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Water Bottles!

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:18 am
by Dakatsu
Saw this on the news yesterday:
http://www.abcnews.go.com/WN/GoingGreen ... 812&page=1
I have been saying for years since... 2002... That water bottles are pointless.

Besides the whole \"Sucks for the enviroment\" issue, which is what I haven't been saying, what the hell is the point if you can get it for almost free from your water faucet? Granted, hurricane supplies are needed, but why else would you need to buy more bottled water after you drank your first - just fill it back up again!

Besides all that, it tastes like is has something in it...

Discuss?

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:43 am
by snoopy
They had a similar article on Newsweek. If you want to drink \"pure\" water, buy a filter. I think it's just plain old stupid to pay more for water than soda. Water should be dirt cheap.... a filter drives up the cost a bit, but not nearly as much as bottled water. If you absolutely must have water in bottles (such as being somewhere where there isn't water service and it's not practical to dig a well), then buy the big huge 5g reusable bottles, rather than single-serve disposable ones.

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:31 am
by Krom
Not to mention bottled water costs more per gallon then gasoline by a lot, its retarded to pay so much for something that covers 2/3 of the planets surface.

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:04 am
by Testiculese
If I'm on the road, I'll buy a big one, then refill it and leave it in the fridge for the next time I go out, and keep using it until I lose it or something. I currently have three of them in the fridge because I keep forgetting to take one when I leave...which is ok, because I wander the house with one...beats doing dishes just for a glass of water, and I drink a lot of water.

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:10 pm
by CDN_Merlin
Single bottled water costs more than gas but I buy 18L jugs for my water cooler at home and it costs $6.

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:56 pm
by Lothar
I don't buy the disposable bottles at all if I can help it. I have a nice 1-quart bottle that I keep refilling, either from the tap or from my filtered pitcher.

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:46 pm
by Ford Prefect
Up here in Vancouver BC, the home of Greenpeace, there was recorded in the minutes of one of the 70's meetings the comment.
\"If we are not careful one day we will all be drinking bottled water.\"
She was right and now we see bottle water everywhere.
This in a city whose water comes from lakes located in protected watersheds high in the mountains and which water regularly wins in \"best tasting civic water supply\" competitions.
I have a metered water supply in my house. I pay just over a dollar for a cubic meter of water. (1000 litres for you Yanks) If I buy a litre of water in the store it costs about a dollar or more. Does this make sense to anyone? Yet there is a huge market for bottled water here.
There is a wonderful hike you can take about 60 miles north of here. You go up into the mountains to a chain of lakes. (Joffre Lake Park) You are just at the tree line and on a warm summer day you can watch huge slabs of ice break off the glacier just above the uppermost lake. The melting ice runs through the rock scree slope into the lovely lake below. The lakes are full of the kind of water they sell in stores and what is the most common litter you see left on the trail? You guessed it, empty water bottles.
Morons, the world is full of morons.

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:50 pm
by Duper
My dad's house draws from a well that has too many heavy minerals to filter out. They go through the faucet filters rather quickly and a \"filtering system\" really isn't in their budget. they can cook with it and wash and all that stuff but straight drinking isn't a lot of fun, so they use bottled water.

ps. I'm sure Greenpeace members drink from bottled water. ;)

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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:08 am
by snoopy
Duper wrote:My dad's house draws from a well that has too many heavy minerals to filter out. They go through the faucet filters rather quickly and a "filtering system" really isn't in their budget. they can cook with it and wash and all that stuff but straight drinking isn't a lot of fun, so they use bottled water.

ps. I'm sure Greenpeace members drink from bottled water. ;)
Let me refer you to by first post... specifically the part about using the large, reusable 5 gallon bottled water, rather than the single-serve bottled water.

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:49 pm
by Blue
Bottled water is the biggest scam in marketing history. Someone actually convinced the populous something that falls from the sky for free is worth 1.25 a bottle, but ONLY if it is bottled, because the free version isn't good.

Sometimes i wonder how stupid humans can be...






I have pure water filter pitcher at home. I also have a METAL water bottle i use over and over.
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:08 pm
by Ferno
People buy bottled water because of the slick advertising.

'seven-way filtering', 'ionized', 'oxygen added', 'reverse osmosis', 'spring runoff'. All this adds up to is one thing. BS.

People don't care where it comes from. they only care because it makes them think they're better than others. Guess what foolios.. all that fancy stuff is just tapwater.

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:13 pm
by Testiculese
rofl, oxygen added

There's a reason the company is called Evian...

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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:13 pm
by dissent
Dakatsu wrote:Besides the whole "Sucks for the enviroment" issue, which is what I haven't been saying, what the hell is the point if you can get it for almost free from your water faucet?

Discuss?
Clearly, bottled water is a convenience. However, many places on earth don't have conveniently available faucets, and if they do, cannot always guarantee purified water to come out of them, as we have come to be able to expect in the developed world. Bottled water sells because it meets a need in the consumer marketplace. The health of the planet isn't spinning out of control because of polyethylene terephthalate. Here's some (old) data relating to all plastics.

Get a grip folks. And remember that the television news media is commercial, so they don't always shy away from hyping a story in order to boost ratings and hence increase their revenue by sale of commercial time. So get one side of any story ... and then later get another - and remember on occasion some stories are dodecahedrons.

