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Re: Trump, liberal democrat...

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 3:14 pm
by woodchip
tunnelcat wrote:
Spidey wrote:Yea, we can start with Bernie Sanders.
The fact a black man president didn't make their country great just for them again? That ship has long since sailed.
Yeah and he didn't make it so great for black folks. And how much do you think Bernie will help the young who already have a debt for college? Pay their loans off? At least Trump will focus on building business so the young can get jobs to pay off their debt easier and faster.

Re: Trump, liberal democrat...

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 3:45 pm
by vision
tunnelcat wrote:Unlike Trump, Sanders is attracting young people...
Trump is attracting young people, but mostly the horrible "burn it to the ground" types. It's the kids who think the country isn't worth saving, so why not Trump? It's funny to them. These kids think the world is a hopeless joke so we might as well elect the biggest clown.
woodchip wrote:And how much do you think Bernie will help the young who already have a debt for college? Pay their loans off?
Sure, why not? We paid to bail out the banks when they gambled, why not our own citizens when they did their best to better themselves and the country? Relieving student loan debt would jack the economy into overdrive and is a way better investment than propping up unscrupulous banking practices.

Re: Trump, liberal democrat...

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 4:00 pm
by Spidey
tunnelcat wrote:The fact a black man president didn't make their country great just for them again? That ship has long since sailed.
From where I sit, Trump supporters seem to be mad at Republicans not Obama, but don't let that stop you from playing that tired old race card.

Re: Trump, liberal democrat...

Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 4:08 pm
by Tunnelcat
woodchip wrote:
tunnelcat wrote:
Spidey wrote:Yea, we can start with Bernie Sanders.
The fact a black man president didn't make their country great just for them again? That ship has long since sailed.
Yeah and he didn't make it so great for black folks. And how much do you think Bernie will help the young who already have a debt for college? Pay their loans off? At least Trump will focus on building business so the young can get jobs to pay off their debt easier and faster.
That old conservative saw again. That ship has never ever floated in the first place. It's a delusional ideal. Conservatives have been telling people for years that if we give more and more to business in the form of cutting regulations and cutting their taxes, that business will reward them with lots of good, living wage jobs. Hasn't happened since Reagan and it's not going to happen now in our new global arbitrage economy.
vision wrote:Trump is attracting young people, but mostly the horrible "burn it to the ground" types. It's the kids who think the country isn't worth saving, so why not Trump? It's funny to them. These kids think the world is a hopeless joke so we might as well elect the biggest clown.
vision, if the Millennials support both Trump and Sanders, it's because of a weird incoherent mix of reasons. But at Sander's rallies, there are far more young people attending than at Trump rallies.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... ys/374427/
Spidey wrote:From where I sit, Trump supporters seem to be mad at Republicans not Obama, but don't let that stop you from playing that tired old race card.
Maybe they're just mad that the Republicans because they couldn't get rid of that hated black Obama back in 2012? I still think that the race issue is still sticking in the craw of these angry white guys. :wink: