HumVees are ripoffs of Lamborghinis

roid · Post by **roid** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 8:30 pm

http://www.lambocars.com/framed/lm/lm.htm

i remember this car from the old game "stunts", and then when the humvee came out i always assumed it was just a rebadged lambo. but lambo actually only made a few hundred of these things, ever.

why does the humvee look almost identical? it this like when digimon etc all came out to rival pokemon, because they were too dumb to come up with their own design?

it seems that ppl think the humvee is as american as having sex with apple pies. i beg to differ.

Avder · Post by **Avder** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 8:42 pm

Well i cant talk much about the original humvee, but the h2 is just as american as having sex with an apple pie, and just as intelligent.

It costs over $53,000 USD, and gets an average of 7 miles to the gallon.

Just plain stupid.

Vander · Post by **Vander** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 9:55 pm

IMO, they look nothing alike.

Stryker · Post by **Stryker** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 10:01 pm

Dessert drive, yummy!

It has something of the same architecture--a military vehicle designer probably looked at it and said "hey, that looks durable..."

Ford Prefect · Post by **Ford Prefect** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 12:47 pm

A wise man said "form follows function".

Pun · Post by **Pun** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 1:50 pm

I always thought that Mies Van der Rohe said that, but then someone said it was Frank Lloyd Wright. Come to find out it was Louis Sullivan. Heh.

CORD · Post by **CORD** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 1:45 am

Doesn't even look remotely like the HumVee. And the H2 is a knock off being built on the GMC Suburban running gear.

roid · Post by **roid** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:35 am

it doesn't look like a humvee?! you are all joking cabbages floating in the breeze. it looks likea humvee.

why does it not, explain damnit. *points at the car which this thread is about that is which it is... about. that*

@#123231321!#@
by joves it looks like NOTHInG ELSE

BUBBALOU · Post by **BUBBALOU** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 7:15 am

well of couse they look alike..... boxes look like other boxes

I could say dude they both look like a landrover...oh wait that's another box...damn box designs

Who cares lamborgini is owned by ford, jaguar, and volvo.

Hummer was not designed to be a street machine, we could say lambo copied the jeep design.. basically that is what it is

Plebeian · Post by **Plebeian** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 8:59 am

BUBBALOU wrote:Who cares lamborgini is owned by ford

Um, actually, it's owned by Volkswagen.

roid · Post by **roid** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 9:20 am

the lambo's design is from the late 70s, they had it first.

Avder · Post by **Avder** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 10:00 am

Plebeian wrote:
BUBBALOU wrote:Who cares lamborgini is owned by ford
Um, actually, it's owned by Volkswagen.

Thank God...I almost had a heart attack there....but then I realized it was bubba posting it, and hes right about as frequently as the Cubs win the World Series.

Plebeian · Post by **Plebeian** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 10:56 am

Avder wrote:Thank God...I almost had a heart attack there....

Well, to some, VW ownership might not be any better than Ford ownership.

Or how about Fiat's ownership of Ferrari? (He's right about Ford's ownership of Jaguar and Volvo, though.)

Ford Prefect · Post by **Ford Prefect** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 8:19 pm

When you guys dis Ford the light dims a bit in my heart.

fliptw · Post by **fliptw** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 9:23 pm

roid wrote:the lambo's design is from the late 70s, they had it first.

Three words: foot wide tires.

Except the LM wasn't designed to go into battle.

It was designed to run like a demon on sand dunes so Rich Saudi's could make their camels jealous.

The Humvee, what the Hummer was based on, dates from the late 70's too.

half-assed research goes a bit further than plain speculation.

BUBBALOU · Post by **BUBBALOU** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 9:46 pm

Oops my bad, meant to type LandRover

BMW owns:
-BMW
-Mini
-Rolls Royce

Daimler/Chrysler owns:
-AMC (brand discontinued -- Chrysler bought AMC primarily for the Jeep brand which was owned by AMC)
-Chrysler
-Dodge
-Eagle (brand discontinued)
-Hyundai (Daimler/Chrysler only owns 10% --13 May 04 changes!)
-Jeep
-Maybach
-Mercedes-Benz
-Mitsubishi (Daimler/Chrysler owns 37%)
-Plymouth (brand discontinued)
-Smart

Fiat owns:
-Alfa Romeo
-Ferrari
-Fiat
-Lancia
-Maserati

Ford owns:
-Aston Martin
-Ford
-Jaguar
-Land Rover (bought from BMW)
-Lincoln
-Mazda (Ford owns 33% of Mazda)
-Mercury
-Volvo cars

