Disgusting...

WarAdvocat · Post by **WarAdvocat** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 1:53 pm

You don't have to worry about me, betty. You barely register on my \"radar\". I rarely see you in games I join, and when I do you usually come in, die 4 times and leave.

Kilarin · Post by **Kilarin** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:13 pm

WarAdvocat wrote:you usually come in, die 4 times and leave.

Ah, Bettina is obviously a much better player than I am. I come in, die 28 times, take a deep breath and realize, my word, we've already been playing for 5 whole minutes! How time does fly!

WarAdvocat · Post by **WarAdvocat** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:11 pm

You play, Kilarin?

Never seen you

Kilarin · Post by **Kilarin** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:24 pm

You've probably seen me, My ship was spinning and smoke was coming out of it, so you couldn't see the name label.

Behemoth · Post by **Behemoth** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 6:25 pm

If i remember correctly she only has a problem with f-word AUDIO taunts and that ONLY because her dad could hear it from the other room, which is one reason i would slow down on the use of them in the case someone ELSE had a problem with them.

Since then i have turned them off because i cant always pay attention to the game if someone's taunt is so amazingly loud that i cannot hear if he is around the corner.

Bottom line.. Bett: Just try to be more reasonable about peoples usage of terms when they are typing, and if they do not respect you're wishes concerning taunts that just means THEY are either inconsiderate *******s or they are just immature either way.. be the bigger person.

Lothar · Post by **Lothar** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 9:43 pm

Iceman wrote:I am not one to normally use profanity but it it removes the gnat ... so be it.

I don't have a problem with chasing someone off if they're harassing you or causing problems like Bettina seems to have been in the first game... but from the way Bettina describes it, you kept looking for "the gnat" even after you'd chased her off from that game and she stopped saying anything.

If you want to chase her away from you when she's being annoying, or ban her from your servers, go for it. But harassing her and chasing her away from other people's servers when she's *not* being annoying? That's childish.

Bettina wrote:couple that with the grudge I still hold that the community got split up

The community has *always* been split up. This is just the latest episode, and the one with the most memorable drama. There's no reason to hold a grudge -- the new board didn't cause the split, it was a result of a split that's been here for a long time.

Bet51987 · Post by **Bet51987** » Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:22 pm

Just to clarify, he didn't chase me off of that game in question. I remained, but kept quiet after I was told to do so. My original comment in that game was something like \"support Koolbears dbb.net\". He was offended and I said I was sorry, that he was right, and stopped. It was the games that followed that he showed me what a good christian he is.

I just want to keep the story truthful.

Bettina

Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:28 am

Bet51987 wrote:I don't see vanilla and chocolate because I know why the other was formed.

Why do you think the other was formed?

WarAdvocat · Post by **WarAdvocat** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:05 am

Yeah, I wonder if someone told the subwaydancerite juvenile something I wasn't let in on?

Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:37 am

WarAdvocat wrote:Yeah, I wonder if someone told the subwaydancerite juvenile something I wasn't let in on?

Your attitude isn't helping, Chris. I just wanted to know why she thought people formed DBB.com.

Obviously, you know the real reason and so do I. I'm not trying to sarcastically imply that she knows more than we do. I just want to get her take on the events.

Kilarin · Post by **Kilarin** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:53 am

WarAdvocat wrote:I wonder if someone told the subwaydancerite juvenile something I wasn't let in on?

Why DO we tend to get upset about people liking different levels? It's not like they are forcing you to play them?

Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:07 am

Kilarin wrote:
WarAdvocat wrote:I wonder if someone told the subwaydancerite juvenile something I wasn't let in on?
Why DO we tend to get upset about people liking different levels? It's not like they are forcing you to play them?

Actually, they are. It's a complicated social structure that I've explained in the past. But it's also their choice to play the bad levels. They don't deserve to be persecuted for it.

Behemoth · Post by **Behemoth** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:25 am

A. The good players usually stick to levels that force you to bring out skills that make descent what it is, (Because descent 3 is as far from a REAL descent bad enough already)

B. Other players stick to ONE level and when the majority plays that level it discourages the A players from playing because no one makes them use the skills they have to make descent fun.

C. If the good players leave then the game eventually dies out and its no fun.

Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:33 am

That's a little simplified, but basically yeah. =)

WarAdvocat · Post by **WarAdvocat** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 11:05 am

Suncho wrote:I just wanted to know why she thought people formed DBB.com.

Me too!

I thought maybe she had some kind of theory about the evil moderator on the grassy knoll firing a magic DBB.COM bullet, myself.

Sorry for not helping.

Bet51987 · Post by **Bet51987** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:06 pm

Suncho wrote:
Bet51987 wrote:I don't see vanilla and chocolate because I know why the other was formed.
Why do you think the other was formed?

Suncho, I don't want to create another post about my interpretation of why the other dbb was created.
The person who started it all posted his reasons here...

viewtopic.php?t=9185

And I posted my interpretations here... in several places.

viewtopic.php?t=9267

And... How come you don't play. I enjoyed playing with you.

