M$ Sidewinder 3D Pro on USB

zapp · Post by **zapp** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:38 pm

I would be interested in one of those too-And can I put up some info on my 3d pro page? I get a few requests for help every few months (still.. I'm amazed) and this would be a good alternative!

Grendel · Post by **Grendel** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 3:32 pm

Sure, feel free to add info to your page -- I remember seeing it a few years ago, great site !

After this is done, I'm planning to put together a DIY guide -- would you be interested in adding it to your site ?

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zapp · Post by **zapp** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 10:13 pm

After this is done, I'm planning to put together a DIY guide -- would you be interested in adding it to your site ?

That would be a great addition, put it together and I'll host it.

Genghis · Post by **Genghis** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:28 pm

Arrrgh, Hostile ordered one? One of mine was meant for him. Could you knock me down to 3?

BTW, if you were depending on my bigger order and end up short on cash, I'll go ahead and take what I originally ordered. Otherwise, I'd rather let someone else have the ones I don't need anymore.

Grendel · Post by **Grendel** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:18 pm

Ok. Thx for the offer to keep the order up, right now it looks good tho. Now, if that board would get along .. (hint

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Diedel · Post by **Diedel** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:22 am

I want one - no, make that two - too, please.

Klasher · Post by **Klasher** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 1:45 pm

I would like to get two of those also

Grendel · Post by **Grendel** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 6:27 pm

k -- Klasher, only one of the two units you want is guaranteed.

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Grendel · Post by **Grendel** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 6:53 pm

[Teaser]

For the curious, this is a full set of parts:

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[*] Images recycled. Most can be found here.

Xamindar · Post by **Xamindar** » Sat Feb 04, 2006 2:42 pm

ok, im late to this thread but add me to the list! I want one.

KoolBear · Post by **KoolBear** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 11:01 am

I'd like at least 1 more, two if available.

Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:13 pm

awesome =)

KoolBear · Post by **KoolBear** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:33 pm

Update...

Board at 4th pass to Grendel for review, we added a ground plane today to minimize EMI issues.

A 3D representation of the board, less capictors...

The current 4th pass layout with ground plane visible...

The current 4th pass layout without ground plane visible

If all goes well tomorrow we should be able to send these out for re-quote.

KB

Grendel · Post by **Grendel** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:05 am

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KoolBear · Post by **KoolBear** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 1:22 pm

A FINAL ....

Here's a 3D representation of the board ...

And a top view of the actual board layout as released ...

So the current status is this as of 11am CST 2/9/06 the board is currently at the board shop awaiting quote, they said about two weeks to process the boards Once a check is in their hands.

KB

Fusion · Post by **Fusion** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:59 pm

Gren,

How do we get the payment to you for the converter(s) ordered? The 3d image of the circiut board is really cool, I expecially like the little GL touch there.

Fus

KoolBear · Post by **KoolBear** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:48 pm

The GL Touch was about the hardest thing to do

Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:07 pm

No doubt. I think you botched it too, because it looks like a GX. ;)

KoolBear · Post by **KoolBear** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:17 pm

Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:01 pm

But the GX is cooler. =D

Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:01 pm

But the Frogurt is also cursed.

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:12 am

Enough.

KoolBear · Post by **KoolBear** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:04 pm

UPDATE - Boards ordered today ....

Ok, I just got back from the board shop, the order has been paid for!

Assuming all goes well in approximately 2 weeks I will pick up the boards, They will need to be mailed to Grendel for kitting/assembly.

SO somewhere around Feb 24th we should have boards in hand!

pATCheS · Post by **pATCheS** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 3:04 pm

What's the 556 being used for that you couldn't do in software?

KoolBear · Post by **KoolBear** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 3:11 pm

pATCHes,

Grendel is out of pocket until sometime Tuesday, don't be expecting a reply till then.

Grendel · Post by **Grendel** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:17 pm

pATCheS wrote:What's the 556 being used for that you couldn't do in software?

Emulating the X1 & Y2 axis of a gameport (monostable timers). The 3DP can detect the discharge of the RC component that starts the timing operation and uses that as a command (transfer data in digital mode, switch to digital in analog mode). The discharge could probably be emulated by pulling the line low, but switching to digital is actually a rather complex sequence of timed commands involving the discharge time of the timers so I just left the 555s in. Does that answer the question ?

KoolBear · Post by **KoolBear** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:36 pm

Boards are scheduled for completion in Houston NEXT Friday 2.24.06.

Then shipped to Grendel for kitting and or assembly.

Diezman · Post by **Diezman** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 9:27 pm

Sorry i'm late to the party.. but how can I pay for one of these and be added to the list? Paypal?

Grendel · Post by **Grendel** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 12:03 am

No problem to get on the list

More details are further down.

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Weyrman · Post by **Weyrman** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 5:52 pm

Grendel,

Please drop me off the list for a unit. I was organizing it for one of the guys here and I went to check with him (yet again) that he still wanted it and he finally realised he would be paying US dollars for it and didn't like what the exchange would end up as.

Grendel · Post by **Grendel** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:33 am

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KoolBear · Post by **KoolBear** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 4:20 pm

Just got off the phone with the board manufacturer everything is progressing fine.

We will possibly see board tomorrow, but Monday looks more realistic from my perspective.

Grendel, I would be carefull we ordered 3 or 4 panels that doesn't mean we will get 100% yield

Grendel · Post by **Grendel** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 4:25 pm

I hope it's not less than 67% ? Wasn't it 20/panel ?

KoolBear · Post by **KoolBear** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 4:34 pm

yes I think it was 20 per panel, the order was for 3 panels so ...

40 should be easily attainable

Grendel · Post by **Grendel** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 4:41 pm

*Whew* ..

OTOH, having a couple spare parts wouldn't be that bad..

KoolBear · Post by **KoolBear** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:17 pm

Boards are HERE!

Top of PCB

Bottom of PCB

Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:13 pm

OMG that's awesome!

Avder · Post by **Avder** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:17 pm

Oooooh shiny.

KoolBear · Post by **KoolBear** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:00 pm

As of today Tueday Feb 28th the boards are enroute to Grendel!.

I should have mine operational tonight, I ended up breaking one of the wee capicitors

KB

Grendel · Post by **Grendel** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 3:11 pm

If you broke C2 or C3 it's not a big deal, the board should work just fine w/o them (they are for keeping noise out of the IC's Vpp). C4 & C5 are for the oscillator, C6-C9 are the sinks for the 556 timers -- all six need to be there.

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