Fuji Heavy Industries owns:
-Subaru

General Motors owns:
-Buick
-Cadillac
-Chevrolet
-Daewoo (GM owns 44%)
-Fiat (GM owns ~20%)
-Fuji Heavy Industries (GM owns ~20%)
-GMC
-Holden
-Hummer
-Isuzu (GM only owns a percentage)
-Oldsmobile (brand discontinued)
-Opel
-Pontiac
-Saab
-Saturn
-Subaru (GM owns 20%)
-Suzuki (GM only owns a small percentage)
-Vauxhall

Honda owns:
-Acura
-Honda

Hyundai owns:
-Hyundai
-Kia

Nissan owns:
-Infiniti
-Nissan
-Renault (Nissan owns 15%)

PSA Peugeot Citroen owns:
-Citroen
-Peugeot

Porsche is an independent company (they do work very closely with VW, however)

Renault owns:
-Nissan (Renault owns 44%)

Toyota owns:
-Lexus
-Scion
-Toyota

Volkswagen owns:
-Audi
-Bentley
-Bugatti
-Lamborghini
-SEAT
-Skoda
-Volkswagen

Since automotive world is constantly changing
Last update: 23 November 2004

roid · Post by **roid** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 10:28 pm

fliptw wrote:
roid wrote:the lambo's design is from the late 70s, they had it first.
The Humvee, what the Hummer was based on, dates from the late 70's too.

wtf, the exact same time the lambo was made. too close to call

Tyranny · Post by **Tyranny** » Tue Dec 14, 2004 1:29 am

oh, so Toyota is responsible for the "Scion" line?!? Damn things look like shoeboxes on wheels. I guess that would be ghetto since thats what they're going for apparently. Ugly ugly ugly.

Vindicator · Post by **Vindicator** » Tue Dec 14, 2004 1:45 am

roid wrote:
fliptw wrote:
roid wrote:the lambo's design is from the late 70s, they had it first.
The Humvee, what the Hummer was based on, dates from the late 70's too.
wtf, the exact same time the lambo was made. too close to call

The Toyota Land Cruisers influenced both of em (first introduced in 1953). They were bigger and more powerful than Jeeps.

Plebeian · Post by **Plebeian** » Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:50 am

Tyranny wrote:oh, so Toyota is responsible for the "Scion" line?!? Damn things look like shoeboxes on wheels. I guess that would be ghetto since thats what they're going for apparently. Ugly ugly ugly.

You didn't know that? Scion is supposed to be Toyota's "teen" line. You know, "hip", "cool", whatever the young people are saying these days. Though I see at least as many 40-somethings driving them as 18-25s.

All the vehicles are based off the Toyota Echo, but at least IMO, I'd take any of the Scions (including the funky xB) over an Echo. But then again, since I'd never take an Echo, that doesn't say much.

And Bubba, Ford only owns 1/3 of Mazda? I could've sworn it was a complete absorption, but I'm not too clear on the details, just that Ford has a controlling interest these days. Is the other 2/3 "independent", do you know?

BUBBALOU · Post by **BUBBALOU** » Wed Dec 15, 2004 7:11 am

Ford originally purchased/owned 25% back in 1987-89

Up to now I have not found the trail, other than a few partnerships on expansions with Mazda in which Ford increases their % in Mazda. Ford is currently owning 33.4% of Mazda and 50% in Mazda JV's

Seems Ford uses Mazda as a stepping stone to other asian ventures while maintaining a 50% stake in the venture providing startup capital. Ford has also built factories in China which Mazda is utilizing for production facilities for it's M3's. and for Chang'an Motor Corp/Chang'an Ford soon to include Volvo and Landrover and Jaguar

When it comes to mazda products in the us 95% of the product is domestic parts, compared to 77% a few years back. Mazda does not import drivetrain or engines for it's cars produced in the US anymore

the MX5 was the only thing that kept Mazda from being absorbed

Personally I think the Auto Industry is in poor shape in the US Market 25% markup that pays for healthcare for the UAW, people lease instead of purchasing (that's called renting folks) Leasing should be for business only and require a commercial plate like it used to

Repo Man · Post by **Repo Man** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 2:47 pm

The US military considered the Lamborghini LM along with the Hummer back in the 1980's. The Lambo broke too easily so it was disqualified. The last I heard, the original test LM is still rusting away somewhere in the desert. I can't recall which military base it was though.

Asrale · Post by **Asrale** » Mon Dec 20, 2004 12:55 am