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Obsessive Compulsives ... Hoarding ... & Copyright refor

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:24 am
by roid
my original thought of the day is:

Could file sharing networks perhaps be largely fueled by OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder) suffers?

Hoarding is an OCD type behavior.
http://understanding_ocd.tripod.com/hoarding1_why.html
\"Simplified Hoarding is about the fear of throwing something away that you might need someday, of not being able to remember it perfectly or that if thrown away it will cause a problem or that something bad may happen.\"

This would make pro-copyright-reform politics FEAR based politics, like racism and homophobia!

ok who's mind did i just explode :)

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:27 am
by Shadowfury333
Apart from the OCD bit, this is pretty obvious.

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:14 pm
by Xamindar
roid wrote: Could file sharing networks perhaps be largely fueled by OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder) suffers?
Interesting thought.

But in my experience people who use p2p networks (my friends and I) do not hoard them. For example, if I hear of a new artist I may like, or have heard a song that I like from that artist, I will que up all the songs I can find from that artist. When they have downloaded I will play them and see if I like. If I do not like most of them I will delete them and not bother to download any others from that artist. I may have a couple songs that I like from a certain artist. Or whole albums of artists that I really like. In the latter case I usually own the albums as well because they are worth it.

Maybe I missed the point. But I don't think the majority of p2p using people can be classified as OC in any way.

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:25 pm
by Shadowfury333
Xamindar wrote:
roid wrote: Could file sharing networks perhaps be largely fueled by OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder) suffers?
Maybe I missed the point. But I don't think the majority of p2p using people can be classified as OC in any way.
I think that the OCD thing may be more relevant to the copyright lawyers and the companies who seek draconian copy protection measures.

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:40 pm
by Xamindar
Shadowfury333 wrote: I think that the OCD thing may be more relevant to the copyright lawyers and the companies who seek draconian copy protection measures.
So you are saying the lawyers will most likely use that as another reason for their cause?

I agree. I can totally see that happening. They have used so many ideas from the twilight zone already. :roll:

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:27 am
by roid
Xamindar wrote:
roid wrote: Could file sharing networks perhaps be largely fueled by OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder) suffers?
Interesting thought.

But in my experience people who use p2p networks (my friends and I) do not hoard them. For example, if I hear of a new artist I may like, or have heard a song that I like from that artist, I will que up all the songs I can find from that artist. When they have downloaded I will play them and see if I like. If I do not like most of them I will delete them and not bother to download any others from that artist. I may have a couple songs that I like from a certain artist. Or whole albums of artists that I really like. In the latter case I usually own the albums as well because they are worth it.

Maybe I missed the point. But I don't think the majority of p2p using people can be classified as OC in any way.
oh yes i agree, i think a majority of people who at some time use p2p networks would NOT fit an OCD profile. I'm talking about the "superusers", the people who make a real effort. I think without these superusers some of the major p2p networks would probabaly not function.

i don't think music oriented p2p networks are as effected as other networks, which i'll try to explain:
due to the small size of individual songs people cue to download, there is a relatively long time between the initial "cueing" of the song download - and that song being deleted (if it is not liked).
During this time period the song is able to be recursively completely downloaded by others as well, before you have a chance to delete it. So the nature of the songs being so small may influence music sharing p2p networks to run smoother - as songs are so small they tend to slip through the cracks anyway, they prettymuch share themselves without you needing to put much effort into the process at all.

But for Torrents, they are by rule of thumb much bigger. I think these 'networks' (loose term) dedicated to much larger files are primarily fueled along by people who are making a real effort to seed and reseed their collections.


this whole thing was just some introspection i was having about why i collect things (ie: have a habit of recording and keeping entire series of tv shows, seemingly for the reason of "having the complete set" much moreso than "coz i need to watch this show a few times"). i realised the main reason was to preserve their accessability, i was frightened that if i didn't take the opportunity to collect it when it was available - when next i wanted access to it i may not be able to get it!

i've noticed this urge to collect and catagorise in a lot of geeks. i mean, think of all the fan websites have you seen that are dedicated to meticulously complete lists: like lists of episodes. i can relate to that, you just have to get the information out there. i mean, what if someone ELSE was one day searching for "all of the ways to skin a cat", your website will save them a lot of trouble :lol:!

we rarely use the term 'eccentric' anymore. Eccentrics have been replaced with Geeks, but only the language has changed. There's still that imaginary line that society tries to draw between personality and pathology.