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woodchip wrote:

callmeslick wrote:and yet the temps still keep rising, albeit at a reduced rate. Once again, Woody, you either prove human causation or at least provide serious underpinnings for such a theory.

Temperature rise has flatlined no matter how much you think otherwise. And saying I have proved something by a simple statement shows why I think warmers like you are brain dead.

This was already debunked twice in this very thread. Reading, it makes you learn things!

Top Gun wrote: This was already debunked twice in this very thread. Reading, it makes you learn things!

It could be possible that this is the cause: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borderline ... y_disorder

Top Gun wrote:

woodchip wrote:

callmeslick wrote:and yet the temps still keep rising, albeit at a reduced rate. Once again, Woody, you either prove human causation or at least provide serious underpinnings for such a theory.

Temperature rise has flatlined no matter how much you think otherwise. And saying I have proved something by a simple statement shows why I think warmers like you are brain dead.

This was already debunked twice in this very thread. Reading, it makes you learn things!

And I showed you the GISS data which you seem to ignore, You warmers always seem to find something wrong with the model. One day it is discovered that heating may be stored in the deep ocean and then you come up with incomplete data as a excuse. You're like little kids who get mad when they are proven wrong and start making up reasons why that is so.

woodchip wrote:And I showed you the GISS data which you seem to ignore...

It's actually you who are ignoring the data in those graphs. The first one shows a much more narrow "pause" than the 15 years now touted by deniers, and even shows slow but still noticeable warming. The two obvious questions that should arise from that data are 1) why aren't we seeing any significant dips in temperature like the previous decades and 2) how insane would this same graph look with a 10 year or 20 year mean regression? So much for any identifiable pause. Remember, we are talking geological time here, not dog years.

The second chart you supplied doesn't show any regression lines, but even eyeballing the graph you can see it is distinctly sloping upward over the 20 year period. I'm not sure what point you were trying to prove with it, because you seemed to prove everything but a global pause.

In addition, these charts are from NASA's analysis of that same data and according to the people who compiled and generated it:

The ★■◆●ing Experts wrote:All of these yield consistent estimates of the approximate magnitude of global warming, which now stands at about twice the magnitude that we reported in 1981. Further affirmation of the reality of the warming is its spatial distribution, which has largest values at locations remote from any local human influence, with a global pattern consistent with that expected for response to global climate forcings (larger in the Northern Hemisphere than the Southern Hemisphere, larger at high latitudes than low latitudes, larger over land than over ocean).

Debunked with your own evidence. Ball is in your court. What else you got, tough guy?

On that second chart, am I the only one who sees a waveform that cycles about once every 4 years? I wonder what drives that...

Here:

Listen, let us ponder about the possibilities of solving the problem of global warming. Homeless beggar in the United States has a better chance change his life and to ride a Ferrari than the United States as a state has a chance to change the progression of global warming. United States is a capitalist country that will never reduce the consumption of the population, even if tomorrow the global sea level will rise or fall by 1 meter. If the cause of global warming are natural processes, the United States in any case not be able to change it.

Krom wrote:On that second chart, am I the only one who sees a waveform that cycles about once every 4 years? I wonder what drives that...

Oh damn, that is interesting! I did a quick search and no, you are not the only one who sees that. I found an abstract that lead me to a search which led me to this paper on Deep Atlantic Jets 4.5 Year Cycle. Also, there is a really nice info-graphic on this page (19.6 MB!). The findings are purely speculative at this point, but there is a definite circulation pattern that produces measurable changes in salinity and oxygen, and possibly surface heat — though this cycle appears to be highly variable between 2-5 years.

Out of curiosity I would like to see this data paired with weather patterns that originate from those latitudes. Maybe I'll find it later because I'm going to watch a movie now.

Neat stuff!

If nature wants to drown America, nature will drown you. You can not do anything. And it seems, it already happened earlier
Map of Atlantis is too similar to the US map

Now see...that's funny.

and not sexist, either!

To think eat a hamburger or a sandwich, or you have to be very hungry, or a truck driver, who can not find other food. I do not understand, I do not know to what extent it is necessary not to respect themselves to eat fast food every day.

Every day is a very bad idea, but the occasional Big Mac isn't going to kill you.