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:13 pm
by TIGERassault
Well, there is the thing that bottled water is healthier for you than just regular filtered water. Buying a normal filter also removes a LOT of the stuff that's good for you, which professional water dispenserers make sure to keep.
...or, at least that's what it is over here anyway. The last time a company tried to get away with treated tap water, Dasani, it got horribly shot down!

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:08 pm
by Top Wop
Lots of people here feeling smug because they dont buy bottled water. :roll:

In some places, the rust and heavy minerals are so bad, that sometimes bottled water is the way to go if you want to drink. I should have taken a pic and posted how dirty our water filter was this morning. It was caked in a 2mm thick layer of rust, and thats only with a week and a half of usage. So yea, unless you want to be drinking funky-tasting water with all kinds of ★■◆● in it, bottled is the way to go.

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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:50 pm
by Krom
Top Wop wrote:Lots of people here feeling smug because they dont buy bottled water. :roll:

In some places, the rust and heavy minerals are so bad, that sometimes bottled water is the way to go if you want to drink. I should have taken a pic and posted how dirty our water filter was this morning. It was caked in a 2mm thick layer of rust, and thats only with a week and a half of usage. So yea, unless you want to be drinking funky-tasting water with all kinds of ***** in it, bottled is the way to go.
Funny I've been drinking very rusty/hard well water for 24 years and it hasn't bothered me yet...

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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:42 am
by Flabby Chick
Top Wop wrote:In some places, the rust and heavy minerals are so bad, that sometimes bottled water is the way to go if you want to drink.
Yes i thought that too but it seems 50% of bottled water consumption comes from Western Europe, 20% the US and only .2% Africa (ill post the link in a mo'.

I drink tap myself,sh1t loads of the stuff, it's clean, i've checked it at a lab (it's a part of my job)but i've no qualms about buying some if i'm on the road.

Maybe the emphasis should be upon the containers we put the water in, not the pillocks that drink it for snob value?

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:19 am
by Ferno
Clearly, bottled water is a convenience. However, many places on earth don't have conveniently available faucets, and if they do, cannot always guarantee purified water to come out of them, as we have come to be able to expect in the developed world. Bottled water sells because it meets a need in the consumer marketplace.
And where has bottled water sold most? In urban areas. people could get a brita pitcher if they really needed filtered water.

I sure don't see disaster ravaged places as hotbeds for brands such as Montclair.

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:43 am
by Ford Prefect
$85 a case of 12-375ml bottles.
http://www.finewaterimports.com/water.i ... nd-bc.html
Same water as is in Joffre Lakes where people carry up filtered tap water.

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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 7:30 am
by snoopy
Top Wop wrote:Lots of people here feeling smug because they dont buy bottled water. :roll:

In some places, the rust and heavy minerals are so bad, that sometimes bottled water is the way to go if you want to drink. I should have taken a pic and posted how dirty our water filter was this morning. It was caked in a 2mm thick layer of rust, and thats only with a week and a half of usage. So yea, unless you want to be drinking funky-tasting water with all kinds of ***** in it, bottled is the way to go.
Read my previous posts. Bad tap water doesn't mean your only choice is single serve bottles.

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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 12:49 pm
by Top Wop
snoopy wrote:
Top Wop wrote:Lots of people here feeling smug because they dont buy bottled water. :roll:

In some places, the rust and heavy minerals are so bad, that sometimes bottled water is the way to go if you want to drink. I should have taken a pic and posted how dirty our water filter was this morning. It was caked in a 2mm thick layer of rust, and thats only with a week and a half of usage. So yea, unless you want to be drinking funky-tasting water with all kinds of ***** in it, bottled is the way to go.
Read my previous posts. Bad tap water doesn't mean your only choice is single serve bottles.
We dont buy single served bottles, we buy bottles by the gallon for a dollar.

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:30 am
by MD-2389
Funny thing is, you can buy a gallon of water in a milk jug for 50 cents at wal-mart.

As for bottled water, theres only a couple brands that I'll even TOUCH. The industry is NOT regulated in the least. You may think its cleaner, but half the time its nastier than NYC tap water.



Watch and learn.

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:51 pm
by WillyP
Nice vid, I really liked the part about the hose... those diners really got hosed...

Years ago I drove a truck and once went to a place to pick up a couple pallats of water as a favor for a customer. They were filling the five gallon jugs from a hose... but at least it was a well out in the middle of nowhere. I see a lot of sources that sound nice but when you go there it's some little shithole industrial city.

Poland Springs makes such an issue about how protected their wellhead in Poland Springs, Maine is, but I've also seen their well head in Rochester, NH, and in Epping, NH... (IIRC) They look like any other industrial site. Except it was spotlessly clean.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:19 pm
by Kiran
I just buy a 24 pack of bottled water that's for $4-$5 and basically use one bottle per week or so. I dislike the \"old\" taste that builds up in the bottle so I just throw it away once it gets that taste.
Plus having a bottled water is very handy when you go places or even go to class. Its convenience is fantastic. Another great thing about the use of the bottle is for tracking how much water per day you drink. Besides, I'd rather buy a bottled water from the vending machine than to drink out of a water fountain that's used by hundreds of people a day. You don't know what that fountain has been through! :oops:

However, for some people to use bottled water once and throw it away is overrated and a waste. It's a good idea to use filtered water if some people are distrusting of tap water in a place. Filtered water is a great asset to the home (and apartment if you live in one).