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I am so glad I wasn't the one pointing out that Woody completely made the argument for human causation.

woodchip wrote:...in the words of the space agency, it "looks like a deep freeze." (NASA Goddard MODIS Rapid Response Team)

I don't understand the point of your post. NASA just released a statement about the Jet Stream showing what is happening on the other side of the ridge.

Top Gun wrote:You mean TB doesn't even bother to stick around and read a thread, instead content to produce utterly-laughable drive-by bull★■◆●? What a shocking development!

Oh, and here's a real gem from woody's link:

Finally, if history is a guide, it is safe to say that weak solar activity for a prolonged period of time can have a negative impact on global temperatures in the troposphere which is the bottom-most layer of Earth’s atmosphere - and where we all live.

So if the Sun is indeed in an extended period of minimal activity, and yet we still continue to produce the highest temperatures on record, that's pretty much direct evidence that solar activity isn't the main driving force behind climate change. Thanks for shooting your own argument in the foot, buddy!

Have you overlooked the global warming charts have flat-lined? Come back in another 10 years and lets see what is going on.

vision wrote:

woodchip wrote:...in the words of the space agency, it "looks like a deep freeze." (NASA Goddard MODIS Rapid Response Team)

I don't understand the point of your post. NASA just released a statement about the Jet Stream showing what is happening on the other side of the ridge.

And who cares about out west when you wake up to -25 deg temps and the dog is peeing icicles.

still not grasping what GLOBAL warming does to LOCAL temperatures, huh?

Real global warming will begin when activated automatic control system "Периметр". So long as the United States did not make a big mistake, all of us do not need to worry about GW

callmeslick wrote:still not grasping what GLOBAL warming does to LOCAL temperatures, huh?

Yes but when the warmers were saying the Great Lakes were drying up due to Global Warming and now that their levels are getting higher than normal...is all due to warming. I guess when I see a mile high glacier out the back window that will be due to warming also. With you guys you can't win.

it's called reality, woody, and apparently you cannot win with that.....

Reality is the temp. rise has flat lined and mankind's dumping of pollutants has increased. Chew on that reality.

you can repeat your lie about temps flatlining a few more times and it will still be a lie. Why repeat it?

I suggest you take a look at the charts before you make another of your patented slickgasms.

look, you already proved human causation, above, for global warming. The arctic is warming this season, visibly(causing cold temps to the south, ironically). The plateau observation was proven wrong already. I ask again, why do you insist on repeating proven lies?

Show me where the flat line is a lie or are you having the vapors again?

sigma wrote:Real global warming will begin when activated automatic control system "Периметр". So long as the United States did not make a big mistake, all of us do not need to worry about GW

So is Putin ready to kill all of humanity over Ukraine?

woodchip wrote:Show me where the flat line is a lie or are you having the vapors again?

debunked over a year ago.
http://www.iflscience.com/environment/h ... aused-nope


seriously? You cling to a report that left out the Artic and all of Africa in the data examined?

ThunderBunny wrote:

sigma wrote:Real global warming will begin when activated automatic control system "Периметр". So long as the United States did not make a big mistake, all of us do not need to worry about GW

So is Putin ready to kill all of humanity over Ukraine?

It does not depend on Putin and other leaders. The system is configured in such a way that even if in Russia there will be no living person, the system will kill the aggressor without the participation of people. It's really a terrible thing. Sorry, but links to more detailed information, I can not give you.

callmeslick wrote:

woodchip wrote:Show me where the flat line is a lie or are you having the vapors again?

debunked over a year ago.
http://www.iflscience.com/environment/h ... aused-nope


seriously? You cling to a report that left out the Artic and all of Africa in the data examined?

Seriously, you cite a blog that links a source trying to explain away the flat line as incomplete data? Always something to shore up your claims.

woodchip wrote: Seriously, you cite a blog that links a source trying to explain away the flat line as incomplete data? Always something to shore up your claims.

It's been peer-reviewed, soldier. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... 7/abstract

And the GISS data is also bad I take it. Makes you wonder at the competency of the people collecting the data. Maybe TB OP was the reason why.

Fred Astaire would have been proud of Woody's dancing, there. Thanks, Ferno, you beat me to the punch. I sort of expected a finger-point at the source defense from Woody, before showing him the actual data.

