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further NO ONE ON THOSE VIDEOS IS TALKING ABOUT BODY PARTS. Developmental heart,lung and other tissues are NOT fully formed organs, but specialized tissues which biological researchers have utilized and are still utilizing to make HUGE advances in medicine. Further NO ONE ever suggested compensation for the abortion providers, it was the legalities around providing for the donors. Finally, NO ONE in those videos is identified by political party. The original assertion is, as suspected, a lie. Moreover, the videos you produced are heavily doctored. The original of the first one, unedited, is available online, but that would screw up the narrative.
Finally, as Foil asks, what does this have to do with Donald Trump's candidacy? Besides an obvious cheap diversion when the conversation veered away from the hoped for direction.......

The cheap diversion was saying the GOP was filled with hate.

if the shoe fits..........face it, the GOP has campaigned on fear, hate and obstructionism for the past 7 years. Before that time, they spent 20 years cultivating the fear and hate part, going back to Reagan bringing the Southern bigots into the GOP fold(you know, the same folks who were previously in the Dem party, but you missed the switchover), and vilifying 'Liberals' and 'Intellectual Elites'. Now, you have a candidate stoking the fears, in this case mainly of 'immigrants', but, to some extent, anyone with functional grey matter. And, he's moving up in the polls. Not the overall negatives in recent polls: Over 61% of ALL Americans(not just Republicans) say they would NEVER consider voting for Trump. That number dropped from 70% a couple months back, SOLELY due to Republicans changing their minds. Those numbers add up to the reality of a massive landslide killing off the GOP, if the coattails extend to Congressional voting. Further more, a cursory glance at our local letters to the Editor and such seems to indicate that the whole GOP is being lumped in with the Trump crazies. If you, Woody, don't see looming electoral disaster, you might wish to look at similar events in electoral history........

The tea party has risen again, in force this time, much to the chagrin of the Republican Party and much to the glee of the Dems. We might just get a democratic socialist president out of this whole mess. Even if Trump is forced out of the Republican Party, I'm betting he'll end up as a third party spoiler.

why would Trump have to go Third Party with his current support and attention? The more time passes, it seems obvious that his strategy is to dominate the news cycle daily. In so doing, you hear very little out of ANY other GOP candidate. They are making ZERO headway, and getting no airtime. Moreover, there is no focus on criticizing or contrasting with Hillary(or any other Dem). Hell, Woody has put up a far more cogent attack upon Hillary than one hears covered in any press(including Fox) since the Donald showed up. Wonder if she is quietly backing his campaign?

Trump even trumped Kasich on the same day he announced he's running and Trump did it by giving everyone in the audience Lindsey Graham's phone number. Trump has taken all the air out of every other candidate's message. I think the last poll showed him up by 25% over his rivals. Washington politics has gotten so bad, a bloviating, egotistical, loudmouthed blowhard may just win the Republican nomination. Sheesh! By the way, the only other types of egotistical blowhards who like to have their name and picture enshrined on the tops of buildings or pasted all over on giant wall posters are usually dictators. Kind of tells me what type of president he'll be.

Blowhard or someone who is actually resonating with a vast cloud of Americans who are tired of hearing pc speak and and witchdoctor promises? In Trump people are seeing someone who is very successful and might...just might, accomplish far more than any of the presidential hopefuls on either side of the Maginot line

If Trump somehow manages to weasel his way into a nomination, I'm predicting a total Electoral College sweep by the Democratic candidate. It won't matter who he or she is.

Top Gun wrote:If Trump somehow manages to weasel his way into a nomination, I'm predicting a total Electoral College sweep by the Democratic candidate. It won't matter who he or she is.

Weren't the same comments made about Reagan?

woodchip wrote:

Top Gun wrote:If Trump somehow manages to weasel his way into a nomination, I'm predicting a total Electoral College sweep by the Democratic candidate. It won't matter who he or she is.

Weren't the same comments made about Reagan?

not in 1980 nor even 1976, and I was in New Hampshire(attended one of his speeches) for the 1976 campaign. By then, he was viewed as a serious candidate, or certainly no shoo in to go down 50-0.......

woodchip wrote:Blowhard or someone who is actually resonating with a vast cloud of Americans who are tired of hearing pc speak and and witchdoctor promises? In Trump people are seeing someone who is very successful and might...just might, accomplish far more than any of the presidential hopefuls on either side of the Maginot line

Vast cloud of Americans. Suuuuure. Keep on thinking that. Trump is not even someone I'd like running my finances. He's a flim flam man. All smoke and mirrors. Come to think of it, when was the last time he drove a car? Umm, never maybe? Hillary got in hot water over the same issue and was called "out of touch". So I'm real sure Trump is connected with how the "average American" lives their paltry peon lives. Oh, and once he's pres and when he builds his very expensive wall just to keep out those Mexican rapists, like he promised, he'll finish the job of bankrupting the government, kind of like he's done with a few of his own business dealings.

don't worry, TC, he can't win more than 50 electoral votes, tops. Even in Red states, he is pulling 55 percent strong unfavorables. Hillary could beat him handily, Sanders would likely clean the floor with him, and Webb would sweep EVERY state.

and, the vast middle of the American electorate just laughs, and laughs.

Good point slick. Dubya was a draft dodger. Trump was a draft dodger. Now those are 2 public figures, {eh hem}, rich slimballs, I can call "yellow" without getting this post removed.

as I said, up here in Delaware, where we have a long, bipartisan history of electing the most sensible, honest candidate(virtually never a major corruption scandal in my lifetime), the GOP brand has become a joke. About a decade ago, we had a Republican Congressman, and Governor.

You two remind me of people going into a haunted house and telling each other there is nothing to be worried about as ghosts aren't real.

who is that crazy looking guy in the cap, anyways?

woodchip wrote:You two remind me of people going into a haunted house and telling each other there is nothing to be worried about as ghosts aren't real.

Ghosts AREN'T real, last I heard.

Now that Trump has managed to piss off Fox News (your news source of choice), most women (including Megyn Kelly with his typical snide trash talk he likes to either blame on others for starting or that he was just "misinterpreted") and the entire Republican Party (he was dis-invited to the next Republican shindig, not that it matters as it was a Koch kiss butt event anyway), do you still like him now? Wanna bet he's going to run as an independent because the Republicans are going to throw him out on his ass? If that happens, hello to either Hillary or Sanders, your worst nightmares.

http://time.com/3989656/donald-trump-re ... gathering/

Always a possibility Sanders could run as a socialist if Hillary gets the nod. I wouldn't even begin to guess about running mates.

Or as a phony independent.

Spidey wrote:Always a possibility Sanders could run as a socialist if Hillary gets the nod. I wouldn't even begin to guess about running mates.

Or as a phony independent.

I'd be shocked if he did. He is pragmatic enough to know the futility of an independant Presidential run, and the cost involved in merely getting on the ballot.

Good God, I must be on another planet. Trump is actually talking sense for once, unlike his lockstep knee jerk Republican opponents.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/d ... od-hannity

Donald Trump wrote:"Let's say there is two Planned Parenthoods in a way. You have it as an abortion clinic. Now that's actually a fairly small part of what they do, but it's a brutal part and I'm totally against it and I wouldn't do that," Trump told Hannity. "They also however service women."

"We have to help women," he continued. "We have to look at the positives, also, for Planned Parenthood."