On the subject of games. I don't just play Subway Dancer. Everytime I logon to http://d3.descent.cx/tracker.d3 , there are only 4 or 5 levels being played at the most on any given night. The ones I see are VV, subway, stadium, skybox, halcyon, abend2, and Waltzing Matilda. The latter which I played last nite with Cope, Bunhemoth, and a few others who all owned me. I play all the games. Also, Its ok that people call me a subwaydancerite juvenile. I don't mind at all. I just don't like fwords fired at me because they know I'm 17.

I will play any civilized person....anytime..... even if I get beat up bad.

Bettina

Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:35 pm

Bet51987 wrote:Suncho, I don't want to create another post about my interpretation of why the other dbb was created.
The person who started it all posted his reasons here...

viewtopic.php?t=9185

Bill aka STRESSTEST was not the person who started it all. He provides the hosting for DBB.com. Those may be his reasons for agreeing to host the forums, but they aren't the reasons the forums were created nor do they reflect the rules by which the forums are run.

Bet51987 wrote:
And I posted my interpretations here... in several places.

viewtopic.php?t=9267

Wow. I think you have the wrong idea. Without flaming DBB.net, I think these are the main reasons why folks decided to create DBB.com:

1. There was a perception that replying to posts on the main page of a sparse forum should be considered necroposting.
2. There was a perception that silly threads with pointless posts such as "post #100 9 more to go" were running rampant.
3. There was a perception that the people who still play Descent weren't in charge of running the board, so they decided to go back to the roots and create a fresh DBB for actual Descent players.

I think both you and Pally got the wrong idea. It's not about "no censorship." It's about moderating intelligently and supporting the community of people who play Descent.

Bet51987 wrote: And... How come you don't play. I enjoyed playing with you.

I've been busy. =/

Bet51987 wrote:On the subject of games. I don't just play Subway Dancer.

Don't worry about it. I'm not blaming you. I'm not blaming anyone. It's just the way the game is and the way things change. It's great that you're having fun in other levels. Do what you enjoy. =)

Bet51987 · Post by **Bet51987** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:28 pm

Suncho wrote:
Bet51987 wrote:Suncho, I don't want to create another post about my interpretation of why the other dbb was created.
The person who started it all posted his reasons here...

viewtopic.php?t=9185
Bill aka STRESSTEST was not the person who started it all. He provides the hosting for DBB.com. Those may be his reasons for agreeing to host the forums, but they aren't the reasons the forums were created nor do they reflect the rules by which the forums are run.

Bet51987 wrote:
And I posted my interpretations here... in several places.

viewtopic.php?t=9267
Wow. I think you have the wrong idea. Without flaming DBB.net, I think these are the main reasons why folks decided to create DBB.com:

1. There was a perception that replying to posts on the main page of a sparse forum should be considered necroposting.
2. There was a perception that silly threads with pointless posts such as "post #100 9 more to go" were running rampant.
3. There was a perception that the people who still play Descent weren't in charge of running the board, so they decided to go back to the roots and create a fresh DBB for actual Descent players.

I think both you and Pally got the wrong idea. It's not about "no censorship." It's about moderating intelligently and supporting the community of people who play Descent.

Bet51987 wrote: And... How come you don't play. I enjoyed playing with you.
I've been busy. =/

Bet51987 wrote:On the subject of games. I don't just play Subway Dancer.
Don't worry about it. I'm not blaming you. I'm not blaming anyone. It's just the way the game is and the way things change. It's great that you're having fun in other levels. Do what you enjoy. =)

I don't know what to tell you. You asked me a question and I answered it. Stresstest made it perfectly clear in his post and no matter how I look at it, it still comes up the same. Anyway, the main point I was making was getting rid of a certain player.

Your ok with me as you have always been.

I just wish more good people like you would come and play.

Bettina

Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 4:15 pm

Bet51987 wrote:
I don't know what to tell you. You asked me a question and I answered it. Stresstest made it perfectly clear in his post and no matter how I look at it, it still comes up the same. Anyway, the main point I was making was getting rid of a certain player.

Your ok with me as you have always been. I just wish more good people like you would come and play.

Bettina

Thanks for answering my question. The reason I asked it was so I could help clarify the situation for you. =)

Also, I was wrong about something before. Stresstest doesn't actually host the site. He's been kind enough to provide us the domain name. He's a good guy. He just has some strong opinions about some certain things... as do you... and as do I.

Redbone · Post by **Redbone** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 4:29 pm

Bettina I watched this discussion and here's my take,the \"other\"DBB\" was formed because of KoolBears filtering of subject matter. I have known him online a long time. I personally have some things I don't care about with him but I'm sure he has the same amount with me.I have some offensive Taunts I've used since this game started.I do try not to use them when you or anyone I know is a kid in a game,BUT it is a hard habit to break hitting taunt buttons.My suggestion would be to turn off taunts unless its a \"nice\" game you see going. :Þ

Bet51987 · Post by **Bet51987** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:02 pm

Redbone wrote:Bettina I watched this discussion and here's my take,the "other"DBB" was formed because of KoolBears filtering of subject matter. I have known him online a long time. I personally have some things I don't care about with him but I'm sure he has the same amount with me.I have some offensive Taunts I've used since this game started.I do try not to use them when you or anyone I know is a kid in a game,BUT it is a hard habit to break hitting taunt buttons.My suggestion would be to turn off taunts unless its a "nice" game you see going. :Þ

I don't have a problem with you. Accidently pushing the wrong taunt button is one thing. Lowlifes that keep doing it to me on purpose is something entirely different.