Of course the warmers latch onto the newly manipulated data like it was there only date to the prom. However, looking at the GISS charts we see for mean global air temps you will notice a decided flat line starting around 200:

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v3/Fig.A2.gif

Or if you care to see the surface temps:

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v3/Fig.C.gif

Now tell me this is all bad data or incomplete.

around 200?

look, the bottom line is that you or I have NO WAY of knowing if there is a pause or not, there just isn't enough time to tell, yet. The fact still remains that Arctic Ice is disappearing, weather patterns are changing, sea levels are rising, and we have to address it, as a HUMAN RACE. The fact that some people don't wish to address, or even acknowledge the rise in temps, is pathetic. Even if your 'flat-line' guess turns out to be true, your so-called flat line is still rising, just at a slower rate. This isn't comforting.

woody is the same goon who declared an ice age in the 1940s, 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s every time the global temps declined a few degrees. I guess since the temps aren't dropping anymore the only thing left to do is tout a "pause." Have fun with that.

Sadly it was really people like vision who were spouting the Ice Age nonsense. I was too busy with Sex, Drugs and Rock'N Roll to care

nearing the end of february, when there should be a little snow on the ground and very low temperatures... it's hitting double digits and i'm walking around in a tee shirt.

It's just a cold Pacific Ocean...no worries:

http://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-bl ... f-warming/

Ferno wrote:nearing the end of february, when there should be a little snow on the ground and very low temperatures... it's hitting double digits and i'm walking around in a tee shirt.

In Mi this will be the coldest Feb on record.

Cool story bro. Rather than tout s brief pause, you might want to question why there hasn't been any significant colling in the last several decades. Go get to work on that. Oh wait, I already know the answer; the sun, right?

Spoke to someone in Georgie today who said they've been experiencing record cold weather.

and, that proves what, Thorne?

vision wrote:Cool story bro. Rather than tout s brief pause, you might want to question why there hasn't been any significant colling in the last several decades. Go get to work on that. Oh wait, I already know the answer; the sun, right?

Well this cycle has the fewest sun spots since the little ice age.

And yet, it is nowhere near as cold as the little ice age...What happens if/when the sun returns to normal activity?

and yet the temps still keep rising, albeit at a reduced rate. Once again, Woody, you either prove human causation or at least provide serious underpinnings for such a theory.

I wish our troubles were as petty as yours... If in Oregon or Minnesota frozen waterfall, it is perceived as a catastrophe, In Russia the temperature is below 40 degrees Celsius is the usual standard phenomenon. Believe me, a lot of people in Russia see in their dreams, that in Russia it would be a little warmer.


Abiqua Falls (Marion County, Oregon)



mostly in Russia

OMG OMG its all about Russia.

callmeslick wrote:and, that proves what, Thorne?

What did Ferno's remark prove?

He started the "its blank outside, so it must be global warming climate change". (by inference)

(no he didn't start it in the ultimate sense, just that sequence)

callmeslick wrote:and, that proves what, Thorne?

Well, I'll have to get one of my friends over at the New York Times working on an interpretation if I want that little tidbit to prove anything substantial. In the meantime it was just to sort of offset Ferno's local report.

Spidey wrote:

callmeslick wrote:and, that proves what, Thorne?

What did Ferno's remark prove?

He started the "its blank outside, so it must be global warming climate change". (by inference)

(no he didn't start it in the ultimate sense, just that sequence)

not quite. Climate change.

callmeslick wrote:and yet the temps still keep rising, albeit at a reduced rate. Once again, Woody, you either prove human causation or at least provide serious underpinnings for such a theory.

Temperature rise has flatlined no matter how much you think otherwise. And saying I have proved something by a simple statement shows why I think warmers like you are brain dead.

Krom wrote:And yet, it is nowhere near as cold as the little ice age...What happens if/when the sun returns to normal activity?

Might want to read the link to get a fuller story:

We are currently more than six years into Solar Cycle 24 and today the sun is virtually spotless despite the fact that we are still in what is considered to be its solar maximum phase. Solar cycle 24 began after an unusually deep solar minimum that lasted from 2007 to 2009 which included more spotless days on the sun compared to any minimum in almost a century.

http://vencoreweather.com/2015/02/17/29475/