[]V[]essenjah wrote:Gonna have to show me that again.... I didn't see any proof.... Where was it again? You said that there was very little sex. My brother who probably watches it as much or more than you do. He tapes every episode and watches them every chance he can get. He complained about the sex.
Sex:
me earlier in this thread wrote:There were a whopping two brief sex scenes in the four hour mini-series lasting a hand-ful of minutes combined. The first season had a whopping three that I can recall off the top of my head, which were even shorter than in the mini-series.
Lets say for the sake of arguement that each episode comprised of 45 minutes to make room for commercial time (which is the average length of each SG-1 episode sans commercials). Thats five sex scenes averaging out to around 2 - 3 minutes each. The complete first season had roughly 26 episodes if memory serves. Thats a total of 1170 minutes of content. Now lets go for an upper limit and say the sex scenes lasted for a whopping 5 minutes (which is well over average for the Scifi channel, and would be about right if you took all of the innuendos together, if you consider a few innuendo's as "sex content"). Five scenes lasting five minutes each. I don't think I need to walk you through the calculations on that one.
Starbuck:
This section, as well as the next one, will contain minor spoilers. Highlight at your own risk. (I really tried to refrain from posting spoilers earlier to prove my point.)
The new Starbuck is vastly different from the old one. She isn't afraid to knock the crap out of anyone that crosses her. Furthermore, it isn't even her name, its just her callsign. (like "Maverick" in "Top Gun") Just like Apollo is Lee Adama's callsign in both the original and remake. You also got to see part of her past *spoiler* [spoiler]which revealed that she's partly responsible for the death of Commander Adama's other son[/spoiler]. She isn't afraid to cross the line a little to get the job done. Like I also mentioned earlier in this thread, it doesn't matter who you are, act like an ass and she'll knock the piss out of you. And oh yeah, she didn't have to play sherriff!
Uniqueness:
It isn't just "lets flying around visiting backwater planets, mingling with the locals in the vain hope of a few handouts" anymore. There are very detailed sub-plots here. You have the cylon infiltration plot. They can look, smell, feel, and act just like us now. Its gotten to the point where theres a witch hunt every now and then for the next cylon infiltrator. And there isn't just one of each, but many copies. Another sub-plot is Sharon (Boomer). She doesn't know who she really is (which was revealed at the end of the mini-series). *spoiler*[spoiler]She's even blacked out and done things without knowing it.[/spoiler] Then theres the entire Caprica sub-plot involving Helo trying to stay alive long enough to find a way off. Then you have the President and her illness, and who will eventually take her place. (this involves Richard Hatch, who played the original Apollo btw) I could go on and on, but you get the point.
Really, Enterprise didn't show anything explicite if I remember correctly either. It was just mostly poinltess. But it is still there and annoying. Thus my point.
Eh, you must've missed the rubdown sequence in the pilot episode. Granted, you didn't really see anything. I didn't watch much beyond the first season, though I did catch part of another episode which involved that asian chick (the translator woman, who's name escapes me atm) falling out of a rather tight vent, which ripped her top off. You didn't see anything, but it was heavily implied. I will admit that they are a distraction from everything else, and can get annoying if overdone (rave scene in the second matrix movie comes to mind...). However it wasn't an all the time thing here either.
Dude, your judgeing a game by it's genre?
Hey, I tried a few of the games in the RPG genre. Birth of the Federation REALLY springs to mind. I *really* tried to get into that one, but it got to the point where I just couldn't get into it. I even tried to get into Homeworld, which is a semi-decent game in its own right. The only game of that genre that I actually considered buying was Diablo, and I would have at the time if I had the money. And fyi, I actually did do a little digging on KOTOR, and from what I saw it looked like yet another Battlefront (which damn near every SW fan I've met hates with a passion). Galaxies looked interesting, but I refuse to buy pay to play games.
Also, watching the entire first series just to find out that you don't like it is like buying every single Depeche Mode album to discover that maybe you don't care for their style of music and that you don't like a single song.
Actually, it'd be more like buying one album to listen to all of the tracks....if you really wanted to nitpick. Buying every single album would be akin to buying every season set, which I will admit outright that this would be a tad bit on the extreme side just to find out if you liked it. However, since your brother taped all of the episodes, the only effort on your part would be watching all of them. I would really suggest you watch them in order though simply because its really hard to get into the show if you just watched a couple, stopped, and then came back. You'd be going "wtf happened to that character?!" half the time.
Actually it could be a lot different. Such as, they could not try to rape the cash cow and actually not try to replace the old series with something that barely even resembles it.
1. neo-BSG is hardly raping the original series. Different, yes.
2. BSG is hardly a cash cow. It sold enough DVD boxsets to make neo-BSG worth making, yes. However, it (the original) never really lasted beyond its first season. (and I refuse to acknowlege the existance of Galactica 1980) Granted, that might have turned out to be different if Lucas had left the show alone and not sued Fox over the use of certain weapon effects.
Hmmmm maybe they could be original and give the characters different names and the show a slightly different title. Wow, amazing!!
But then it wouldn't be Galactica now would it?
Like I said, I liked IRobot for an action movie and Neo-BSG should be looked at in the same respect but the fact that they changed all of the characters and the entire story while trying to claim the same names and titles should still be looked down on.
If they did it wrong, I would agree with you. A perfect example of getting it wrong would be the remake of "War of the Worlds". All they did was piss all over the original and went on their own slant. Ron Moore didn't do this with neo-BSG. He fully acknowleged the previous series and has made several references to it just for the hell of it.
Episodes I saw all had huge space battles.
Lets just say that quite a few of the episodes had more internal battles than external. If you really want to know more, read the synopses on the neo-BSG website on scifi.com.
I'm not saying it is the end of the world, nor acting as if it is. I'm simply saying that I don't classify it as the all time best Sci Fi series ever made, hands down. I consider it good but it's not like they started from scratched.
Which is fair enough.
I'm just givin' you a hard time man.
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Wanted to see if you'd get your feathers all ruffled over it.
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Just like I did you. Notice the
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Maybe it could be just a matter of personal preference MD. It seems that you look at IRobot and KOTOR in the same sense that I look at neo-BSG.
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Oh no, I absolutely hate the I, Robot movie. That was just plain AWEFUL and WAY over-hyped. If the book had never existed, and they made the robot rebellion last longer, it might've been alot better.