If you text messaged me that you were going to use them in a game, I would respect it and leave for another. Thats called courtesy.

I hope you come and play. We need players.

Bettina

Jeff250 · Post by **Jeff250** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:11 pm

I don't think that it is fair to assume that a level is bad just because it doesn't require as much skill as another.

Kilarin · Post by **Kilarin** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:20 pm

Jeff250 wrote:I don't think that it is fair to assume that a level is bad just because it doesn't require as much skill as another.

I would go further than that and say some levels require a DIFFERENT skill.

Me, I have fun in Subway Dancer occasionally. But the primary kill mode is, obviously, secondaries. POWERFUL secondaries. Which means you have to play an entirely different way. I actually PREFER levels that require more dogfights. I think they require a subtler kind of skill. But Subway Dancer demonstrably requires skill since it is obviously a skill I haven't mastered.

Of course, I haven't mastered any OTHER style of D3 MP play yet either, so perhaps my opinion here is not very valid.

WarAdvocat · Post by **WarAdvocat** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:05 am

E&C is not the place to discuss Descent levels and skills. I will, however, say this: If you think it takes skill to get kills in Subway Dancer, you've got a long way to go

Kilarin · Post by **Kilarin** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:13 am

WarAdvocat wrote:E&C is not the place to discuss Descent levels and skills. ... you've got a long way to go

Both points conceded.

Behemoth · Post by **Behemoth** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:53 am

WarAdvocat wrote:E&C is not the place to discuss Descent levels and skills. I will, however, say this: If you think it takes skill to get kills in Subway Dancer, you've got a long way to go

word

Zuruck · Post by **Zuruck** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:59 am

I think the Cope and I used to get ★■◆● for playing horde in Brain Salad...but it was some of the funnest descent I ever played. Who cares where/how/what you play...enjoyment is enjoyment yes?

Bet51987 · Post by **Bet51987** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:06 pm

Zuruck wrote:I think the Cope and I used to get ***** for playing horde in Brain Salad...but it was some of the funnest descent I ever played. Who cares where/how/what you play...enjoyment is enjoyment yes?

Yes.

There are levels that I consider a lot of fun but not skill learning. I just like to have fun and I could care less about skill, although I admire those who have it. Cope may have got me big last time,

but all I need is one good shot to make me feel good.

Bettina

Behemoth · Post by **Behemoth** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 1:29 pm

That's right, this IS a game if you are not enjoying it then why even play?

Iceman · Post by **Iceman** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:43 pm

Bettina pardon me but you seem to be a little hot under the collar lately. Everything ok?

Lothar · Post by **Lothar** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 6:25 pm

Iceman, any thoughts on responding to my last post to you?

Bet51987 · Post by **Bet51987** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 6:47 pm

Iceman wrote:Bettina pardon me but you seem to be a little hot under the collar lately. Everything ok?

I'm fine, why don't you be nice and just play.

Bettina

Sapphire Wolf · Post by **Sapphire Wolf** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:08 pm

Uhh... Bettina, in the Bedlam server, I('ve) played against someone who is impersonating you.

Iceman · Post by **Iceman** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:16 pm

Lothar wrote:Iceman, any thoughts on responding to my last post to you?

With all due respect to you Lothar, I have no plans to participate in the discussion further.

KoolBear · Post by **KoolBear** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:34 pm

Redbone wrote:Bettina I watched this discussion and here's my take,the "other"DBB" was formed because of KoolBears filtering of subject matter.

LOFL, I edited on friggin post, one friggin post, blame me if you will but you are wrong, dead wrong. While I might have provided the catalsyt I was in no way filter anything.

And tell me, since you got me going, what have I actually changed since I've been here in how things were run or moderated?

I've asked Ferno and MD to tone it down. But what has actually changed? Man I love it when people have thier facts stright!

Call a GX a GL but don't pass bad stories about someone if you are clueless.

[/rant]

KB

Suncho · Post by **Suncho** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:57 pm

It wasn't Koolbear, guys. It was just a coincidence that the thing with Adam happened at the same time that they were getting ready to launch DBB.com. =)

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:11 am

This whole thing is crap.

WarAdvocat · Post by **WarAdvocat** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 7:23 am

Ferno wrote:This whole thing is crap.

/me points and laughs

Ferno · Post by **Ferno** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:11 pm

believe what you want.

Bet51987 · Post by **Bet51987** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:56 pm

Sapphire Wolf wrote:Uhh... Bettina, in the Bedlam server, I('ve) played against someone who is impersonating you.

Thats ok DF

If he swears or gets a really high score, people will know its not me.

Bettina

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