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I think if we all grew up knowing that life was all just survival of the fittest and that any "rules" we are taught are only 'rules' because a stronger man said so then your notion of the masses seeking peaceful co-existance would be nothing but a dream.

At the same time I believe the common threads in all major religions ie; thou shall not kill...thou shall not steal, etc. etc. are the result of the masses attempting to achieve that very goal.

The ones who use religion to do evil are in the minority but they get all the press. The ones who tame themselves in search of spirituality are the silent majority.

ok, thats tight.

so for zurucks bi-polar question... i must choose the ten comandments?

hehe.
back to square theorizing.

Hmm, I guess the point Will is unconsciously making is the separation of religion and theology. You don't have to believe in God or a god or multiple gods to be religious.

TheCops wrote:so for zurucks bi-polar question... i must choose the ten comandments?

No, I wouldn't want one without the other. I choose to not seperate a 'Higher Morality' from 'Mans Law'. We benefit from the ying and yang of the two together.

damn, i ask one question, i don't even include any of my mindless banter, and i still get heat for it. it was just a simple choice of which one you would prefer if you had to choose.

Aww come on man. It was a good question but your reputation for drive-by-flame-bait posts temporarily caused some suspicion. My bad but all's good now

Happy Bill of Rights Day. In response to the topic, I'd take the Bill of Rights, but in today's America, it's practically worthless, as all the amendments in it have been eviscerated. I know the guy is blatantly blaming Bush, but face it -- even if it was Gore who won in 2000 and Kerry in 2004, the same assault would have happened, but probably on a worse scale, especially for the Second Amendment.

Life with or without the Bill of Rights are just two different games... both are playable, you just might not like one or the other as much.

Without the Ten Commandments, or at least some set of laws enforcing them, you'd just have anarchy.

Sirius wrote:Without the Ten Commandments, or at least some set of laws enforcing them, you'd just have anarchy.

I don't know about that. If the buddhists were in charge they would give us neither, anarchy or law based on christianity. Of course their way wouldn't hold back a few angry houswives let alone an invading army, but that's another thread altogether

My two cents worth...

If everyone would follow the ten commandments, then we wouldn't need a bill of rights.

djordan wrote:My two cents worth...

If everyone would follow the ten commandments, then we wouldn't need a bill of rights.

So which commandment would you stretch to cover freedom of speech?

sheepdog wrote:

djordan wrote:My two cents worth...

If everyone would follow the ten commandments, then we wouldn't need a bill of rights.

So which commandment would you stretch to cover freedom of speech?

Or equal justice under the law?

Or (of course) right to bear arms?

More like the fact that if everyone followed the ten commandments, there would be no need to bear arms. People in government, being forced to follow the rules of not coveting, etc, would have no possible way of oppressing the people. Heck, there wouldn't even really need to BE a government; if people would just behave themselves.

Stryker wrote:More like the fact that if everyone followed the ten commandments, there would be no need to bear arms. People in government, being forced to follow the rules of not coveting, etc, would have no possible way of oppressing the people. Heck, there wouldn't even really need to BE a government; if people would just behave themselves.

But that would never happen...now would it?

Only after the second coming of the Messiah and then you wouldn't need the TC or the BOR cuz the Gordian Knot would just be sliced clean through what with all the good being raised and something permanently terrible happening to the godless and the sinful that would just take them out of the picture.

I recommend Under the Banner of Heaven for anyone interested in an entertaining albeit scary trip through millenial thinking.