What? TunderBunny not posting a serious thread? Dear LORD!
And remember folks, the only people to be criticising the '72 virgins' thing are Christians. But that's only because the bible only mentions spending eternity with one virgin... I think they call her 'Mary'. Some people can get so jealous...
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:01 pm
by Lothar
TIGERassault wrote:the bible only mentions spending eternity with one virgin... I think they call her 'Mary'.
Uh, what? That came from left field.
The Bible never talks about Mary as being particularly special except for the whole "mother of Jesus / virgin birth" thing; she's never mentioned as eternally significant, though the Catholic church has some wacky traditions that suggest she is. Search the Bible for the name "Mary" -- aside from the familiar Gospel stories (Jesus' birth and childhood, Jesus saying "my mother and brothers are the ones who follow me" and therefore DENYING SIGNIFICANCE to Mary, the crucifixion, etc.), the name occurs twice in Acts and once in Romans, and only the first mention in Acts is of that particular Mary. There are also several mentions of Jesus' brothers -- so I seriously doubt Mary remained a virgin :P
The Bible does mention spending eternity with Jesus, who, as far as we know, is a virgin. And it speaks of "A Holy City... Jerusalem" as the bride of Christ. So I suppose the Islamikazes are at a +71 on us :P
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:35 pm
by Duper
and also, if you read closely, Jesus made it rather clear that that there will be neither sex nor marrage in heaven. Those are things exclusively for earth.
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:27 pm
by Testiculese
Wow, how dull that would be...Love and sex are the only good things in human existence.
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:02 pm
by Lothar
Duper wrote:if you read closely, Jesus made it rather clear that that there will be neither sex nor marrage in heaven.
I don't recall any comment about sex, only a comment about marriage. There may be an implication about sex there, but nothing is stated explicitly.
Some people had argued, essentially, that there couldn't be an afterlife because if a woman was widowed and remarried, she'd have multiple husbands in heaven. Jesus' response to them was "of course there's an afterlife, it just doesn't work like you think it does. Marriage doens't carry over like that; it's an entirely different experience."
Testi's comment about LOVE not carrying over, though, is totally incorrect. Probably the one thing all Christian sects can agree on is that heaven will be full of love -- love between people, love from people to God, and love from God to people. How exactly that plays out is a matter of great speculation (as we discussed back in April; see Foil's post and mine); the only thing we know for sure is that it's different.
As to the OP, the vid might be funny, except that it is tragically pathetic in the cluelessness of the two American slacker protagonists. Then again, maybe it really isn't that funny at all, all by itself.
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:30 am
by TIGERassault
Lothar wrote:The Bible does mention spending eternity with Jesus, who, as far as we know, is a virgin. And it speaks of "A Holy City... Jerusalem" as the bride of Christ. So I suppose the Islamikazes are at a +71 on us
Ah. So then there's the ultimate question about which religion is better:
Is having sex with Jesus better than having sex with 72 regular virgins?
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:02 am
by Foil
TIGERassault wrote:
Lothar wrote:The Bible does mention spending eternity with Jesus, who, as far as we know, is a virgin. And it speaks of "A Holy City... Jerusalem" as the bride of Christ. So I suppose the Islamikazes are at a +71 on us
Ah. So then there's the ultimate question about which religion is better:
Is having sex with Jesus better than having sex with 72 regular virgins?
Ummmm... Tiger, come back! You're well beyond "left field" now.
Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 11:00 am
by Grendel
There's an afterlife ? Well, we will see when we get there..
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:18 pm
by d3jake
Grendel wrote:There's an afterlife ? Well, we will see when we get there..
I'm with Grendel on this one...
Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:57 pm
by Zuruck
I'd rather pork 72 women that you know don't have the clap than one guy who can't handle a simple beating.
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:00 pm
by Jeff250
Grendel wrote:There's an afterlife ? Well, we will see when we get there..
I'll bet you 100 afterlife credits that an afterlife exists.