy their proprietary X2 motherboard/system)

The original press release states the design and SOFTWARE of the Video Array was around NON IDENTICAL CARDS...PCI-E/AGP/PCI. This is typical statement from A Specialized system builder...IWO you contact them, they sell you the additional card...

Personally I'm waiting till at least March/April when all the Real Gear is out and the dust has settled, not just the top @ top $ this is almost like the days when people were cranky that their video card could not work like a Voodoo2

Ferno, have some wheaties.....

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:44 am

"The original press release states the design and SOFTWARE of the Video Array was around NON IDENTICAL CARDS...PCI-E/AGP/PCI."

so you're still using two cards from one manufacturer.

Warlock · Post by **Warlock** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 1:33 pm

i smell bs