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A way to raise mouse sensitivity on D1 running on old comp?
Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 6:43 am
by Mikael
I'm running Descent on an old P200 MMX with an SB AWE64. Gives the right old school feel, if you know what I mean.
Anyway, the mouse sensitivity is very low and I was wondering if there is any way to raise the sensitivity of the original version.
Mouse Speed
Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 5:37 pm
by Canuck
Hmm I remember CajunAce had a program that allowed this in D1 and D2... Stop by Rangers server on Kali and ask there.
http://www.descent-rangers.com/
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:21 pm
by Admiral LSD
Basically the problems comes about because Descent 1 & 2 tie the mouse sensitivity to the framerate. Once you start going beyond about 60-80fps the sensitivity takes a dive. The various source ports let you lock the framerate to a certain level so as to maintain a decent level of sensitivity but that doesn't really help if you're trying to \"preserve the old school feel\".
I've recently run into this problem again myself since I got fed up with DOSBox and set up a computer specifically for older games, Descent in particular and realising that even underclocking it to 75Mhz was just too fast to get decent mouse sensitivity. If you find that app Canuck is referring to would you mind posting a link to it here?
Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:34 pm
by Canuck
Found it, PS2rate;
http://www.uwe-sieber.de/util_e.html
Crank up the sampling speed.
Worked in 3DFX just great... nice and smooth too.
Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:20 am
by Duper
yea, I used Dos Drivers back then.
made the mouse scream. I could keep up with guys on a Sidewinder.
Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:28 pm
by Admiral LSD
PS2Rate doesn't seem to be having much effect here
Perhaps 200Mhz is just
too fast for even PS2Rate to compensate for. I still haven't completely ruled out the possibility that the video card may have something to do with my problem. It's an S3 ViRGE and while Descent 1 never had any ViRGE-specific optimisations the ViRGE was a fairly quick card in its day leading me to think it's what's boosting the framerate and thus causing the sensitivity issues. Unfortunately, I have nothing old and dodgy to swap it with and test that theory atm
Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:28 pm
by Canuck
Is your mouse on a PS2 port or USB?
Did you bump the mouse scan rate up to 200 HZ?
I tested on an 800 MHZ PIII, with an Microsoft optical on an USB to PS2 converter and it works very nicely at 60 hz in 3DFX Descent 2.
Try some of those other Dos drivers... many work on other brands.
Hope this helps.
Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:52 pm
by Admiral LSD
It's a PS/2 mouse and I'd already installed PS2Rate (and maxed it out) after being reminded at just how crappy the default PS/2 mouse rate is. It just doesn't seem to have had any effect. I also downloaded the MSMOUSE package from Microsoft and even after maxing out the sensitivity on that failed to have any effect on Descent (works a treat on Terminal Velocity though)