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Re: Last stand of the Christians

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:42 pm
by Tunnelcat
The bigger problem is that Muslim Jihadists believe God sanctions their terror and killing of infidel unbelievers.

Re: Last stand of the Christians

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:46 pm
by vision
Sergeant Thorne wrote:You answer mine--do you believe that God will save them?
God does not likely exist, sorry to inform you, so no hope for divine intervention! These Christians can save themselves by getting away from crazy people with guns. No God needed! (Ever, for anything!)

Re: Last stand of the Christians

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:02 pm
by Nightshade
tunnelcat wrote:The bigger problem is that Muslim Jihadists believe God sanctions their terror and killing of infidel unbelievers.
TC nailed it.

I guess their 'god' is stronger than Vision's courage.

Re: Last stand of the Christians

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 1:26 am
by vision
ThunderBunny wrote:[I guess their 'god' is stronger than Vision's courage.
But still no match for my wit since I can outsmart them, easily.

Re: Last stand of the Christians

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:43 am
by Sergeant Thorne
Sergeant Thorne wrote:
vision wrote:Answer the ******* question Thorne. Is your God capable of saving your Christian brothers or not?
We're not lowering this to your intellectual level. You answer mine--do you believe that God will save them?
Vision wrote:... No ...
Then aren't you just the little ★■◆● for blaming this group for being targeted by their aggressors, and mocking them by saying He will when you don't believe it. As I said, it says a lot about your character. As does your opinion that they should conform or cow-tow to save their skins. I say ★■◆● people who push other people around like that. If they've spent their lives building this place, it would be a travesty to have to leave it for fear of death. The problem is the ★■◆●ing aggressor, and Vision is a worthless coward taking shots at the victims because he has an axe to grind against their faith.

Sounds to me like Vision would be one of those who gave ground to Hitler proceeding WWII. Just flee until there is no place left to flee!

Re: Last stand of the Christians

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:31 am
by CUDA
vision wrote: God does not likely exist,
Leaving the door open to hedge your bets huh.

FYI That statement makes you agnostic, NOT athiest. Its kind of hard to argue a point properly when you yourself dont know what you believe.

Re: Last stand of the Christians

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:57 am
by vision
Sergeant Thorne wrote:If they've spent their lives building this place, it would be a travesty to have to leave it for fear of death.
Why fear death if they are going to Heaven? Sounds like you might not understand what it means to truly have faith.
CUDA wrote:FYI That statement makes you agnostic, NOT athiest. Its kind of hard to argue a point properly when you yourself dont know what you believe.
I know exactly what I believe. I know that there is no way to prove or disprove the existence of god, just like you can't prove the existence of unicorns or fairies or leprechauns. Skeptics know about doubt and it's important to doubt yourself, your senses, and your knowledge since all are incomplete. Also, there are several definitions of agnostic, some of which are indistinguishable from atheism in a practical sense. So yeah, you don't know what you are talking about. Go learn more.

Re: Last stand of the Christians

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:11 pm
by Sergeant Thorne
You talk around in circles, Vision, and I have no respect for that. If someone were going to come and kill you and your family because of what you believe (no personal quarrel, no wrong done on your part), how would you expect me to feel about that? How would any of you expect others to feel about that? Maybe it's foreign thinking to you, but I don't write it off as being your problem. The truth is that if there is no personal quarrel then it is everyone's problem, whether they realize it, or it ever comes back on them or not. In a civilized society, violent sons of bitches need to be put down, period. Don't take that as some kind of justification for our country invading some other country, or some bull★■◆● like that, but it's an important principle for a civilized society. Killing people without provocation is about as big an injustice as there is.

Re: Last stand of the Christians

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:45 pm
by sigma
I do not understand the subject of dispute. Nobody can ever say in advance how to behave any person in an emergency situation. Hefty guys can piss in their pants when they will see driving on them the tank in reality. Most religious fanatic can betray and run from the battlefield. And at the same time, pimply intellectual glasses can perform miracles of courage, fighting with the enemy, defending his homeland, their friends, its principles, etc. Actually, people have many other values ​​in which they believe. Moreover, if intelligent people believe in scientific knowledge, the more primitive people believe in God. Atheists tend to defend them right from the point of view of science and common sense, while religious people tend to impose their faith in God. If atheists always respect the faith in God other people, that religious people are always happy and enthusiastic start to re-atheists.

Re: Last stand of the Christians

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:03 pm
by Tunnelcat
Religious Democide. Not a prevalent in human history as I would have thought. Quest for power has been the biggest reason for mass murder and only a small percentage of those instances involved religion.

http://www.godandscience.org/apologetic ... ities.html

Re: Last stand of the Christians

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:22 pm
by CUDA
vision wrote:Also, there are several definitions of agnostic, some of which are indistinguishable from atheism in a practical sense. So yeah, you don't know what you are talking about. Go learn more.
so what you're saying is you have a whole segment of people that Don't have a faith that really have no clue what they believe.
a·the·ist
/ˈāTHēˌist/
noun

noun: atheist; plural noun: atheists
a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.
ag·nos·tic
/agˈnästik/
noun

noun: agnostic; plural noun: agnostics
1. a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God.

Maybe it's you that should go learn.
God does not likely exist,
that says you are an agnostic. it's not My fault that you don't know what the definition of the word is

Re: Last stand of the Christians

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:29 pm
by vision
Sergeant Thorne wrote:...violent sons of bitches need to be put down, period.
I agree. Let's start with Christians who deny their children medical care because of their faith. Torturing and leaving children to die is pretty heinous, wouldn't you agree?
CUDA wrote:... that says you are an agnostic. it's not My fault that you don't know what the definition of the word is
Time to read those definitions again, moron. They aren't mutually exclusive. Want me to draw a Venn diagram for you?

Re: Last stand of the Christians

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:47 am
by CUDA
The dictionary and those definitions are used to educate the uneducated.

trying to "rebrand" yourself wont change what you are. Sorry if that offends you :roll:

so go ahead and continue with the name calling, if thats what makes you feel better.

Re: Last stand of the Christians

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 8:13 am
by Sergeant Thorne
vision wrote:
Sergeant Thorne wrote:...violent sons of bitches need to be put down, period.
I agree. Let's start by changing the subject entirely and grinding on this axe here...
Are you over-medicated?

Re: Last stand of the Christians

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:22 am
by Jeff250
I think we're done here.